rwoodvira

Blaster34 Loc: Florida Treasure Coast

Thank goodness someone, even if they are dead, and organizations are continuing to expose this environmental scam....

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The only environmental scammers are deniers like you who don't care about their grandchildren.

rwoodvira

Whether you believe or not the scientific data shows that the planet is warming. Whether it is part of a natural cycle or because of human interference; you may agree or not, it is just the fact. Here's the information from NASA and see the attached chart which has confirmation from 4 sources.
https://science.nasa.gov/climate-change/scientific-consensus/

If you want to believe it is human, you might find it interesting that the temperature has consistently risen since the industrial revolution. As industry developed, our use of fossil fuel increased. Is there a valid correlation? Probably. But if not, the phenomenon of warming still exists.

These changes have begun to have profound changes, it will worsen as it continues; sadly there are always the nay-sayers. I worry for my children and grandchildren.

There was an old saying my former business: "You can't engineer stupid." I look at the facts rather than the BS from politicians. I suggest you do the same.

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Blaster34 Loc: Florida Treasure Coast

BOTH NASA and NOAA were caught and admitted to altering and fudging climate data to fit their agenda....I don;t trust ANY government agency, period. Trust and believe all you want. Now its Earth Day and my wife and I are going out for a nice long drive in my F-250 Diesel, all because I can.

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That'l show em'
Way to go.

Effate Loc: El Dorado Hills, Ca.

Is there any hypocrisy in claiming to care about grandchildren while handing them a 34 trillion dollar debt (interest $658 billion for 2023, up 38% from 2022).

Blaster34 Loc: Florida Treasure Coast

Its only money! They can print as much as they want especially if its to save all of mankind (I can use that word, correct?)

Effate Loc: El Dorado Hills, Ca.

I think you are disrespecting the other 37 gender subsets of Homo sapiens!

Blaster34 Loc: Florida Treasure Coast

I surely hope so....

rwoodvira

NASA and NOAA certainly did not help the cause by fudging data, another saying is "Figures don't lie, but liars figure." The current data appears to be correct, but if you don't believe that talk to the people on low-lying islands that are already losing land because of the rising waters from melting ice-caps:
https://www.worldatlas.com/climate/8-countries-that-could-vanish-due-to-climate-change.html

Or you might do what I've done since you are in a photography forum - I spoke to guys that lead other photographers to the Arctic and Antarctica who universally have said that the ice packs are dramatically less than when they first started doing the tours.

The whole problem reminds me of when Rachel Carson published Silent Spring. Plenty of deniers, but she turned out to be right.

Many years ago as a grad student I wrote a paper on land pollution. A friend used it to develop some insurance coverages at his company. I'm sure I'm not even a foot note now. My boss got wind of it and the next thing I know I'm meeting with executives that were buying a property for a new plant in Massachusetts. The EPA had just started. An adjacent property about a quarter of a mile down the road had heavy metals and other junk dumped there. I was asked how much in danger their proposed site was to the contaminants. I got the details on the property, how long the dump was there, from location I had a rough idea of the soil and made a phone call to learn the average rainfall did my calculations on my trusty HP calculator and said ok - ask your questions. The question was: Will the new property become contaminated from the dump? I showed them my figures and said that it was already contaminated and the contamination was at least two miles down the road. They did soil samples based on my notes - my prediction, if anything was conservative. People thought that environmental crap was BS at the time Guess what, it wasn't.

As I said before, whether it is natural or manmade, it is getting warmer. Deniability is easy, predicting the future is very hard - you have to sort through the BS of the researchers and the real BS of the politicians. The situation in my opinion is real. If we do nothing or plan nothing it is not you or I or our generation that will suffer - it will be our children and grandchildren.