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May 1, 2024 07:25:25   #
Artcameraman Loc: Springfield NH
 
BebuLamar wrote:
My desktop computers have firewire. Newer computers don't have them any more.


Yes but they still work. Some of my studio cameras are firewire 600, I adapt to FW800 then to USB-A., still using all the old 35 foot cables and not noticeable delay between the time of capture till they pop up on the screen, do have Teather Tools 15 footers in use also but fould them to be too short and I'm constantly pulling the computer. Comments?

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May 1, 2024 08:07:49   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
BBurns wrote:
Jerry, pay close attention to the cable descriptions.
A 'Charging' cable may be just that. Those cannot pass data.
Make sure you get one that is capable of data transfer as well.


Yes! I didn't even want to mention that.

So, you have two cables that look identical, but they do different things. Great planning. All know is I have loads of different cables, and if I can plug them in, I plug them in. All charging cables should be red. Would that be so difficult?

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May 1, 2024 09:56:11   #
Artcameraman Loc: Springfield NH
 
Rever

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May 1, 2024 14:12:36   #
MoT Loc: Barrington, IL
 
There are plenty of adapters to go from USB-C to USB-A and vice versa.

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May 1, 2024 20:58:00   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
jerryc41 wrote:
When I got this Galaxy Fit 3 watch, I mentioned that the magnetic charging cable has a USB-C fitting on the end. I ordered a pair of USB-C chargers for it. Today, I saw that I could have ordered a pair of USB-Type A charging cables for less money. I didn't like the idea of having just one cable to charge the phone, so now I have three. Where is standardization when you need it?

I hope this doesn't become a new trend - USB-C charging cables.


USB-C is just a connector. The (not) fun starts when you realize that there are different LEVELS of USB-C cables that are required for certain devices. Using the wrong one can ruin your day.

Thunderbolt 4/USB4 cables with USB-C on both ends work with all current device standards. They're expensive, though!

Thunderbolt 3/USB4 cables work with everything but Thunderbolt 4. About the same price or a little less than TB4/USB4...

USB 3.2 cables with USB-C on both ends don't do USB4 or Thunderbolt 3 or 4. Much more affordable if you don't need more than 10 Mbps.

USB-C CHARGING cables don't move data, or move data so slowly you might as well not use them.

…and I've only scratched the surface.

If you have USB-C cables, MARK THEM so you know their purpose. It's very easy to limit the performance of an SSD by using the wrong cable. Just using a USB-A to USB-C adapter with an SSD and a USB 3.2 cable can cut its top speed in half.

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May 2, 2024 06:21:15   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
burkphoto wrote:
USB-C is just a connector. The (not) fun starts when you realize that there are different LEVELS of USB-C cables that are required for certain devices. Using the wrong one can ruin your day.

Thunderbolt 4/USB4 cables with USB-C on both ends work with all current device standards. They're expensive, though!

Thunderbolt 3/USB4 cables work with everything but Thunderbolt 4. About the same price or a little less than TB4/USB4...

USB 3.2 cables with USB-C on both ends don't do USB4 or Thunderbolt 3 or 4. Much more affordable if you don't need more than 10 Mbps.

USB-C CHARGING cables don't move data, or move data so slowly you might as well not use them.

…and I've only scratched the surface.

If you have USB-C cables, MARK THEM so you know their purpose. It's very easy to limit the performance of an SSD by using the wrong cable. Just using a USB-A to USB-C adapter with an SSD and a USB 3.2 cable can cut its top speed in half.
USB-C is just a connector. The (not) fun starts wh... (show quote)


Right, and there should have been some thought put into the design or color of those cables, even coloring the ends differently would have made identification easier.

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May 2, 2024 07:06:39   #
Artcameraman Loc: Springfield NH
 
burkphoto wrote:
USB-C is just a connector. The (not) fun starts when you realize that there are different LEVELS of USB-C cables that are required for certain devices. Using the wrong one can ruin your day.

Thunderbolt 4/USB4 cables with USB-C on both ends work with all current device standards. They're expensive, though!

Thunderbolt 3/USB4 cables work with everything but Thunderbolt 4. About the same price or a little less than TB4/USB4...

USB 3.2 cables with USB-C on both ends don't do USB4 or Thunderbolt 3 or 4. Much more affordable if you don't need more than 10 Mbps.

USB-C CHARGING cables don't move data, or move data so slowly you might as well not use them.

…and I've only scratched the surface.

If you have USB-C cables, MARK THEM so you know their purpose. It's very easy to limit the performance of an SSD by using the wrong cable. Just using a USB-A to USB-C adapter with an SSD and a USB 3.2 cable can cut its top speed in half.
USB-C is just a connector. The (not) fun starts wh... (show quote)


I have been accused of not knowing what I am talking about, and this may be just that. I still use SCSI on some devices and Firewire 600/800 on others. No, not to be different, I believe in using what I have. I pride myself on having a great sense of humor.

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May 2, 2024 07:29:09   #
BebuLamar
 
Artcameraman wrote:
I have been accused of not knowing what I am talking about, and this may be just that. I still use SCSI on some devices and Firewire 600/800 on others. No, not to be different, I believe in using what I have. I pride myself on having a great sense of humor.


I still have a desktop that has both firewire 800 and Ultra SCSI 320.

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May 2, 2024 07:41:05   #
Artcameraman Loc: Springfield NH
 
BebuLamar wrote:
I still have a desktop that has both firewire 800 and Ultra SCSI 320.


