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Apr 18, 2024 22:06:59   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
btbg wrote:
Hamas did not just get weapons from Hamas.


Where did that come from ? Try reading what you quoted

Quote:

Iranian generals planned the attack and gave the go ahead.


Source please and I hope it something more reliable than Netanyahu.

Wrap your warped mind around this

“” After more than six months of intense bombing in the Gaza Strip, more than 13,800 children have reportedly been killed, thousands have been injured and thousands more are on the brink of famine.
“”

Are you ok with that ?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/unicefusa/2024/04/18/unicef-helps-gazas-children-cope-with-trauma/

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Apr 18, 2024 22:33:09   #
btbg
 
Texcaster wrote:
So the GOPers are correct in their Trump/Orban 'Bugger Ukraine' imperative to appease Putin? Got it.


Nobody wants to appease Putin. We have way over 30 trillion on debt. We do not have the money to help anyone until we get our own house in order.

We should be helping Ukraine at the same level the rest of NATO is, no more. Arent you one of the peoole who were saying a couple years ago that America should not be the worlds policemen? One of the few things I thought we agreed on.

Biden has given Iran access to billions of dollars to help fund terrorism and they completely ignored his threat avout them not attacking Israel, and Bidens oil policy has helped Russia not to mention it is Hunter Biden that Russians gave millions of dollars to and you still are supporting the moron in cheif.

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Apr 18, 2024 22:37:31   #
btbg
 
DennyT wrote:
Source please and I hope it something more reliable than Netanyahu.

Wrap your warped mind around this

“” After more than six months of intense bombing in the Gaza Strip, more than 13,800 children have reportedly been killed, thousands have been injured and thousands more are on the brink of famine.
“”

Are you ok with that ?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/unicefusa/2024/04/18/unicef-helps-gazas-children-cope-with-trauma/


Get a clue. You are taking the word of Hamas as to how many children have been killed just like you took the word of Hamas avout Israel bombing a hospital which was ckearly false. If Hamas does not want any civilian casualties then they need to quit hiding among civilians.

I dont like to see anyone killed but if you think ok with what Hamas did you are nuts. Hamas must be eradicated and as long as they hide among civilians there will be deaths, so, yeah Im ok with it.

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Apr 18, 2024 23:02:46   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
btbg wrote:
Nobody wants to appease Putin. We have way over 30 trillion on debt. We do not have the money to help anyone until we get our own house in order.

We should be helping Ukraine at the same level the rest of NATO is, no more. Arent you one of the peoole who were saying a couple years ago that America should not be the worlds policemen? One of the few things I thought we agreed on.

Biden has given Iran access to billions of dollars to help fund terrorism and they completely ignored his threat avout them not attacking Israel, and Bidens oil policy has helped Russia not to mention it is Hunter Biden that Russians gave millions of dollars to and you still are supporting the moron in cheif.
Nobody wants to appease Putin. We have way over 30... (show quote)


I'm against optional US wars/invasions re: Bush's expensive Iraq blunder that allowed Iran 20 years to focus their Trillions on exporting terrorism once Iraq was no longer an obstacle. Thwarting Putin's ambitions in Europe is not optional. Trump's encouraging of Putin to bugger NATO states as he see fit is a disgraceful precedent for a US presidential candidate/criminal defendant.

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Apr 18, 2024 23:07:59   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
btbg wrote:
Get a clue. You are taking the word of Hamas as to how many children have been killed just like you took the word of Hamas avout Israel bombing a hospital which was ckearly false. If Hamas does not want any civilian casualties then they need to quit hiding among civilians.

I dont like to see anyone killed but if you think ok with what Hamas did you are nuts. Hamas must be eradicated and as long as they hide among civilians there will be deaths, so, yeah Im ok with it.





Those numbers are Palestinian numbers NOT Hamas


“‘Yeah I am. Ok with it”

Says a lot about you .

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Apr 18, 2024 23:42:13   #
btbg
 
DennyT wrote:
Those numbers are Palestinian numbers NOT Hamas


“‘Yeah I am. Ok with it”

Says a lot about you .


