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Apr 21, 2024 17:01:32   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
Kraken wrote:
We are funding Ukraine so we don't have to fight Russia.

Why is it so hard for you to see that?


No, we are finding Ukraine because of Biden’s weakness in stopping Putin from invading Ukraine in the first place.

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Apr 21, 2024 17:04:51   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
Racmanaz wrote:
No, we are finding Ukraine because of Biden’s weakness in stopping Putin from invading Ukraine in the first place.


Hogwash.

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Apr 21, 2024 17:05:43   #
btbg
 
Kraken wrote:
We are funding Ukraine so we don't have to fight Russia.

Why is it so hard for you to see that?


I'm not saying that is incorrect. I'm saying that the same thing applies to Israel and Iran as to Ukraine and Russia. Denny is saying that we shouldn't support Israel. If he is correct then we should not be supporting Ukraine either. On top of that, Ukraine has the support of NATO, while no one but us is supporting Israel, and Iran is a dangerous enemy who is trying to sow terrorism around the world, and is a close ally to Russia.

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Apr 21, 2024 17:10:41   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
btbg wrote:
I'm not saying that is incorrect. I'm saying that the same thing applies to Israel and Iran as to Ukraine and Russia. Denny is saying that we shouldn't support Israel. If he is correct then we should not be supporting Ukraine either. On top of that, Ukraine has the support of NATO, while no one but us is supporting Israel, and Iran is a dangerous enemy who is trying to sow terrorism around the world, and is a close ally to Russia.


You don't want to spread yourself too thin.

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Apr 21, 2024 17:15:39   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
Kraken wrote:
Hogwash.


You are Wrong as usual, everything I said is true.

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Apr 21, 2024 17:17:48   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
Racmanaz wrote:
You are Wrong as usual, everything I said is true.


That will never happen. You are a Trump fan

so the truth is not within you.

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Apr 21, 2024 17:19:06   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
Kraken wrote:
That will never happen. You are a Trump fan

so the truth is not within you.


Liar, everything I said is true and factual.

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Apr 21, 2024 17:21:02   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
Racmanaz wrote:
Liar, everything I said is true and factual.


Only in your fantasy-filled mind.

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Apr 21, 2024 17:40:58   #
btbg
 
Kraken wrote:
You don't want to spread yourself too thin.


Thats correct, thats exactly why we should limit our support to Ukraine to the same levrl as the rest of NATO. You and Denny need to remember that Iran is allied with Russia, is working to develop nuclear weapons, thanks to Obama, and have promised to use them. Of the two conflicts the moddle east is far more dangerous to the U.S.

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Apr 21, 2024 17:52:17   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
You all misunderstand me completely.
In Ukraine they fight other soldier
In Israel they are fighting Hamas but in doing so to not even be trying to not kill children and innocent civilians.
If Ukraine were doing that I would be against send them even a penny.
The two are entirely different It is my opinion that Netanyahu want to rid GAZA of all Palestinians so he can claim it as Israel land .

Unfortunately there are a lot od really really ignorant people on the form that won’t distinguish between Hamas and innocent Palestinian.

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Apr 21, 2024 17:57:06   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
DennyT wrote:
You all misunderstand me completely.
In Ukraine they fight other soldier
In Israel they are fighting Hamas but in doing so to not even be trying to not kill children and innocent civilians.
If Ukraine were doing that I would be against send them even a penny.
The two are entirely different It is my opinion that Netanyahu want to rid GAZA of all Palestinians so he can claim it as Israel land .

Unfortunately there are a lot od really really ignorant people on the form that won’t distinguish between Hamas and innocent Palestinian.
You all misunderstand me completely. br In Ukrain... (show quote)


The problem with you is that you continue to make ch*t up then you blame others for not understanding your incomprehensible babbling nonsense. While you are at it, try not lying about Netanyahu's intentions.

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Apr 21, 2024 18:00:04   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
DennyT wrote:
You all misunderstand me completely.
In Ukraine, they fight other soldier
In Israel they are fighting Hamas but in doing so to not even trying to kill children and innocent civilians.
If Ukraine were doing that I would be against sending them even a penny.
The two are entirely different It is my opinion that Netanyahu wants to rid GAZA of all Palestinians so he can claim it as Israel's land.

Unfortunately, there are a lot of really really ignorant people on the form that won’t distinguish between Hamas and innocent Palestinians.
You all misunderstand me completely. br In Ukrain... (show quote)


That is so true.

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Apr 21, 2024 18:01:22   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
Kraken wrote:
That is so true.


You only think that way because you and DennyT are blatant anti-Semites.

