Time for Photographers to be Scared? (Editorial)
Apr 26, 2024 08:39:06 #
bsprague wrote:
Please report your experience!Interesting... I'm giving an "new Adobe AI tools" demo on Saturday to my retirement community's photo group. I'm wondering how much push back there will be from the reactionaries that are still wishing for SLRs loaded with Kodachrome.
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Apr 26, 2024 08:45:53 #
Robertl594 wrote:
The section you describe has been available on UHH for almost a year:I personally think that UHH needs to embrace AI with very specific rules and regs about posting any AI image. Some ideas, Separate gallery, include AI in file name, include in description.
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/s-143-1.html
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Apr 26, 2024 08:45:58 #
delder wrote:
Clarification has been attempted already. Several times IMHO, if we use the word image for highly processed "Photographs" we can help clarify this discussion.
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Apr 26, 2024 08:45:58 #
Linda From Maine wrote:
The section you describe has been available on UHH for almost a year:
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/s-143-1.html
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https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/s-143-1.html
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That’s great. Then we are in good shape. Just need to create awareness that it exists. Maybe even promote it.
Apr 26, 2024 08:46:01 #
Robertl594 wrote:
It was announced at time of opening and has been referenced more than once since then. That’s great. Then we are in good shape. Just need to create awareness that it exists. Maybe even promote it.
The challenges of promoting volunteer-managed sections are outlined here:
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/help/user_managed_sections.jsp
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Apr 26, 2024 08:46:05 #
srt101fan wrote:
When discussing any changes to UHH, keep in mind:... If you would allow a totally AI created image to be posted in any of the UHH sections, why not paintings?
Uglyhedgehog.com is a money-making business. Decisions are based on what will drive traffic to the site. For example, in September, Admin (site owner) made major changes to the emailed Daily Digest, saying, "I understand this is a big change for people who are used to the old layout. And I'm sorry for this inconvenience. But we need to change with the times. The way people use the internet has changed. " From this topic.
Owner Admin has been authorizing creation of new sections (40+ at last count), based on user interest and the willingness of a volunteer to manage. But those sections are not advertised, and most receive little traffic these days. Admin would probably agree to a new "Paintings" section. You should ask
Apr 26, 2024 08:58:12 #
Linda From Maine wrote:
It was announced at time of opening and has been referenced more than once since then.
The challenges of promoting volunteer-managed sections are outlined here:
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/help/user_managed_sections.jsp
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The challenges of promoting volunteer-managed sections are outlined here:
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/help/user_managed_sections.jsp
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I failed to notice it but now am aware of it. Must have missed class that day. Happy to have found it. Made my first post there a few minutes ago.
Apr 26, 2024 09:05:51 #
BebuLamar wrote:
Well we first have filmless photography then we have mirrorless cameras it's time for cameraless imaging. That is why they said less is more.
We've had cameraless imaging all along - it's called painting, drawing, printmaking. But it's not photography. We have had computer generated imaging since computers were invented. But that's not photography either.
Apr 26, 2024 09:09:59 #
JohnSwanda wrote:
We've had cameraless imaging all along - it's called painting, drawing, printmaking. But it's not photography. We have had computer generated imaging since computers were invented. But that's not photography either.
Oh well but then cameraless imaging isn't photography either unless you scan the objects using a scanner which has been done for a long time. But well since cameras without mirrors had been around for over 100 years the term mirrorless is less than 20 years old so perhaps the term cameraless will be used.
Apr 26, 2024 09:10:11 #
As we know Adobe has been integrating more and more AI features into Photoshop .
this is because useful and productive tools have become saturated and there is little more we need.
this is because useful and productive tools have become saturated and there is little more we need.
Apr 26, 2024 09:45:28 #
NJFrank wrote:
If you close down digital artistry you will lose people in UHH. Some of us enjoy creating composites. Whether using some AI or completely AI. You can’t make everyone happy 100% of the time.
No one is putting a gun to your head telling the person you have to post there. If one does not like entries to the section , simply don’t subscribe.
No one is putting a gun to your head telling the person you have to post there. If one does not like entries to the section , simply don’t subscribe.
I don't have a problem with composites, but why should an image that was entirely created with tools that have nothing to do with photography be allowed (other than to support a photography discussion)?
I think any image posted in any UHH section shoulld at least have had a photograph as a starting point for the creation of the image.
Apr 26, 2024 09:51:59 #
srt101fan wrote:
...I think any image posted in any UHH section shoulld at least have had a photograph as a starting point for the creation of the image.
A section dedicated to AI creations exclusively was authorized by the site owner almost a year ago. click here
Owner Admin has been authorizing creation of new sections based on user interest and the willingness of a volunteer to manage. This website is a business, i.e. for producing income for its owner
Apr 26, 2024 10:07:41 #
Boris77 wrote:
Mother would buy 10 copies of a fake that good! It's a commercial success, so who cares if it is a photograph!
Boris
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What mother would buy 10 copies of an image depicting a child not her own? Why would she do that?
Those who say cameras are becoming obsolete seem to fail to realize that there are reasons to document real events as they happen and that people will always want to see themselves and loved ones as they really appeared and not just computer-generated generic representations of "people" doing something similar to what they did at their wedding, vacation, family picnic, etc. etc.
If you are an art director creating a commercial, you can use AI to generate fake people doing fake things to illustrate your point, but if you are the parent of a child graduating high school, why would you hang a picture of a fake event that never happened full of images of people who never existed as a memento of that occasion?
Apr 26, 2024 10:09:42 #
srt101fan wrote:
...I think any image posted in any UHH section shoulld at least have had a photograph as a starting point for the creation of the image.
A section dedicated to AI creations exclusively was authorized by the site owner almost a year ago. click here
Owner Admin has been authorizing creation of new sections based on user interest and the willingness of a volunteer to manage. This website is a business, i.e. for producing income for its owner
Apr 26, 2024 10:14:09 #
Doyle Thomas wrote:
As we know Adobe has been integrating more and more AI features into Photoshop .
this is because useful and productive tools have become saturated and there is little more we need.
this is because useful and productive tools have become saturated and there is little more we need.
And in the late 1800s, scientists declared that classical physics had solved all the problems and there was nothing more to discover (in spite of things like the ultraviolet catastrophe {q.g.}*).
There is usually a need for more. (Never say always).
* q.g. => latin abbreviation for quod google
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