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Apr 29, 2024 08:11:54   #
photon-collector Loc: Tampa Bay Area, Florida
 
" A computer cannot think, it is just a series of 0's and 1's, created by some human, with a myriad of IF-THEN-ELSE logic. A computer cannot have emotions. When an AI deliverer want his program to react in a certain way, he programs it that way...it is a reflection of the developer. Such it is with AI that has permeated the world today."

Say it isn't so! I believe HAL 9000 (Heuristically programmed ALgorithmic computer) proves you wrong.

https://youtu.be/Wy4EfdnMZ5g

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Apr 29, 2024 08:34:07   #
armymsg
 
AI is just a fancy term for software.

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Apr 29, 2024 08:35:57   #
tcthome Loc: NJ
 
Barre wrote:
AI humor...or truth?



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Apr 29, 2024 08:58:32   #
radiojohn
 
AI is marketing crack. So much like "cyber" and of course "E." Maybe even "turbo."

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Apr 29, 2024 09:23:41   #
Carl S
 
I have always felt that natural stupidity will trump artificial intelligence every time!

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Apr 29, 2024 09:50:17   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
Barre wrote:
AI humor...or truth?


I like and agree with that idea.

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Apr 29, 2024 11:43:06   #
yvesfeder Loc: Bath, ME
 
bobbyjohn wrote:
While AI is an interesting technology in the world of photos, videos, search engines, advertising, etc. etc., and with a myriad of legal and ethical concerns, it is my belief that there is NO SUCH THING as Artificial Intelligence.

I have used AI to produce strange and weird images, and will likely continue to do so...because it's fun!

Before retirement, I was in the IT field for many decades, and back even in the 2000's, the term and delivery of AI was in its infancy. It was the belief then, as now, that AI is produced by humans, humans writing computer programs, and as such takes on the characteristics and leanings of its authors/developers. A computer cannot think, it is just a series of 0's and 1's, created by some human, with a myriad of IF-THEN-ELSE logic. A computer cannot have emotions. When an AI deliverer want his program to react in a certain way, he programs it that way...it is a reflection of the developer. Such it is with AI that has permeated the world today.

While the term and delivery of AI is here to stay, we should always remember that in using AI, we are catering to the whims of the developer(s). We should not assign "intelligence" to a machine that can have no intelligence.
While AI is an interesting technology in the world... (show quote)


"I'M SORRY DAVE, BUT I CANNOT ACCEPT THAT" :)

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Apr 29, 2024 11:45:54   #
andesbill
 
bobbyjohn wrote:
While AI is an interesting technology in the world of photos, videos, search engines, advertising, etc. etc., and with a myriad of legal and ethical concerns, it is my belief that there is NO SUCH THING as Artificial Intelligence.

I have used AI to produce strange and weird images, and will likely continue to do so...because it's fun!

Before retirement, I was in the IT field for many decades, and back even in the 2000's, the term and delivery of AI was in its infancy. It was the belief then, as now, that AI is produced by humans, humans writing computer programs, and as such takes on the characteristics and leanings of its authors/developers. A computer cannot think, it is just a series of 0's and 1's, created by some human, with a myriad of IF-THEN-ELSE logic. A computer cannot have emotions. When an AI deliverer want his program to react in a certain way, he programs it that way...it is a reflection of the developer. Such it is with AI that has permeated the world today.

While the term and delivery of AI is here to stay, we should always remember that in using AI, we are catering to the whims of the developer(s). We should not assign "intelligence" to a machine that can have no intelligence.
While AI is an interesting technology in the world... (show quote)


The latest AI programs like Chat GPT are doing things that even the pro gamers don’t understand how the answer came about.

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Apr 29, 2024 12:27:13   #
lenben Loc: Seattle
 
Canisdirus wrote:
I believe there is a bias for humans when regarding a computer.

Can an Octopus think? Most folks would say yes.
A computer can match an octopus...yet...we don't want to give it the same regard as the Octopus.

The computer Eugene seems to have passed the Turing test...and if it doesn't...other will soon enough.
The advancement of computers is not linear...computers will surpass us at some point.


Computers with AI will always exceed us in repetitive tasks or those requiring large data bases (Watson on Jeopardy for instance)- But the only way to develop creativity is to put in some sort of random generator with a testing program- but that will be random and very unlikely to create anything new.

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Apr 29, 2024 12:28:04   #
jimkolt Loc: Sun City, AZ
 
Sounds like reality to me!

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Apr 29, 2024 12:40:40   #
bwana Loc: Bergen, Alberta, Canada
 
Canisdirus wrote:
I believe there is a bias for humans when regarding a computer.

Can an Octopus think? Most folks would say yes.
A computer can match an octopus...yet...we don't want to give it the same regard as the Octopus.

The computer Eugene seems to have passed the Turing test...and if it doesn't...other will soon enough.
The advancement of computers is not linear...computers will surpass us at some point.



As you say, "computers will surpass us at some point". The real question is "What happens after this point?".

bwa

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Apr 29, 2024 12:48:12   #
lenben Loc: Seattle
 
There is an Arthur Clark short story in which a satellite with memory chip is launched successfully. After a few moments all contact with all satellites is lost. The reason, the last launch completed enough memory for the satellites to function independently as a brain and no longer needed human input.

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Apr 29, 2024 12:55:57   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
lenben wrote:
There is an Arthur Clark short story in which a satellite with memory chip is launched successfully. After a few moments all contact with all satellites is lost. The reason, the last launch completed enough memory for the satellites to function independently as a brain and no longer needed human input.


I am of the opinion that a brain is much more than just memory.

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Apr 29, 2024 13:02:50   #
lenben Loc: Seattle
 
I agree - the brain is complex beyond current understanding. For instance consider the letter "A". Where is it found in the brain? How is it coded-chemical? electrical? We don't have a clue about this simple fact let alone the more complex aspects of brain function including the brain's supervision of continuous activity in the body like heart beating, lung function, intestinal activity, etc. It is way beyond our current knowledge.

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Apr 29, 2024 13:08:30   #
Canisdirus
 
lenben wrote:
Computers with AI will always exceed us in repetitive tasks or those requiring large data bases (Watson on Jeopardy for instance)- But the only way to develop creativity is to put in some sort of random generator with a testing program- but that will be random and very unlikely to create anything new.


I suggest you look up the computer called Eugene...doing a heck of a lot more than repetetive tasking.

They are starting to learn on their own now.

Just like toddlers...they get instructions from their parents...but at some point...they create their own.

Same thing is happening with computers...and especially quantum computers.

They are...growing up.

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