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Apr 24, 2024 18:29:34   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
The problem with campus protests is that they will embolden Hamas to dig in and hope that pressure will force Israel to back off. Instead, pressure should be placed on Hamas to surrender, which it should have done since the beginning of the war. Hamas has brought mayhem upon the people whose best interests they are supposed to be serving. Instead, they seem to be serving some jihad instead.

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Apr 24, 2024 18:58:00   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
You haven't noticed the world wide condemnation of Bibi's Zionist 'over-achieving' in Gaza? He's saddled Israel with decades of 'fear and loathing' and more condemnation.

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Apr 24, 2024 19:11:41   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
SteveR wrote:
The problem with campus protests is that they will embolden Hamas to dig in and hope that pressure will force Israel to back off. Instead, pressure should be placed on Hamas to surrender, which it should have done since the beginning of the war. Hamas has brought mayhem upon the people whose best interests they are supposed to be serving. Instead, they seem to be serving some jihad instead.


I'm sure some of the gung-ho reactionary bros here wouldn't mind rolling out a warm 'Kent State Protest Crackdown!' on the campus protesters. 'Special needs patriot' Kyle Rittenhouse'$ calendar is wide open for 'appearance$' these day$ now that MAGA ha$ dumped him.

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Apr 24, 2024 19:51:52   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
Texcaster wrote:
You haven't noticed the world wide condemnation of Bibi's Zionist 'over-achieving' in Gaza? He's saddled Israel with decades of 'fear and loathing' and more condemnation.


The attack by Hamas killed about as many Israelis as American military personnel died at Pearl Harbor. So, I suppose you think that we over-reacted by island hopping on the way to Japan as well, which resulted in the deaths of many, many civilians.

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Apr 24, 2024 20:02:34   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
SteveR wrote:
The attack by Hamas killed about as many Israelis as American military personnel died at Pearl Harbor. So, I suppose you think that we over-reacted by island hopping on the way to Japan as well, which resulted in the deaths of many, many civilians.


I'm talking about now and the next few decades ... Bibi has single-handedly buggered Israel's standing in the world. That was the Hamas simple plan. Bibi had plenty of expert warning from around the world ... "Do Not Overreact! That is the Hamas hope!"

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Apr 24, 2024 20:34:00   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
Texcaster wrote:
I'm talking about now and the next few decades ... Bibi has single-handedly buggered Israel's standing in the world. That was the Hamas simple plan. Bibi had plenty of expert warning from around the world ... "Do Not Overreact! That is the Hamas hope!"


Over react? Israel has been plagued by rockets being fired into its territory for years, as well as other attacks. I don't think you realize the size of the October attack as well as the hostages that not only were taken but raped and tortured. Hamas needs to be either wiped out or surrender. Israel realize that Hamas cannot be allowed to continue to exist even if the rest of the world doesn't realize it.

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Apr 24, 2024 21:30:12   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
Texcaster wrote:
I'm sure some of the gung-ho reactionary bros here wouldn't mind rolling out a warm 'Kent State Protest Crackdown!' on the campus protesters. 'Special needs patriot' Kyle Rittenhouse'$ calendar is wide open for 'appearance$' these day$ now that MAGA ha$ dumped him.


The fascists are still with us ... who knew?

The Republicans Who Want American Carnage
Calls for the National Guard to stop campus protests are not about safety.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/04/columbia-national-guard-tom-cotton/678163/

" ... Tom Cotton has never seen a left-wing protest he didn’t want crushed at gunpoint.

On Monday, the Arkansas senator demanded that President Joe Biden send in the National Guard to clear out the student protests at Columbia University against the Israel-Hamas war, which he described as “the nascent pogroms at Columbia.” Last week, Cotton posted on X, “I encourage people who get stuck behind the pro-Hamas mobs blocking traffic: take matters into your own hands. It’s time to put an end to this nonsense.” He later deleted the post and reworded it so that it did not sound quite so explicitly like a demand for aspiring vigilantes to lynch protesters.

