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Apr 29, 2024 10:00:13   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
FrumCA wrote:
If YOU believe a lie and refuse to accept documented evidence of same, it's hardly worthwhile wasting time discussing it.


It all depends on where you got your so-called documented evidence from.

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Apr 29, 2024 12:01:54   #
FrumCA
 
Triple G wrote:
As of yet, you haven't proven it a lie. It's been proven that trump solicited Russia's help, trump Jr. took a meeting to get help from Russia, FBI confirmed Russia helped trump and worked to hurt Clinton, there are meetings by Giuliani with Russians on trumps behalf, and met with Russians on trumps behalf. Mueller confirmed activity with trump campaign. I sure hope, as the article stated, that the 2020 Election interference case also answers all the lingering questions left from 2016 that are so far unanswered by a judicial court. It sure presents a trump MO.
As of yet, you haven't proven it a lie. It's been... (show quote)

I don't need to prove it's a lie. The issue has been beaten to death and is hardly worth tossing grenades back and forth over. The Senate Intelligence Committee found no collusion between Russia and the Trump. That's good enough for me.

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Apr 29, 2024 12:05:30   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
FrumCA wrote:
I don't need to prove it's a lie. The issue has been beaten to death and is hardly worth tossing grenades back and forth over. The Senate Intelligence Committee found no collusion between Russia and the Trump. That's good enough for me.


Mueller also found no Americans including Trump that knowingly colluded with Russia. Zilch none that’s why no American was ever charged for it.

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Apr 29, 2024 12:10:00   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
Racmanaz wrote:
Mueller also found no Americans including Trump that knowingly colluded with Russia. Zilch none that’s why no American was ever charged for it.


Trump certainly did collude with Russia, the truth will come out eventually.

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Apr 29, 2024 13:07:51   #
Triple G
 
FrumCA wrote:
I don't need to prove it's a lie. The issue has been beaten to death and is hardly worth tossing grenades back and forth over. The Senate Intelligence Committee found no collusion between Russia and the Trump. That's good enough for me.


Good for you. It's not enough for me. We have our "partisan interpretations". I believe if the parties were reversed, you'd feel the same as I do.

Here are the committee's findings. There are many unanswered questions. I can understand why you just want the questions to stop.

"The report purposely does not come to a final conclusion, as Mueller did and as the House intelligence committee’s 2018 report did, about whether there is sufficient evidence that Trump’s campaign coordinated with Russia to sway the election to him and away from Clinton, leaving its findings open to partisan interpretation."

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/senate-panel-finds-russia-interfered-in-the-2016-us-election

https://www.newsweek.com/durham-report-trump-exonerated-russia-fbi-2016-election-1800527#

With these conclusions, I have just as much of a basis to call you a liar as you do me. Which is none.

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Apr 29, 2024 14:16:47   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
Kraken wrote:
Trump certainly did collude with Russia, the truth will come out eventually.


lol ya, please hold your breath till then.

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Apr 29, 2024 14:57:18   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
Racmanaz wrote:
Mueller also found no Americans including Trump that knowingly colluded with Russia. Zilch none that’s why no American was ever charged for it.


Fine that does not say Russia did not interfere in the election does it .
Read the executive summary for vol 1

https://www.justice.gov/archives/sco/file/1373816/dl

https://www.justice.gov/archives/sco/file/1373816/dl

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Apr 29, 2024 15:41:37   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
DennyT wrote:
Fine that does not say Russia did not interfere in the election does it .
Read the executive summary for vol 1

https://www.justice.gov/archives/sco/file/1373816/dl

https://www.justice.gov/archives/sco/file/1373816/dl


My goodness you far lefty cultists are freaking illiterates. Never once did I deny that Russia tried to interfere with our elections, I actually posted that multiple times.

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Apr 29, 2024 15:49:17   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
Racmanaz wrote:
My goodness you far lefty cultists are freaking illiterates. Never once did I deny that Russia tried to interfere with our elections, I actually posted that multiple times.


You post everything multiple times, it's gotten to

the point where no one reads your crap anymore.

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Apr 29, 2024 16:07:36   #
FrumCA
 
Triple G wrote:
Good for you. It's not enough for me. We have our "partisan interpretations". I believe if the parties were reversed, you'd feel the same as I do.

Here are the committee's findings. There are many unanswered questions. I can understand why you just want the questions to stop.

"The report purposely does not come to a final conclusion, as Mueller did and as the House intelligence committee’s 2018 report did, about whether there is sufficient evidence that Trump’s campaign coordinated with Russia to sway the election to him and away from Clinton, leaving its findings open to partisan interpretation."

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/senate-panel-finds-russia-interfered-in-the-2016-us-election

https://www.newsweek.com/durham-report-trump-exonerated-russia-fbi-2016-election-1800527#

With these conclusions, I have just as much of a basis to call you a liar as you do me. Which is none.
Good for you. It's not enough for me. We have ou... (show quote)

That's fine. I'll rely on official reports, not media opinions. Carry on.

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Apr 29, 2024 16:25:14   #
Triple G
 
FrumCA wrote:
That's fine. I'll rely on official reports, not media opinions. Carry on.


I will. Hope you do too. Highlight the paragraphs in the posted official records that say Trump has been exonerated. I read the full report. Did you? Or are you relying on a report from right media?


https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/documents/report_volume5.pdf
https://rollcall.com/2020/08/18/senate-intelligence-committee-russian-interference-2016-election-report/

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Apr 29, 2024 16:58:15   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
Racmanaz wrote:
My goodness you far lefty cultists are freaking illiterates. Never once did I deny that Russia tried to interfere with our elections, I actually posted that multiple times.


Where did I say otherwise ?

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Apr 29, 2024 17:44:04   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
Racmanaz wrote:
My goodness you far lefty cultists are freaking illiterates. Never once did I deny that Russia tried to interfere with our elections, I actually posted that multiple times.


Putin told Trump "very powerfully" at 2018 Helsinki ... "It was the Ukrainians! It's always the Ukrainians!" Wadda you reckon MAGA? That's what Trump sez too.

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Apr 29, 2024 18:08:39   #
FrumCA
 
Triple G wrote:
I will. Hope you do too. Highlight the paragraphs in the posted official records that say Trump has been exonerated. I read the full report. Did you? Or are you relying on a report from right media?


https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/documents/report_volume5.pdf
https://rollcall.com/2020/08/18/senate-intelligence-committee-russian-interference-2016-election-report/

Where did I say Trump was exonerated? Nice attemped seque to alter the point of the conversation.

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Apr 29, 2024 18:58:40   #
Triple G
 
FrumCA wrote:
Where did I say Trump was exonerated? Nice attemped seque to alter the point of the conversation.


That's been the point. You and Rac believe Russian involvement on trump's behalf and with his knowledge or direction is a lie. It is not; it's left open. Let's hope for definitive answers in our lifetimes.

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