They'd get arrested just as the those who are chanting pro-Hamas lines. Terrorism is terrorism.

But, that is not the core group who have been protesting the war since October and wanting some transparency of funding from pro-Israeli sources. Their requests have gone nowhere so peaceful protests and exercising free speech is their next step. There are bad actors among them as pro-Hamas and antisemitic. Were back to the Charlotte and BLM protests where a broad brush is used for a few.

They do not have clean hands in the court of puvlic oppinion, but each time their is a co flict Israel does not start it. The court of public oppinion does not appear to believe that Israel should have the right to defend themselves.

As to surgical strikes or not I bekieve that is their intent. You and I bith know that Hamas hides among civilians so if you try to attack Hamas you get civilians. No one in their right mind should take the Palestinian Authority's word for anything. They are proven liars. Look at the hospital they hit with their own rocket and tried to blame Israel for. Israel has made many mistakes, but defending themswlves aggressively is not one of them.

You are correct that we see things very differently. I understand that you have gone back and looked at some of the history, which most who are condemning Israel have not, and I appreciate that.

Unfortunately I think that in many cases you are looking at the wrong articles and are not going back far enough.

You have cited the Oslo Accords more than once and yes the PLO finally accepted Israels right to exist and then the Palestinians chose an even more radical government. The only Palestinians I really feel sorry for are the small group of Palestinian Christians that have been persecuted by Hamas and now have to endure the attack from Israel as well. If the Palestinians don't want women and children to die all they have to do is stop hiding within the general populace and return the hostages. If they do that Israel will finish destroying all the tunnels and leave. Thats on them.

Agree, but college students are vehemently opposed to war and injustices of rights. It's difficult to know how much is organic activism and ideology and I want to be part of something important.

I find that watching and reading AP, Reuters, and non-editorial news from WSJ, NYTimes, Chicago Tribune I get a pretty straight up reporting. I then watch CNN and Fox to get both slants to check my own opinion. Checking in on BBC and Al Jazeera is useful too. I then dig deeper into the source primary documents for confirmation of facts.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

Where does the first amendment guarantee the right to block roadways, take over private college campuses, disrupt commerce, protest at private residences, the list goes on and on as to what some people think that the first grants them the right to do.... The first guarantees your right to your voice, it does not guarantee any right to do these other acts.

The fascists are still with us ... who knew?

The Republicans Who Want American Carnage
Calls for the National Guard to stop campus protests are not about safety.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/04/columbia-national-guard-tom-cotton/678163/

" ... Tom Cotton has never seen a left-wing protest he didn’t want crushed at gunpoint.

On Monday, the Arkansas senator demanded that President Joe Biden send in the National Guard to clear out the student protests at Columbia University against the Israel-Hamas war, which he described as “the nascent pogroms at Columbia.” Last week, Cotton posted on X, “I encourage people who get stuck behind the pro-Hamas mobs blocking traffic: take matters into your own hands. It’s time to put an end to this nonsense.” He later deleted the post and reworded it so that it did not sound quite so explicitly like a demand for aspiring vigilantes to lynch protesters.

This is a long-standing pattern for Cotton, who enjoys issuing calls for violence that linger on the edge of plausible deniability when it comes to which groups, exactly, are appropriate targets for lethal force. During the George Floyd protests of 2020, Cotton demanded that the U.S. military be sent in with orders to give “no quarter for insurrectionists, anarchists, rioters, and looters,” insisting unconvincingly in a later New York Times op-ed that he was not conflating peaceful protesters with rioters. Senator Josh Hawley of Missouri, who had raised a fist in apparent solidarity with the mob that assaulted the Capitol on January 6 before fleeing through the halls to avoid them once the riot began, echoed Cotton’s call for deploying the National Guard to Columbia. (Both men, as it turns out, are in favor of some quarter for “insurrectionists” who happen to be on the right side.) ... "

The right to assembly is a guaranteed right. Can it be infringed by university, local, state, and federal laws? Yes, just like gun ownership rights, freedom of speech, freedom to vote, etc. I still believe that the history of our nation favors right to assembly on college campuses subject to the laws governing them.


https://www.thefire.org/news/heres-what-students-need-know-about-protesting-campus-right-now

"The ability to distinguish between peaceful protest, civil disobedience, and genuine misconduct is as important now as ever."

https://www.alestlelive.com/news/article_827d47da-f787-11ee-9cd6-f3862e6076ae.html#:~:text=Freedom%20of%20assembly%20on%20college,safety%20of%20the%20campus%20community.