The problem with campus protests
Apr 26, 2024 13:08:10 #
Triple G wrote:
It's difficult to claim a higher moral calling whe... (show quote)
So, do you really think that a two state solution would allow peace? I don't think that there will ever be peace, I don't think that the Palestinians would allow it, they would always view the Israelis as occupiers no matter what was given to them in return. The economic success of Israel would always be viewed as unjustly appropriated from the Palestinians in their view, the hatred will not stop, it will never stop and there is nothing that the Western aligned countries will ever be able to do about it. The arrogance of the Obama/Biden administration to think that they can is just astounding.
Apr 26, 2024 13:55:23 #
SteveR wrote:
The problem with campus protests is that they will embolden Hamas to dig in and hope that pressure will force Israel to back off. Instead, pressure should be placed on Hamas to surrender, which it should have done since the beginning of the war. Hamas has brought mayhem upon the people whose best interests they are supposed to be serving. Instead, they seem to be serving some jihad instead.
Sure thing , Hamas is winning and they don't have to fire a shot. They still have the hostages, their Ace in the hole. These dumb ass protesters ain't nothing new had loads of them back in the 60's. Still just as fkn stupid.
Apr 26, 2024 14:43:51 #
Blurryeyed wrote:
BS, the Palestinians will never stop seeking the d... (show quote)
You really don't have much comprehension of Bibi's fait accompli. NOW, there won't be another shortage of terrorists for decades.
Apr 26, 2024 15:04:21 #
Texcaster wrote:
You really don't have much comprehension of Bibi's fait accompli. NOW, there won't be another shortage of terrorists for decades.
How would have our country reacted had the government of Mexico sent cartel members over to the US to rape, murder, and mutilate 10,000 or so of our citizens? What do you think would have followed?
Apr 26, 2024 15:06:01 #
Blurryeyed wrote:
How would have our country reacted had the government of Mexico sent cartel members over to the US to rape, murder, and mutilate 10,000 or so of our citizens? What do you think would have followed?
Mexico would pay for the wall?
Apr 26, 2024 15:19:52 #
Texcaster wrote:
Mexico would pay for the wall?
Heck, a bunch of Saudis killed some 3,000 Americans so we went off and killed a couple of hundred thousand Iraqis that had nothing to do with it.
Nobody should know better than you that war is horror plain and simple but if you are going to fight one you best had better win.
Apr 26, 2024 15:40:05 #
Blurryeyed wrote:
Heck, a bunch of Saudis killed some 3,000 Americans so we went off and killed a couple of hundred thousand Iraqis that had nothing to do with it.
Nobody should know better than you that war is horror plain and simple but if you are going to fight one you best had better win.
Nobody should know better than you that war is horror plain and simple but if you are going to fight one you best had better win.
... or ensure that the war doesn't end for decades more and that Israel now has to bear international condemnation. It was a mega suicide mission by Hamas for the ordinary, rank and file, young Palestinian families ... whether they like it or not. "It's here! Have a nice day!" Hamas
Apr 26, 2024 15:43:56 #
Texcaster wrote:
... or ensure that the war doesn't end for decades more and that Israel now has to bear international condemnation. It was a mega suicide mission by Hamas for the ordinary, rank and file, young Palestinian families ... whether they like it or not. "It's here! Have a nice day!" Hamas
So why is Israel being condemned when Hamas started it and still has hostages. Israel is on the right here.
Apr 26, 2024 15:49:52 #
Texcaster wrote:
... or ensure that the war doesn't end for decades more and that Israel now has to bear international condemnation. It was a mega suicide mission by Hamas for the ordinary, rank and file, young Palestinian families ... whether they like it or not. "It's here! Have a nice day!" Hamas
The problem is that young Palestinians are taught math by counting dead Jews, as Hamas dragged the naked bodies of young Israeli women through their streets the streets filled with cheering Palestinians. I don't care which country you pick in any other parts of the world, that scene would only be met with horror and shame, but not in Palestine, there will never be peace there and if you give the Palestinians their own country it will only get worse.
https://www.thejc.com/news/israel/in-uk-funded-schools-in-gaza-pupils-learn-maths-by-counting-martyrs-jz5rqqle
https://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/Palestinian-text-books-in-UNWRA-schools-reportedly-teach-of-killing-Jews-472012#google_vignette
Apr 26, 2024 15:50:21 #
btbg wrote:
So why is Israel being condemned when Hamas started it and still has hostages. Israel is on the right here.
Bibi has buggered Israel by out-barbarizing Hamas.
Apr 26, 2024 15:56:55 #
Texcaster wrote:
Bibi has buggered Israel by out-barbarizing Hamas.
What exctly has Israel done that is barbaric. You seen to not understand that Hamas hides in schools and hospitals. Tjey are causing tje civilian casualties not Israel. Tje only thing you have proposed tjat Israel do in response to the Hamas attack is to give up tje West Bank which has absolutely zero to do with this conflict. If people are going to condemn Israel then at least propose a legitimate course of action tjat they could tale tjat would be different. My response to Hamas wouls have been far more harsh tjan Biebis. For example I would never have traded prisoners for hostages. I would have offered to execute prisoners until tje hostages were returned then I would have taken hostages of my own. Meet force with greater force is tje only successful way to end conflocts that someone else starts.
Apr 26, 2024 16:05:38 #
btbg wrote:
What exctly has Israel done that is barbaric. You ... (show quote)
If you want to play 'silly buggers', go for your life. I only point out that this 'war' will not end the conflict. There will never be a Rambo solution to Palestine. Maybe get Jared Kushner back on the case.
Apr 26, 2024 16:24:52 #
Texcaster wrote:
If you want to play 'silly buggers', go for your life. I only point out that this 'war' will not end the conflict. There will never be a Rambo solution to Palestine. Maybe get Jared Kushner back on the case.
I agree there is no simple solution but you keep saying Bebi is wrong but give no legitate solution and that is exactly what the rest of the world is doing. They are condemning Israel but giving them no valid alternative and they are also failing to condemn Hamas. Why? Hamas started it and could end it tomorrow by returning the hostages.
Just look at the current protests in the U.S. they are condemning Israel siding with Hamas and not condning Hamas. What else is Israel supposed to do?
Heck Biden is so feckless that he is not even doing anything to get the five U.S. hostages back and somehow Bebi is the bad guy. Its absurd.
Apr 26, 2024 16:29:43 #
btbg wrote:
I agree there is no simple solution but you keep s... (show quote)
And here I thought they called themselves Jamas, not Hamas.
Apr 26, 2024 16:30:06 #
btbg wrote:
So why is Israel being condemned when Hamas started it and still has hostages. Israel is on the right here.
Neither side is blameless in this conflict and it will continue.
https://www.usip.org/publications/2024/02/plan-gazas-future-highlights-challenges-lie-ahead
https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2023/11/28/the-beginning-of-the-end-the-hypothetical-future-of-palestinian-politics
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