Battery ‘Swell?
May 3, 2024 10:53:18 #
billnikon wrote:
There not supposed to swell.
But they do.
Lots do.
One type of failure mode.....
May 3, 2024 11:46:24 #
billnikon wrote:
Interesting, my OEM batteries have NEVER swelled. These batteries you say swell, are they OEM batteries? If so, what brand are they?
My Nikon and Sony batteries have NEVER swelled.
You may be doing every one here a favor by informing every one of the brand of battery that swells.
Thanks in advance. PLEASE.
My Nikon and Sony batteries have NEVER swelled.
You may be doing every one here a favor by informing every one of the brand of battery that swells.
Thanks in advance. PLEASE.
Naming whatever brand swelled up does NOT "do everyone here a favor". Its meaningless. Fact is, schidt happens.
The only batteries I ever had swell up are the OEMs. My many Wasabies have never done it. But should I then "do everyone here a favor" and warn you all against OEM batteries ?!?
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May 3, 2024 12:00:48 #
User ID wrote:
The only batteries I ever had swell up are the OEMs. My many Wasabies have never done it.
I had a third party swell...
One can't attach a "swelling problem" to a brand like he wants to do, as all brands have the propensity to do so.
Two reports of "one brand" is NOT sufficient statistically to roast a manufacturer.
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May 3, 2024 12:04:38 #
Longshadow wrote:
I had a third party swell...
One can't attach a "swelling problem" to a brand like he want to do as all brands have the propensity to do so.
Two reports of "one brand" is NOT sufficient statistically to roast a manufacturer.
One can't attach a "swelling problem" to a brand like he want to do as all brands have the propensity to do so.
Two reports of "one brand" is NOT sufficient statistically to roast a manufacturer.
Exactly. Have a nice day, and a swell time ;-)
Bring an umbrella and wear clean underwear.
May 3, 2024 12:05:12 #
User ID wrote:
Exactly. Have a nice day, and a swell time ;-)
May 3, 2024 12:10:21 #
I feel the same way—I only use OEM batteries.
May 3, 2024 12:15:27 #
User ID wrote:
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UHH has battery threads on a regular basis, heavily populated by phony experts, camera brand fanbois, and ignorant paranoids.
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May 3, 2024 13:13:28 #
delder
Loc: Maryland
hugEDhog wrote:
I had to use a long nose pliers to remove the batt... (show quote)
Batteries in modern electronics [including most cameras] are subject to parasitic drain supporting the Real Time Clock.
This GREATLY reduces the storage life while in the 📷 camera.
May 3, 2024 14:41:52 #
delder wrote:
Batteries in modern electronics [including most cameras] are subject to parasitic drain supporting the Real Time Clock.
This GREATLY reduces the storage life while in the 📷 camera.
This GREATLY reduces the storage life while in the 📷 camera.
At least 0.01%, possibly twice that. Beware !
The clock drain is so high that back when the clocks ran on a dedicated battery the clocks could kill their little coin sized battery in just about eight or nine years.
Had I mentioned earlier that UHHs quarterly battery threads are populated by paranoids, phony experts, etc ? I did ? Well, mercy me.
May 3, 2024 15:54:03 #
As a radio control model airplane nut for the last forty some years, batteries are as very important of our hobby. I have never seen a NiCd swell, but they will leak their components. Dangerous only if you try to eat them. LiPos are another animal! They will swell and that is not good. They are prone to catch fire spontaneously especially if they are over charged. Most RC'ers use special chargers that stop the charge when it reaches 100%. And we should never leave a battery on charge unattended. I had a friend have his house burn down when he left his battery on charge in his garage and it caught fire. And don't even drill a hole in a NiCd!!. I have a few NiCds that are slightly swollen, and I keep them in a steel Ammo can. but they are ready to be retired, before it's too late.
May 3, 2024 16:16:04 #
larryepage
Loc: North Texas area
RCJets wrote:
As a radio control model airplane nut for the last... (show quote)
RCJets is correct, but he is probably being a little bit too gentle with everyone.
NiCd batteries are vented and will vent (leak) if charged at too high a rate or to too high a level. They will also leak spontaneously when old...usually because the relief valve in the vent fatigues and fails. This material is very corrosive to contacts and wiring. NiMh batteries also leaked occasionally, but much more rarely. Seems that their design was better and more mature, and their chargers better controlled what went on between them and the battery.
Lithium and its compounds are very reactive. Elemental lithium will react spontaneously with air. Some of the compounds may, as well.These batteries are sealed and will not leak. They may swell and rupture, and if they do rupture, there is very likely to be a very energetic reaction with the air. A swelled battery is on the path to rupture, and it is dangerous to handle it. DO NOT EVER drill into a swelled lithium battery or grab it with pliers or similar tools. You could easily find yourself on fire.
I do not ask anyone to take my word on this. Do some reading about lithium and its compounds in a reliable reference source. Don't end up a charred pile of residue just to try to prove a point.
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May 3, 2024 16:25:01 #
User ID wrote:
At least 0.01%, possibly twice that. Beware !
The clock drain is so high that back when the clocks ran on a dedicated battery the clocks could kill their little coin sized battery in just about eight or nine years.
Had I mentioned earlier that UHHs quarterly battery threads are populated by paranoids, phony experts, etc ? I did ? Well, mercy me.
The clock drain is so high that back when the clocks ran on a dedicated battery the clocks could kill their little coin sized battery in just about eight or nine years.
Had I mentioned earlier that UHHs quarterly battery threads are populated by paranoids, phony experts, etc ? I did ? Well, mercy me.
I have a battery in a scale that is only 28 years old.
Someday it's gonna croak.
May 3, 2024 16:31:42 #
larryepage wrote:
... DO NOT EVER drill into a swelled lithium battery or grab it with pliers or similar tools. You could easily find yourself on fire.
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While I definitely agree on not drilling, which could rupture the internal battery chemical case if hit, however,
using long nose on the plastic case to remove the battery from a camera will NOT rupture the battery pack inside the case, UNLESS one is able to crush the case with the long nose pliers!
People gotta think and reason.....
Not just react.
May 3, 2024 16:40:54 #
delder wrote:
Batteries in modern electronics [including most cameras] are subject to parasitic drain supporting the Real Time Clock.
This GREATLY reduces the storage life while in the 📷 camera.
This GREATLY reduces the storage life while in the 📷 camera.
Yea, they only last a month or three in a dormant camera...... (Depending on the condition of the battery.)
I know, I leave my batteries in the cameras and check them every month, charging as necessary.
I suppose it depends on one's definition of "GREATLY'........
May 3, 2024 17:32:28 #
Longshadow wrote:
Yea, they only last a month or three in a dormant camera......
I suppose it depends on one's definition of "GREATLY'........
I suppose it depends on one's definition of "GREATLY'........
Uh huh.
It "GREATLY" depends on ones definition.
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