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Apr 27, 2024 11:11:26   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
Racmanaz wrote:
Why are you projecting your lies on everybody else?


Why are you projecting your lies on everybody else unless

it's for the money Putin is paying you?

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Apr 27, 2024 11:13:10   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
Kraken wrote:
Why are you projecting your lies on everybody else unless

it's for the money Putin is paying you?


You’re so childish

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Apr 27, 2024 11:27:23   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Racmanaz wrote:
You sure ShutterMouth is a “He”?


No I am not sure of anything about the Left except they are doing their best to destroy America and take away rights granted to us by the Constitution if they can.

A 1930's Germany scenario is playing out right here in America now with Jews once again being the Fall Guys and the Left is going right along with it. Palestinian HAMAS terrorists attack and murder 1300 Jewish civilians in their own homes and take hundreds of prisoners, some still kept as prisoners. The Left supports every bit of it and tries to get Israel to stop attacking Palestine while HAMAS still holds prisoners. Biden does NOTHING to back up American Jews nor does he seriously back up Israel.

Dennis

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Apr 27, 2024 20:10:06   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
You can't keep ignoring trump's ineptitude at handling the Pandemic in order to paint him in a favorable light.


As President Trump is not an MD and most especially not a Virologist he was following the advice of the government and other "experts", like Fauci and the CDC among others.
They were the ones who didn't quite figure out what to do.

Then there is the nature of the American People. We don't like being told what to do by"experts" or politicians. We don't like to be restricted in our movements and we are probably the most mobile nation on Earth. We are constantly on the move for work, shopping, just for fun and more Americans both numerically and % wise move addresses per year than anyone else. Not only that, but we also like to congregate for meeting, movies, sports etc. etc.
All of which tends to negate the anti-COVID measures if people were following them in the first place. Hell we even had door to door sales people coming around during COVID - we put a sign on our front door stating we would not be answering the door.

As to our large numbers of deaths during COVID, well take all the above and combine it with our nearly 340million (#3 behind China and India) population and our nearly 100% coverage of statistics and it is no wonder our reported deaths were so high.* China I am at least 99% certain did not give accurate numbers just for politics sake and India has many millions of people living in small villages and city slums who seldom interact with the government or report deaths, they just have a family service and bury them. Many people still believe that the dead should just be dropped in one of the sacred rivers so even if the government came by to check on the deaths from COVID there are no graves, just a body that drifted away on the river and was eaten by water life. So their numbers were probably even less accurate than China.

And then there are parts of Africa, parts of Asia & remote areas of So America etc. etc. etc. I saw articles of entire villages in Africa being a ghost town, no one to count the dead and when the government checked they just dug trenches with a bulldozer, dropped all the bodies in, burned the buildings to hopefully kill the virus and moved on down the road to check the next village. I saw similar things in Vietnam during the Tet Offensive, bulldozers and back hoes digging large holes in the cemetery next to our base and then trucks of bodies in piles pulling in and soldiers tossing them in until the hole was full, and a dozer pushed dirt over them then dug the next hole. That happened several times a day for a couple of weeks. So if you tell me it didn't happen in many places during COVID I will call you ignorant if I am in a nice mood and a liar if I am in a bad mood.

*Remember all the reports that many places deliberately over counted COVID deaths for benefits and aid? Someone comes into the ER/Trauma Center/Morgue dead from a traffic accident, heart attack etc. etc. and they also had COVID = just put them on the Covid death list. It was a lot less work for the severely over worked medical staffs. Who were already running to another in the endless line of patients or bodies coming in. No string of lab tests to determine the cause of death, no need for an autopsy etc. etc. just put another name on the COVID list. Reportedly that happened in a lot of places around the world. Too over worked to test and make accurate records.

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Apr 27, 2024 20:55:33   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
kymarto wrote:
Trump is on trial for starters



"It's never a bad day when a Trump is on trial." Strip Mall Lawyers Club.

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Apr 27, 2024 21:41:53   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
Texcaster wrote:


"It's never a bad day when a Trump is on trial." Strip Mall Lawyers Club.


Well, then we are in for a lot of good days.

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Apr 28, 2024 10:18:49   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
robertjerl wrote:
As President Trump is not an MD and most especially not a Virologist he was following the advice of the government and other "experts", like Fauci and the CDC among others.
They were the ones who didn't quite figure out what to do.

Then there is the nature of the American People. We don't like being told what to do by"experts" or politicians. We don't like to be restricted in our movements and we are probably the most mobile nation on Earth. We are constantly on the move for work, shopping, just for fun and more Americans both numerically and % wise move addresses per year than anyone else. Not only that, but we also like to congregate for meeting, movies, sports etc. etc.
All of which tends to negate the anti-COVID measures if people were following them in the first place. Hell we even had door to door sales people coming around during COVID - we put a sign on our front door stating we would not be answering the door.

As to our large numbers of deaths during COVID, well take all the above and combine it with our nearly 340million (#3 behind China and India) population and our nearly 100% coverage of statistics and it is no wonder our reported deaths were so high.* China I am at least 99% certain did not give accurate numbers just for politics sake and India has many millions of people living in small villages and city slums who seldom interact with the government or report deaths, they just have a family service and bury them. Many people still believe that the dead should just be dropped in one of the sacred rivers so even if the government came by to check on the deaths from COVID there are no graves, just a body that drifted away on the river and was eaten by water life. So their numbers were probably even less accurate than China.