Yes, me also. I have a film recorder, most people don't even know what they are, I scan digital files to film in 35mm, 6X6, 6X7 and 4X5" format, also SCSI scanners from film to digital, reverse of what was mentioned previously. I use studio view cameras in the field with scanning backs and film backs. With most of my contemporaries are gone or in nursing homes i can sit back and say someone will have to figure out what all this crap is wand what to do with it.
Cheers from New Hampshire.

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May 2, 2024 08:15:10   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
USB charging cables -
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=usb+charging+cables&crid=3093WA7SQXN6&sprefix=usb+charging+cables%2Caps%2C89&ref=nb_sb_noss_1

USB data cables -
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=usb+data+cables&crid=11CWH0FBMMI0F&sprefix=usb+data+cables%2Caps%2C83&ref=nb_sb_noss_1

They should sell a "Cable Pack." It would contain about a hundred basic cables, covering most situations. Then they would have the "Cable Pack Pro" kit, and that would include all the cables you would ever need, probably about two hundred. 😂

Of course, you could sign up for the subscription plan, so you would get the new cables as they were introduced.

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May 2, 2024 08:21:58   #
BebuLamar
 
jerryc41 wrote:
USB charging cables -
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=usb+charging+cables&crid=3093WA7SQXN6&sprefix=usb+charging+cables%2Caps%2C89&ref=nb_sb_noss_1

USB data cables -
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=usb+data+cables&crid=11CWH0FBMMI0F&sprefix=usb+data+cables%2Caps%2C83&ref=nb_sb_noss_1

They should sell a "Cable Pack." It would contain about a hundred basic cables, covering most situations. Then they would have the "Cable Pack Pro" kit, and that would include all the cables you would ever need, probably about two hundred. 😂

Of course, you could sign up for the subscription plan, so you would get the new cables as they were introduced.
USB charging cables - br https://www.amazon.com/s?... (show quote)


But you can use 1 good data cable for all applications. Charging and all.

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May 2, 2024 08:31:49   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
BebuLamar wrote:
But you can use 1 good data cable for all applications. Charging and all.


If the connectors fit, I use it.

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May 2, 2024 09:40:41   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Artcameraman wrote:
I have been accused of not knowing what I am talking about, and this may be just that. I still use SCSI on some devices and Firewire 600/800 on others. No, not to be different, I believe in using what I have. I pride myself on having a great sense of humor.


I get it. That stuff still works if you take care of it. But I do hope you keep it off the Internet, unless it's running a recent operating system.

I have a 1999 PowerMac G4, fully tricked out with an accelerated processor, maximum 2 GB RAM, 500 GB drive, USB 2.0, SCSI, DVD burner, etc. — It once ran a UMAX scanner via SCSI and we only keep it for compatibility with PageMaker 6 files. Networking is disabled. We also have a couple of old PCs for similar uses. When we move, they're getting recycled after I drill holes through the hard drives.

I have a couple of old camcorders with FireWire 800 output, so I keep a Mac mini from 2010 around to transfer DV files from them. We have a big box of Hi-8 and DV tapes from our kids' childhood. I keep thinking I'll digitize them and put them on YouTube on my private account for the family.

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May 2, 2024 12:45:18   #
Desert Gecko Loc: desert southwest, USA
 
jerryc41 wrote:
When I got this Galaxy Fit 3 watch, I mentioned that the magnetic charging cable has a USB-C fitting on the end. I ordered a pair of USB-C chargers for it. Today, I saw that I could have ordered a pair of USB-Type A charging cables for less money. I didn't like the idea of having just one cable to charge the phone, so now I have three. Where is standardization when you need it?

I hope this doesn't become a new trend - USB-C charging cables.

USB-C is the trend, Jerry, and for good reasons: the connector is much smaller than USB-A, so eventual ubiquity is assured; it's capable of higher wattage (240W compared to USB-A's 18W); it's more durable than USB-A and, especially, USB-Micro; and it has no upside-down.

I buy only USB-C to USB-C cables now, have for about a year. But while I wait for everything to change over, I still have USB-A and even USB-Micro, so I adapt the cables where needed. Just yesterday I ordered a handful of USB-A to USB-C adapters: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CZL3N85H?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details

I should note that USB-C is a connector, not a speed. USB-C cables might allow the supply of only 5W, or they might allow 240W. Similarly, for data, they might allow 20Gbps on a USB 3.0 Gen 2x2, or just 5Gbps on a USB 3.0.

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May 2, 2024 17:54:59   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Desert Gecko wrote:
USB-C is the trend, Jerry, and for good reasons: the connector is much smaller than USB-A, so eventual ubiquity is assured; it's capable of higher wattage (240W compared to USB-A's 18W); it's more durable than USB-A and, especially, USB-Micro; and it has no upside-down.

I buy only USB-C to USB-C cables now, have for about a year. But while I wait for everything to change over, I still have USB-A and even USB-Micro, so I adapt the cables where needed. Just yesterday I ordered a handful of USB-A to USB-C adapters: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CZL3N85H?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details

I should note that USB-C is a connector, not a speed. USB-C cables might allow the supply of only 5W, or they might allow 240W. Similarly, for data, they might allow 20Gbps on a USB 3.0 Gen 2x2, or just 5Gbps on a USB 3.0.
USB-C i b is /b /i the trend, Jerry, and for g... (show quote)


My watch is the only device that came with a C charger end. I bought a pair of cables with A connectors on the ends.

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