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Apr 21, 2024 12:55:39   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Floyd wrote:
Remember: Do not judge others just because their sins are different from yours.


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Apr 21, 2024 12:56:58   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Longshadow wrote:
In any group there will be a few ornery people.....


Or more than a few. Imagine what it's like living with them.

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Apr 21, 2024 12:59:21   #
BigDaddy Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
 
Blenheim Orange wrote:
Ah, I see we are in the Attic.

Trump is a con man and a criminal, and school shootings are happening, and students are often the perpetrators, and there are many who are arguing that there can be no restrictions on firearms, citing the Constitution in doing so. You may disagree with those positions but they represent expressions of opposition to your politics, not opposition to the country. Argue for your positions openly and honestly if you can. Suggesting that those who oppose you are therefore opposing the country is lazy and dishonest.
Ah, I see we are in the Attic. br br Trump is a c... (show quote)

Balderdash! I don't agree or disagree with all his statements, don't particularly wish to discuss them at all. YOU on the other hand, do.

He specifically said "(a country where children have the Constitutional Right to take guns to school to kill their teacher and other pupils!") That's a direct attack on our constitution and county. Denying that is weird.

As for the 2nd amendment, when I was in high school, kids brought rifles to class for the gun club meetings after school. No one minded, no one got shot. Today guns are no where near schools and kids are getting shot. Guns didn't change, people changed.

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Apr 21, 2024 13:00:42   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
rdemarco52 wrote:
Agree completely. Recently, I suggested to a member planning to visit NYC to be careful as the city has become dangerous. I received a message from the Admin about political comments. Telling a fellow hogger that the place he is planning to visit is dangerous constitutes a political comment?

Yea, that's not "political", simply factual.

There are other places I care not to go to. Not just NYC.

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Apr 21, 2024 13:01:37   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
BigDaddy wrote:
Balderdash! I don't agree or disagree with all his statements, don't particularly wish to discuss them at all. YOU on the other hand, do.

He specifically said "(a country where children have the Constitutional Right to take guns to school to kill their teacher and other pupils!") That's a direct attack on our constitution and county. Denying that is weird.

As for the 2nd amendment, when I was in high school, kids brought rifles to class for the gun club meetings after school. No one minded, no one got shot. Today guns are no where near schools and kids are getting shot. Guns didn't change, people changed.
Balderdash! I don't agree or disagree with all his... (show quote)


Guns didn’t change? I’m pretty sure they weren’t bringing assault rifles.

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Apr 21, 2024 13:07:18   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
Guns didn’t change? I’m pretty sure they weren’t bringing assault rifles.

GUNS didn't change.... PEOPLE did!

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Apr 21, 2024 13:13:19   #
BigDaddy Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
Guns didn’t change? I’m pretty sure they weren’t bringing assault rifles.

Assault weapons were around long before I was in high school. I don't have a clue what rifles the gun clubs were using, but I know the guns were easily capable of killing, but no one was killed. Guns could be deadly then and now. What changed is the people using them.

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Apr 21, 2024 13:22:57   #
fantom Loc: Colorado
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
I’m pretty sure this belongs in Chit-Chat


or in the trash

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Apr 21, 2024 13:33:03   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
BigDaddy wrote:
Assault weapons were around long before I was in high school. I don't have a clue what rifles the gun clubs were using, but I know the guns were easily capable of killing, but no one was killed. Guns could be deadly then and now. What changed is the people using them.


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Apr 21, 2024 13:36:46   #
Blenheim Orange Loc: Michigan
 
Longshadow wrote:
Yea, that's not "political", simply factual.

There are other places I care not to go to. Not just NYC.


That is a myth. Rural areas often have higher crime rates than urban areas, and among urban areas New York is comparatively safe. The endless fear mongering about crime is good for TV ratings and for the campaigns of dishonest politicians, but it does the public a real disservice.

So, yes, the fear mongering about crime, and about cities, is driven by politics and also by commercial interests. It is certainly not "factual."

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Apr 21, 2024 13:41:01   #
RixPix Loc: Miami, Florida
 
JohnR wrote:
Been an interesting few years subscribing to UHH but its become far too vitriolic with members criticizing posts quite unhelpfully simply to boost their own over inflated egos. Suppose its only to be expected though in a country where children have the Constitutional Right to take guns to school to kill their teacher and other pupils! Yes and elect a criminal con merchant as President.

Keep well those who do not fit this profile.

Cheers JohnR


One last attempt at attention-seeking before you go, I see.

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Apr 21, 2024 13:52:42   #
fantom Loc: Colorado
 
BigDaddy wrote:
Assault weapons were around long before I was in high school. I don't have a clue what rifles the gun clubs were using, but I know the guns were easily capable of killing, but no one was killed. Guns could be deadly then and now. What changed is the people using them.


Very good comment but the sad part is that you even have to post it.

Some people are so closed minded and intellectually challenged that they will never understand that people kill people. Guns are inanimate objects with no mind of their own vs...?

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Apr 21, 2024 13:52:42   #
Blenheim Orange Loc: Michigan
 
BigDaddy wrote:
Assault weapons were around long before I was in high school. I don't have a clue what rifles the gun clubs were using, but I know the guns were easily capable of killing, but no one was killed. Guns could be deadly then and now. What changed is the people using them.


I think you are correct. The percentage of people owning guns in the US has stayed remarkably stable over a long period of time. At the same time, the number of guns per capita has increased, and the number of high capacity high velocity weapons on the street has increased. Everyone here on the farms has rifles and shotguns. If only we could thin the deer herd, but that is a topic for another day. Nuisance critters we mostly trap rather than shoot. I question whether or not people who say they need rifles or varmint control actually are farmers. Maybe ranchers?

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Apr 21, 2024 13:59:30   #
jaymatt Loc: Alexandria, Indiana
 
fantom wrote:
Very good comment but the sad part is that you even have to post it.

Some people are so closed minded and intellectually challenged that they will never understand that people kill people. Guns are inanimate objects with no mind of their own vs...?



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Apr 21, 2024 14:02:37   #
Blenheim Orange Loc: Michigan
 
fantom wrote:
Very good comment but the sad part is that you even have to post it.

Some people are so closed minded and intellectually challenged that they will never understand that people kill people. Guns are inanimate objects with no mind of their own vs...?


Well, that is true of nuclear weapons, poison gas, flame throwers, rocket launchers, etc., as well. Of course people kill people. No one says otherwise. Automobiles don't kill and maim people, people maim and kill people. Should we toss out all of the laws and regulations governing the use of automobiles? Airplanes are inanimate objects with no mind of their own. I guess we don't need any safety regulations or air traffic control.

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