And then there are parts of Africa, parts of Asia & remote areas of So America etc. etc. etc. I saw articles of entire villages in Africa being a ghost town, no one to count the dead and when the government checked they just dug trenches with a bulldozer, dropped all the bodies in, burned the buildings to hopefully kill the virus and moved on down the road to check the next village. I saw similar things in Vietnam during the Tet Offensive, bulldozers and back hoes digging large holes in the cemetery next to our base and then trucks of bodies in piles pulling in and soldiers tossing them in until the hole was full, and a dozer pushed dirt over them then dug the next hole. That happened several times a day for a couple of weeks. So if you tell me it didn't happen in many places during COVID I will call you ignorant if I am in a nice mood and a liar if I am in a bad mood.

*Remember all the reports that many places deliberately over counted COVID deaths for benefits and aid? Someone comes into the ER/Trauma Center/Morgue dead from a traffic accident, heart attack etc. etc. and they also had COVID = just put them on the Covid death list. It was a lot less work for the severely over worked medical staffs. Who were already running to another in the endless line of patients or bodies coming in. No string of lab tests to determine the cause of death, no need for an autopsy etc. etc. just put another name on the COVID list. Reportedly that happened in a lot of places around the world. Too over worked to test and make accurate records.
As President Trump is not an MD and most especiall... (show quote)

No, trump absolutely ignored the early warnings he got as early as December of 2019.

By the time trump finally assembled his Covid response team, the "horse had already bolted out of the barn" so to say.

The mistakes trump made in not taking corrective measures after FAILING a disaster recovery exercise in 2018 and dissolving the pandemic response team contributed hugely to trump's disastrous Covid-19 Pandemic failure.

It's coming out that trump's Covid-19 response team had their hands tied in what they were able to say publicly, or risk being let go by trump.

Remember that trump didn't want testing done at the beginning of the Pandemic, just to keep the number of confirmed cases low!

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Apr 28, 2024 10:36:03   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
No, trump absolutely ignored the early warnings he got as early as December of 2019.

By the time trump finally assembled his Covid response team, the "horse had already bolted out of the barn" so to say.

The mistakes trump made in not taking corrective measures after FAILING a disaster recovery exercise in 2018 and dissolving the pandemic response team contributed hugely to trump's disastrous Covid-19 Pandemic failure.

It's coming out that trump's Covid-19 response team had their hands tied in what they were able to say publicly, or risk being let go by trump.

Remember that trump didn't want testing done, just to keep the number of confirmed cases low!
No, trump absolutely ignored the early warnings he... (show quote)


Coming OUT where, Trump's response team had their hands tied etc. Maybe out Uranus. Every politician in the country made mistakes regarding Covid including numerous Democratic assholes. Yet you ONLY blame Trump. Pretty convenient especially when you are doing your best through Kangaroo Courts, lying corrupt Left Wingers just like you who keep pushing the bullshit on a daily basis.

Wasn't it you who a few days ago stated more people died under Trump than Biden? It would seem, look it up, over 600,000 more people died under Biden's Reign of Terror than under Trump. People are still dying of Covid. Here is a clue. Trump is no longer the President.

Who is the LIAR now? Looks like it would be YOU on the Left.

Dennis

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Apr 28, 2024 10:51:19   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
No, trump absolutely ignored the early warnings he got as early as December of 2019.

By the time trump finally assembled his Covid response team, the "horse had already bolted out of the barn" so to say.

The mistakes trump made in not taking corrective measures after FAILING a disaster recovery exercise in 2018 and dissolving the pandemic response team contributed hugely to trump's disastrous Covid-19 Pandemic failure.

It's coming out that trump's Covid-19 response team had their hands tied in what they were able to say publicly, or risk being let go by trump.

Remember that trump didn't want testing done at the beginning of the Pandemic, just to keep the number of confirmed cases low!
No, trump absolutely ignored the early warnings he... (show quote)


Just more pathological lies from you again.

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Apr 28, 2024 10:51:20   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Coming OUT where, Trump's response team had their hands tied etc. Maybe out Uranus. Every politician in the country made mistakes regarding Covid including numerous Democratic assholes. Yet you ONLY blame Trump. Pretty convenient especially when you are doing your best through Kangaroo Courts, lying corrupt Left Wingers just like you who keep pushing the bullshit on a daily basis.

Wasn't it you who a few days ago stated more people died under Trump than Biden? It would seem, look it up, over 600,000 more people died under Biden's Reign of Terror than under Trump. People are still dying of Covid. Here is a clue. Trump is no longer the President.

Who is the LIAR now? Looks like it would be YOU on the Left.

Dennis
Coming OUT where, Trump's response team had their ... (show quote)


You are the LIAR now and always.

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Apr 28, 2024 10:52:12   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
Kraken wrote:
You are the LIAR now and always.


You were born a pathological liar and you will die as a pathological liar

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Apr 28, 2024 10:54:00   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
Racmanaz wrote:
You were born a pathological liar and you will die as a pathological liar


Very weak.

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Apr 28, 2024 10:57:44   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
Kraken wrote:
Very weak.


I agree, you should stop your pathological lying weakness behavior

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Apr 28, 2024 11:03:08   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
Racmanaz wrote:
I agree, you should stop your pathological lying weakness behaviour


Another very weak one.

You are just humourless with

absolutely no imagination.

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Apr 28, 2024 11:04:51   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
Kraken wrote:
Another very weak one.

You are just humourless with

absolutely no imagination.


lol as if you had any imagination to speak of. You just repeat the same one liners over and over again. You’re a waste of time for everybody.

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