Hamasbis Palistine. That is what youbare not grasoing. More than 70 percent of Palistine voted for Hamas and they supported the attack on israel on October 7.

Yes it says a lot about me. It says I support Israel. It saysbI do not believe tje Palastinians since tjey support Hamas. It says that when cowards hide behind women and children and when theybstill hold 140 hostagesbincluding at leadt 5 Americans they must be stopped.

If you have a way to get rid of Hamas withoutb ivilian casualties I'm all ears. But all you want is for Israel to capitulate appearently.

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Apr 18, 2024 23:44:56   #
btbg
 
Texcaster wrote:
I'm against optional US wars/invasions re: Bush's expensive Iraq blunder that allowed Iran 20 years to focus their Trillions on exporting terrorism once Iraq was no longer an obstacle. Thwarting Putin's ambitions in Europe is not optional. Trump's encouraging of Putin to bugger NATO states as he see fit is a disgraceful precedent for a US presidential candidate/criminal defendant.


Trump didnt encourage Putin, Trump pushed NATO to pay what they comitted to pay, which they should.
So let me get this straight you are opposed to the U.S. fighting a war but you are good with them funding a war. Does that make any sense?

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Apr 19, 2024 03:36:32   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
btbg wrote:
Trump didnt encourage Putin, Trump pushed NATO to pay what they comitted to pay, which they should.
So let me get this straight you are opposed to the U.S. fighting a war but you are good with them funding a war. Does that make any sense?


I said I'm opposed to "optional" US wars/invasions and that appeasing Putin's Euro aggression is not optional.
DJT - "I would encourage Russia to do whatever the hell they wanted to you".

Trump says he would encourage Russia to attack Nato allies who pay too little
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/feb/11/donald-trump-says-he-would-encourage-russia-to-attack-nato-countries-who-dont-pay-bills

" ... The Joe Biden White House immediately rebuked the former president’s comments, saying in a statement: “Encouraging invasions of our closest allies by murderous regimes is appalling and unhinged – and it endangers American national security, global stability, and our economy at home.”

Jens Stoltenberg, Nato’s secretary-general, also lambasted Trump’s comments. “Nato remains ready and able to defend all allies,” Stoltenberg said in a statement.

“Any suggestion that allies will not defend each other undermines all of our security, including that of the US, and puts American and European soldiers at increased risk. I expect that regardless of who wins the presidential election the US will remain a strong and committed Nato ally.”

On the other hand, the former Republican New Jersey governor Chris Christie said he thought it was “right for a president to say to a Nato member, ‘Hey, you’ve got to pay the dues you need to pay’.

“But the problem with Donald Trump is he can’t just stop there,” Christie said on Sunday on NBC’s Meet the Press. “He’s got to say, ‘I would encourage Russia to do whatever the hell they wanted to you’. That is absolutely inappropriate for a president of the United States or a candidate for president of the United States to be saying.”

Christie argued that Trump’s comments about Russia were consistent with his “love” for the Russian leader, Vladimir Putin, and other dictators. ... "

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Apr 19, 2024 06:36:32   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
btbg wrote:
Nobody wants to appease Putin. We have way over 30 trillion on debt. We do not have the money to help anyone until we get our own house in order.

We should be helping Ukraine at the same level the rest of NATO is, no more. Arent you one of the peoole who were saying a couple years ago that America should not be the worlds policemen? One of the few things I thought we agreed on.

Biden has given Iran access to billions of dollars to help fund terrorism and they completely ignored his threat avout them not attacking Israel, and Bidens oil policy has helped Russia not to mention it is Hunter Biden that Russians gave millions of dollars to and you still are supporting the moron in cheif.
Nobody wants to appease Putin. We have way over 30... (show quote)

Out of what left field news source did you find your alleged information that President Biden has given Iran access to billions of dollars?

What backs up your allegation that President Biden's oil policy has helped Russia?

And where did you get the information to back up your allegation that Hunter Biden got millions of dollars from Russia?

