Pancake Lens
Apr 20, 2024 15:27:17 #
I don't think Fujifilm is very popular with UHH folk, but I strongly recommend tha Fujinon 27 mm 1:2.8 lens, mated to the wonderfully small X-T30 body. This is about as unobtrusive a kit as you can have and is excellent to use. Lens runs about $300.
Apr 20, 2024 18:04:45 #
Thanks again everyone for the suggestions. I did decide to get the z40 f2 (in fact it arrived today). It looks small enough and it gets great reviews.
Apr 20, 2024 20:14:59 #
Bridges wrote:
Thanks again everyone for the suggestions. I did decide to get the z40 f2 (in fact it arrived today). It looks small enough and it gets great reviews.
It also gets great pix. Enjoy !
Apr 21, 2024 06:35:37 #
Artcameraman
Loc: Springfield NH
OK, yes, I use a "nifty fifty" when street shooting but it's an old lens and Manual focus. The AF lenses of today don't cut it.
Apr 21, 2024 17:03:05 #
Artcameraman wrote:
OK, yes, I use a "nifty fifty" when street shooting but it's an old lens and Manual focus. The AF lenses of today don't cut it.
The OP is poised to disprove your unhappy comment about "AF lenses of today".
As to your choice of old MF lenses for street, plenty of us agree on that. But any compact AF lens with a halfway usable focusing scale can also hold its own for street.
An AF lens without a focus scale depends on the feature set of the camera body to make prefocus or zone focus feasable.
Lets not ignore that theres plenty of street environments where normal AF operation works perfectly with a "short normal" lens such as the OPs new 40. See attached for Worst Case Scenario ... meaning "iphone".
Full time AF (no lock)
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Full time AF (no lock)
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Full time AF (no lock)
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Full time AF (no lock)
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Apr 21, 2024 19:19:45 #
Bridges wrote:
Has anyone ever produced a really good pancake lens? It seems all the ones I've ever seen just rate ok, not excellent. I would like to have a very good copy of one of these to do street photography with. In the z system, even the 50mm looks like a short telephoto and is more lens than I would like to show when doing discrete shooting.
I’m not familiar with the Nikon version of a 50mm pancake but the Canon version is no where close to excellent. This should be an opportunity to improve what they currently have.
The other alternative is to have no lens on the camera and a body cover. As for being discreet, that is the best alternative. Just saying….?
Apr 21, 2024 19:54:13 #
Scruples wrote:
......... other alternative is to have no lens on the camera and a body cover. As for being discreet, that is the best alternative. Just saying….?
The marketplace has heard you. See attached.
Apr 22, 2024 07:29:02 #
Artcameraman
Loc: Springfield NH
User ID wrote:
The OP is poised to disprove your unhappy comment ... (show quote)
Just my opinion but someday I'll get something for my "Z" mount in 50mm that compares to my adapted "F". Of course I'm shooting at "Full spectrum to 720nm" so this is a problem with ALL AF systems with their inability to focus quickly and maintain the focus. Yes, I did calibrate my "50" for "Full Spectrum" and at distances beyond 6' it works well but at close distances there is a focus problem.
Apr 22, 2024 09:12:11 #
Ok, aren’t we allowed to have “standards” so that people know WTF you’re talking about. These are not! Pancake Lenses, they are Body Cap lenses. Designed as simple slow wide angle lenses, often triploid.
Pancake lenses are Tessar formulations, generally 4 elements in a symmetric arrangement. Among the most famous are : the Nikkor 45GN. Before multiple lens coatings the simpler constructions were said to offer more contrast due to less light loss due to internal reflections. Modern coatings allowed for additional elements which provide the optical corrections necessary for each lenses intended use.
So please, ya got you’re Pancakes, you’re Lens cap wide angles, and the nifty fifty everyone wants to embrace, going to a 5+ element “Planar” which provided the corrections necessary to allow for increasing lens speed
Pancake lenses are Tessar formulations, generally 4 elements in a symmetric arrangement. Among the most famous are : the Nikkor 45GN. Before multiple lens coatings the simpler constructions were said to offer more contrast due to less light loss due to internal reflections. Modern coatings allowed for additional elements which provide the optical corrections necessary for each lenses intended use.
So please, ya got you’re Pancakes, you’re Lens cap wide angles, and the nifty fifty everyone wants to embrace, going to a 5+ element “Planar” which provided the corrections necessary to allow for increasing lens speed
Apr 22, 2024 12:14:50 #
This is the wikipedia definition of pancake lens:
"A pancake lens is a colloquial term for a flat, thin camera lens assembly (short barrel). The majority are prime lenses of a normal or slightly wider angle .."
In other words: there are no very good definitions accepted. Fits my Panasonix lumix F 1.7 20 mm; fits my Fujinon F 2.8 27 mm. Fits my air-focus pancake lens. Fits....
"A pancake lens is a colloquial term for a flat, thin camera lens assembly (short barrel). The majority are prime lenses of a normal or slightly wider angle .."
In other words: there are no very good definitions accepted. Fits my Panasonix lumix F 1.7 20 mm; fits my Fujinon F 2.8 27 mm. Fits my air-focus pancake lens. Fits....
Apr 22, 2024 12:59:26 #
Flickwet wrote:
Ok, aren’t we allowed to have “standards” so that ... (show quote)
Yes, those ARE "body cap" lenses, and they do meet "The Standard" for which that illustrated post is a reply.
You need to read waaaaay more slowlier, and perhaps read aloud, maybe to your cat.
Theres no need for you to post your definition of pancake lenses. We all know what they are. Its not rocket science (and moreover you are not a rocket scientist).
Apr 22, 2024 13:08:55 #
“You need to read waaaaay more slowlier, and perhaps read aloud, maybe to your cat.
Theres no need for you to post your definition of pancake lenses. We all know what they are. Its not rocket science (and moreover you are not a rocket scientist).[/quote]”
Aren’t you a cunning wit, thank you so very much for your brilliant reply
Theres no need for you to post your definition of pancake lenses. We all know what they are. Its not rocket science (and moreover you are not a rocket scientist).[/quote]”
Aren’t you a cunning wit, thank you so very much for your brilliant reply
Apr 22, 2024 13:46:54 #
Apr 22, 2024 14:25:49 #
levinton wrote:
Thanks for your recommendations. I will get a cat. And hope you have a nice day.
Are you AKA "Flickwet" ??
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