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Apr 21, 2024 18:10:38   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
btbg wrote:
Then how do you propose to get rid of Hamas. We are not misunderstanding you. Either Hamas is allowed to continue to attack Israel or they have to be destroyed. Hamas is evil. Look at what they did on Oct.7. That is pure evil. If you were Israel would you allow them to remain? Hamas hides in schools and hospitals so there will be civilian casualties, but why do you choose to accept the word of the Palastinians as to what is happening. They started it and they have clearly lied during this conflict so why do you believe anything they say?

Also you forget that more than 70 percent of Palistine voted to elect Hamas. Thet is their chosen government. They chose to support terrorism and now they are paying the price for that.
Then how do you propose to get rid of Hamas. We ar... (show quote)


Seems so.

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Apr 21, 2024 18:33:46   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
Racmanaz wrote:
You only think that way because you and DennyT are blatant anti-Semites.


You have just proven how totally ignorant you are.

Being against actions of current administration has nothing to do with religion in theleast . Even thousands of Israelis peace and the killing to stop.

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Apr 21, 2024 18:46:12   #
btbg
 
DennyT wrote:
You have just proven how totally ignorant you are.

Being against actions of current administration has nothing to do with religion in theleast . Even thousands of Israelis peace and the killing to stop.


Denny, please answer the question how do you get rid of Hamas? Raz posted an article the shows at length that they hide ilegally among civilians. What should Israel do? They lost 1100 citizens to a barberic attack and tjere are still 140 hostages, so just answer the question, what should Israel be doing differently?

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Apr 21, 2024 18:47:48   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
DennyT wrote:
You have just proven how totally ignorant you are.

Being against actions of current administration has nothing to do with religion in theleast . Even thousands of Israelis peace and the killing to stop.


Liar, we all know your history of antisemitism just by the lies you spew about Israel and Netanyahu himself. You are a pawn for Hamas and Hamas agrees with you. It’s too bad you are so ignorant and illiterate.

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Apr 21, 2024 19:19:37   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
wilpharm wrote:
go away, canuck..no one cares about your opinion

The problem is that the trump cultists refuse to open their eyes and see that Putin and trump ARE trying to destroy the United States!

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Apr 21, 2024 19:24:48   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
btbg wrote:
We are not at war with Russia, so why are we funding Ukraine? And, we aren't funding the killing of children we are funding the eradication of a terrorist group.

The United States and NATO countries are trying to PREVENT an all out war with Russia by pushing Russia out of Ukraine which Russia illegally invaded.

Russia invaded the sovereign country of Ukraine in a land grab.

Open your eyes.

Putin is desperately trying to put the USSR back together before he either loses power or dies.

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Apr 21, 2024 19:32:15   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
Racmanaz wrote:
Liar, we all know your history of antisemitism just by the lies you spew about Israel and Netanyahu himself. You are a pawn for Hamas and Hamas agrees with you. It’s too bad you are so ignorant and illiterate.


You start off with LIAR and nobody wants to read further. You are such a loser.

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Apr 21, 2024 19:33:10   #
btbg
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
The United States and NATO countries are trying to PREVENT an all out war with Russia by pushing Russia out of Ukraine which Russia illegally invaded.

Russia invaded the sovereign country of Ukraine in a land grab.

Open your eyes.

Putin is desperately trying to put the USSR back together before he either loses power or dies.


Open your eyes Iran is trying to start an all out war with Israel and the U.S. Obama foolishly gave them the ability to develop nuclear weapons and they have made clear that once they have them their intent is to destroy both Israel and the U.S.

Russia is a danger but only indirectly to us. Iran is a direct danger to us. Supporting Israel against Iran and Hamas is far more important to U.S. interests than what happens in Europe.

But that isn't even the issue I was trying to address. 1) we dont have the money to support either. 2) Both are similar as they are attacking allies of ours and the agressors are our enemies so the two should be treated somewhat similarly. And 3) NATO is there to help Ukraine but we are the only ally there to support Israel. So people who are arguing that we need to support Ukraine but not Israel are not thinking clearly.

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Apr 21, 2024 19:38:17   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
The problem is that the trump cultists refuse to open their eyes and see that Putin and trump ARE trying to destroy the United States!


lol So stupid, why must you continue your BS conspiracy lie that Trump wants to destroy America? lol You are an unhinged far lefty cultist.

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Apr 21, 2024 19:43:32   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
btbg wrote:
Open your eyes Iran is trying to start an all out war with Israel and the U.S. Obama foolishly gave them the ability to develop nuclear weapons and they have made clear that once they have them their intent is to destroy both Israel and the U.S.

Russia is a danger but only indirectly to us. Iran is a direct danger to us. Supporting Israel against Iran and Hamas is far more important to U.S. interests than what happens in Europe.

But that isn't even the issue I was trying to address. 1) we dont have the money to support either. 2) Both are similar as they are attacking allies of ours and the agressors are our enemies so the two should be treated somewhat similarly. And 3) NATO is there to help Ukraine but we are the only ally there to support Israel. So people who are arguing that we need to support Ukraine but not Israel are not thinking clearly.
Open your eyes Iran is trying to start an all out ... (show quote)

It was under trump that the US withdrew from the Iran Nuclear Deal, allowing Iran to resume their enrichment of uranium!

https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/05/08/iran-advances-nuclear-program-withdrawal-jcpoa/

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Apr 21, 2024 19:45:44   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
Racmanaz wrote:
lol So stupid, why must you continue your BS conspiracy lie that Trump wants to destroy America? lol You are an unhinged far lefty cultist.


You will never learn.

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Apr 21, 2024 19:45:50   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
Racmanaz wrote:
lol So stupid, why must you continue your BS conspiracy lie that Trump wants to destroy America? lol You are an unhinged far lefty cultist.

There are none so blind as those who will not see.

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Apr 21, 2024 19:49:29   #
btbg
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
It was under trump that the US withdrew from the Iran Nuclear Deal, allowing Iran to resume their enrichment of uranium!

https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/05/08/iran-advances-nuclear-program-withdrawal-jcpoa/


Withdrawing from the deal wasnt the problem. The deal was the problem. It gave them money to fund their nuclear program and never had verifiable checks. Thats why Trump withdrew. It was a terrible deal that should never have been allowed as it should have been a treaty authorized by congress and that was never done. It is Obama and Biden who have given Iran access to the funds they needed to run a nuclear program, not Trump. Backing out of a bad deal is not the problem.

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Apr 21, 2024 19:51:48   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
There are none so blind as those who will not see.


Yes, that would be you the conspiracy theorist cultists.

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Apr 21, 2024 19:53:16   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
btbg wrote:
Withdrawing from the deal wasnt the problem. The deal was the problem. It gave them money to fund their nuclear program and never had verifiable checks. Thats why Trump withdrew. It was a terrible deal that should never have been allowed as it should have been a treaty authorized by congress and that was never done. It is Obama and Biden who have given Iran access to the funds they needed to run a nuclear program, not Trump. Backing out of a bad deal is not the problem.


Iran was going broke under Trumps leadership and now that have richly benefited from Biden’s weakness. Iran is much much richer now under Joe Biden then they were under Trump.

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