I thought that you trump cultists had been pushing Ukraine and China as the alleged sources of money "flowing" to the Bidens.

You really do need to get your stories straight!

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Apr 19, 2024 07:25:28   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
btbg wrote:
Trump didnt encourage Putin, Trump pushed NATO to pay what they comitted to pay, which they should.
So let me get this straight you are opposed to the U.S. fighting a war but you are good with them funding a war. Does that make any sense?

You need to get your facts straight.

The FACT that trump CHOSE to side with Putin in Helsinki on June 16, 2018 over US intelligence was the second visible sign that trump was siding with Russia and Putin.

The first visible sign was when trump tossed out his interpreter and everyone else from the meeting in the Oval Office with the Russian Foreign Minister, Sergey Lavrov, and the Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak on, I believe it was, May 10, 2017, where trump revealed highly classified information to the Russians.

No matter how hard you try to gloss over what trump tried to do to NATO, trump has been pushing to withdraw the United States from the NATO Agreement.

What does NATO stand for? Here's a little light reading for you to educate yourself with.

https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/126169.htm#:~:text=Collective%20defence%3A%20The%20North%20Atlantic,and%20territory%20of%20its%20members.

NATO came to the defense of the United States on September 11, 2001 when we were attacked by foreing operatives.

The only time that NATO troops have been activated to protect a member nation is when the United States was attacked on September 11, 2001!

https://www.911memorial.org/learn/resources/digital-exhibitions/digital-exhibition-revealed-hunt-bin-laden/international-community-responds

So seeing that the United States received the benefit of NATO protection after 9-11, do you really still think that we should pull out of NATO, and leave Putin to invade and conquer all of the previous USSR countries, then push into the rest of Europe?

Let's not forget that Russia is also looking at taking Alaska back. Did you miss the recent detections of Russian aircraft near Alaska?

https://www.norad.mil/Newsroom/Press-Releases/Article/3668458/norad-detects-russian-aircraft-operating-in-the-alaskan-adiz/#:~:text=%E2%80%93%20The%20North%20American%20Aerospace%20Defense,American%20or%20Canadian%20sovereign%20airspace.

Where would you draw the line and say that Putin and Russia have gone too far in their intended land grabs?

Russia CHOSE to invade a sovereign country in a land grab.

Putin is desperately trying to put the USSR back together before he either loses power, or dies.

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Apr 19, 2024 07:42:07   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
DennyT wrote:
As far as direct attacks did not Israel start it by bombing the Iranian embassy in Syria?


who do you think supports Hamas,no matter where their embassy is?? why do you continue to support Hamas??
yeh, right, Israel startet it!! SMH

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Apr 19, 2024 08:36:29   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
wilpharm wrote:
who do you think supports Hamas,no matter where their embassy is?? why do you continue to support Hamas??
yeh, right, Israel startet it!! SMH


13,800 dead kids under 10 years old.

You ok with that ? You sick s••••• !

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Apr 19, 2024 09:09:25   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
btbg wrote:
No. You forget that Hamas gets their equipment and military orders from Iran. Iran started this with the attack on Israel on Oct. 7.


whoosh..right over lildenny, the hamas supporter's head..per usual

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Apr 19, 2024 09:10:05   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
DennyT wrote:
13,800 dead kids under 10 years old.

You ok with that ? You sick s••••• !


why do you support hamas..you sick f...k??? Iranian ties?? Were you a protester at Columbia Univ??

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Apr 19, 2024 09:18:33   #
McKinneyMike Loc: Texas
 
btbg wrote:
Trump didnt encourage Putin, Trump pushed NATO to pay what they comitted to pay, which they should.
So let me get this straight you are opposed to the U.S. fighting a war but you are good with them funding a war. Does that make any sense?


Did you not watch the Helsinki press conference when Trump walks out from behind the curtain and states that he believes Putin over his National Intelligence! My God where/when have you heard Trump EVER say anything against Putin? I am serious! The public butt kissing of Putin along with Kim, Orban, etc by Trump whenever he talks about them all is all most would ever need to see to know where Trump stands, and it is in no way anti-dictators!

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