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Apr 21, 2024 18:08:12   #
btbg
 
DennyT wrote:
You all misunderstand me completely.
In Ukraine they fight other soldier
In Israel they are fighting Hamas but in doing so to not even be trying to not kill children and innocent civilians.
If Ukraine were doing that I would be against send them even a penny.
The two are entirely different It is my opinion that Netanyahu want to rid GAZA of all Palestinians so he can claim it as Israel land .

Unfortunately there are a lot od really really ignorant people on the form that won’t distinguish between Hamas and innocent Palestinian.
You all misunderstand me completely. br In Ukrain... (show quote)


Then how do you propose to get rid of Hamas. We are not misunderstanding you. Either Hamas is allowed to continue to attack Israel or they have to be destroyed. Hamas is evil. Look at what they did on Oct.7. That is pure evil. If you were Israel would you allow them to remain? Hamas hides in schools and hospitals so there will be civilian casualties, but why do you choose to accept the word of the Palastinians as to what is happening. They started it and they have clearly lied during this conflict so why do you believe anything they say?

Also you forget that more than 70 percent of Palistine voted to elect Hamas. Thet is their chosen government. They chose to support terrorism and now they are paying the price for that.

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Apr 21, 2024 18:09:27   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
Let's see if the Anti-Semite pigs on here will read this and learn and STOP being a pawn for Hamas.

"Hamas officials admit its strategy is to use Palestinian civilians as human shields"


Abu Marzouk said the tunnels are “meant to protect us” from Israeli aircraft and facilitate attacks on Israeli targets.

“Us” meaning Hamas. Not civilians.

Hamas chooses not to build bomb shelters in Gaza because that would undercut its ability to use the population as human shields.

By putting civilians in or above its military positions, Hamas knows it cannot lose.

Either it will prevent Israel from attacking, since the Israeli military tries to minimize harm to civilians, or if Israel does attack, the use of human shields will ensure high civilian casualties.

Hamas can then hold the death toll against Israel while generating sympathy for itself.

Hamas uses its hundreds of miles of tunnels for military purposes: to transport weapons and ammunition, store supplies and train its members without exposing them to enemy surveillance and fire.

Equally important, the tunnels are a convenient way for Hamas to hide its military assets underneath civilian infrastructure. That is a textbook use of human shields, which international law prohibits.

Reliant on civilians to protect it from Israeli counterattacks, Hamas cannot afford to let Gaza’s civilian population seek refuge from clashes with the Israel Defense Forces.

Accordingly, Hamas leadership ordered civilians in northern Gaza to defy the IDF’s advice to “evacuate south for your own safety” in advance of Israel’s ground invasion.

Eyad al-Bozom, a spokesman for Hamas’ interior ministry, encouraged Gaza’s residents to “stay put in your homes and your places.”

To its credit, the Biden administration has called out Hamas for employing a strategy whose essence is the commission of war crimes against the same people Hamas supposedly represents.

National Security Council spokesman John Kirby explained on CNN, “Hamas actually gave a counterorder telling Palestinians in Gaza to stay at home. Why? Because having human shields, they think, protects them.”

Hamas’ use of human shields is not new. Hamas has come close to confessing its exploitation of civilians before.

During an organized 2016 uprising at the Gaza border, Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar admitted the group “decided to turn that which is most dear to us — the bodies of our women and children — into a dam blocking the collapse in Arab reality.”

After acknowledging Hamas builds tunnels to protect fighters but not civilians, Abu Marzouk ventured that it is the job of the United Nations, not Hamas, to protect civilians.

It might have been hard to say that with a straight face, since Hamas also has a long record of turning UN facilities into part of its wall of human shields.

The United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA), whose mission is to provide relief for Palestinians, has repeatedly found stores of Hamas rockets hidden in tunnels beneath its schools.

In 2018, Congress passed the Sanctioning the Use of Civilians as Defenseless Shields Act, which has lain dormant since becoming law.

The Shields Act, which specifically calls out Hamas, requires the president to impose sanctions on individuals determined to be using human shields, but neither Biden nor his predecessor designated any Hamas leaders. Now would be a good time to start.

Doing so is unlikely to change Hamas’ behavior, but it would send an important message both to Americans and leaders in other democratic nations.

It is not Israel but Hamas that bears moral responsibility for the death of civilians in this war.

Hamas seeks to win by generating enough pressure on Israel from its allies to force an end to Israel’s military operations. Washington should make clear it will never fall for this ruse; nor should anyone else.

https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2023/11/01/hamas-officials-admit-its-strategy-is-to-use-palestinian-civilians-as-human-shields/

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