This is a long-standing pattern for Cotton, who enjoys issuing calls for violence that linger on the edge of plausible deniability when it comes to which groups, exactly, are appropriate targets for lethal force. During the George Floyd protests of 2020, Cotton demanded that the U.S. military be sent in with orders to give “no quarter for insurrectionists, anarchists, rioters, and looters,” insisting unconvincingly in a later New York Times op-ed that he was not conflating peaceful protesters with rioters. Senator Josh Hawley of Missouri, who had raised a fist in apparent solidarity with the mob that assaulted the Capitol on January 6 before fleeing through the halls to avoid them once the riot began, echoed Cotton’s call for deploying the National Guard to Columbia. (Both men, as it turns out, are in favor of some quarter for “insurrectionists” who happen to be on the right side.) ... "

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Apr 24, 2024 21:35:59   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
SteveR wrote:
Over react? Israel has been plagued by rockets being fired into its territory for years, as well as other attacks. I don't think you realize the size of the October attack as well as the hostages that not only were taken but raped and tortured. Hamas needs to be either wiped out or surrender. Israel realize that Hamas cannot be allowed to continue to exist even if the rest of the world doesn't realize it.


Yes, way overreacted! Israel will be ostracized for decades.
Steve - "I don't think you realize the size of the October attack as well as the hostages that not only were taken but raped and tortured." This isn't secret news. It was raw barbarism! Everybody gets that.

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Apr 25, 2024 00:36:31   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
Texcaster wrote:
Yes, way overreacted! Israel will be ostracized for decades.
Steve - "I don't think you realize the size of the October attack as well as the hostages that not only were taken but raped and tortured." This isn't secret news. It was raw barbarism! Everybody gets that.


If you read Revelation you find that Russian and other countries are mentioned, but not the U.S.

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Apr 25, 2024 10:12:41   #
btbg
 
Texcaster wrote:
Yes, way overreacted! Israel will be ostracized for decades.
Steve - "I don't think you realize the size of the October attack as well as the hostages that not only were taken but raped and tortured." This isn't secret news. It was raw barbarism! Everybody gets that.


Then why do you say Israel has overacted? What should they have done?

Look what we did after 9 11. We shoild be supporting Israels right to defend themselves.

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Apr 25, 2024 12:36:24   #
charles tabb Loc: Richmond VA.
 
SteveR wrote:
The problem with campus protests is that they will embolden Hamas to dig in and hope that pressure will force Israel to back off. Instead, pressure should be placed on Hamas to surrender, which it should have done since the beginning of the war. Hamas has brought mayhem upon the people whose best interests they are supposed to be serving. Instead, they seem to be serving some jihad instead.



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Apr 25, 2024 15:24:35   #
srg
 
SteveR wrote:
If you read Revelation you find that Russian and other countries are mentioned, but not the U.S.


The thing that Revelation revealed was the paranoia and fear of the authors. Their hatred for God's creation is on full display in this ancient but effective horror story.
I like religion that is loving and forgiving instead of one that predicts eternal torture.

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Apr 25, 2024 15:45:38   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
btbg wrote:
Then why do you say Israel has overacted? What should they have done?

Look what we did after 9 11. We shoild be supporting Israels right to defend themselves.


"Then why do you say Israel has overacted? " It's the out-of-control genocide that worries most people. Israel has squandered international solidarity and sympathy by out barbarizing the barbarians. That was the crude Hamas plan. Pay attention instead of playing 'silly buggers'.

Bush and the other 'merry amigos' are international war crime fugitives for their optional invasion of !raq. Pay attention.

Will special needs patriot Kyle Rittenhouse be trotted out to 'smarten-up' the 'un-American protesters' again?

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Apr 25, 2024 15:50:29   #
btbg
 
Texcaster wrote:
"Then why do you say Israel has overacted? " It's the out-of-control genocide that worries most people. Israel has squandered international solidarity and sympathy by out barbarizing the barbarians. That was the crude Hamas plan. Pay attention instead of playing 'silly buggers'.

Bush and the other 'merry amigos' are international war crime fugitives for their optional invasion of !raq. Pay attention.

Will special needs patriot Kyle Rittenhouse be trotted out to 'smarten-up' the 'un-American protesters' again?
"Then why do you say Israel has overacted? &q... (show quote)


I didnt need your editorializing about Bush. I was askong what yoi think Israel should have done? You acknowledge tjat tje attack by Hamas was barbaric. If you were in charge would you allow a terrorist organization to continue to exist next door to you?

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Apr 25, 2024 16:00:21   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
btbg wrote:
I didnt need your editorializing about Bush. I was askong what yoi think Israel should have done? You acknowledge tjat tje attack by Hamas was barbaric. If you were in charge would you allow a terrorist organization to continue to exist next door to you?



Please tell us of any reasonable people that support the Hamas festival attack. No one that's who.
I would start by surrendering all the stolen West Bank settler lands. What would you do? Kill more kids? Bibi has well and truly buggered Israel no matter how you try and spin it.

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