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Apr 18, 2024 13:44:16   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
GVC48507 wrote:
I am thinking of replacing my Tamron 150-600 Di VC lens. I have a Nikon D7000 and a new Z7ii. I have been very happy with the Tamron it works well on the D7000, BUT it does not auto focus on the Z7ii. As best as I can find it is the firmware/software on the lens and cannot be updated. I love the Z7ii and the focusing capabilities. I am thinking of the Nikon's F mount 200-500 f/5.6 E ED (used it can be had for 900 range at MBP) or the Z mount 180-600 f/5.6-6.3 VR (new 1,700 no used listed that I have found). I have the F to Z adapter. I have been happy with my past used purchases from the usual suspects (KEH, B&H). I have a few F mount lens those that autofocus work with the F2Z adapter and work on the Z7ii. I have two Z mount lenses 24-120 and the 105, both are S lenses and have to me outstanding image quality. I would be using this lens for birds and other nature photos. If you have either or both which do you think has the best image quality and would be my best option?
I am thinking of replacing my Tamron 150-600 Di VC... (show quote)


I had that Tamron lens when I got my Z7 and traded it in on a used 200-500 for the same reason. I sold my D500 and added a Z9. I used the adapted 200-500 for a while, until the 189-600 came out. I’ve been using it since September. If you intend to use it on both bodies the 200-500 is a nice lens, but there is no comparison. The 180-600 is sharper, faster focus, internal zoom so better balance, weathersealed. It’s just a better lens. I’m actually selling my 200-500 today. In my opinion, if I had a Z7II I would never use a D7000 for wildlife anyway so I’d go for the Z mount lens.

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Apr 18, 2024 13:53:55   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
b top gun wrote:
I had a Tamron 150-600 first generation, bought it to use on my D7100. My experience with that lens, it was slow to lock focus, it liked to wander and maybe only half the shots I got were not soft or not out of focus. Finally dumped it. Because I now have a Z8 and still have the D850, I have been debating with myself as to whether I want to Nikkor 180-600 or the Nikkor 100-400 and get a 1.4x teleconverter to use with the 100-400 when I want a little more reach. The 100-400 would replace my 70-200 f/2.8 Nikkor, not that I would sell off the 70-200, just mount it on the D850 when needed. I do not do much wildlife photography, and a not sure I NEED a lens that goes beyond 200 mm; I can always rent something rather than purchase one.
I had a Tamron 150-600 first generation, bought it... (show quote)


Before the 189-600 came out I found that I preferred using the 100-400 with the 1.4 TC to the 200-500 even though it put me at f/9. I did get the 180-600 and I love it, but if you don’t do a lot of wildlife the 100-400 w/the 1.4 TC is a workable option, albeit at f/9. Even though the 189-600 is my goto wildlife lens now I still use the 100-400 quite a bit. It’s a very flexible lens. It has almost macro close focus ability and I find it ideal for places like gardens where it can get close enough for bugs on flowers and give enough reach for birds and dragonflies.

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Apr 18, 2024 14:02:23   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
photoman43 wrote:
I shoot with Nikon glass on my Z9 and have no personal experience with Tamron glass.

Brad Hill recommends the Tamron Z 150-500mm F5-6.7 Di III VC VXD at his blog:

http://www.naturalart.ca/voice/blog.html

See what he says about Nikon and Tamron glass in his blog postings around Dec 2023 and 2024.

If I were you I would consider getting the Nikon 180-600mm Z mount lens for your Z7ii.

Based on just specs, unless there is not enough light, I think your current Tamron lens with the FTZ adapter ought to AF on your Z7ii.
I shoot with Nikon glass on my Z9 and have no pers... (show quote)


It has nothing to do with light. The Z7II will focus in lower light than any F mount body. The issue is the firmware. For the G2 version of the lens you can update it to work with the FTZ adapter. You can’t update the firmware on the original version of that lens. It’s possible that there might be an update, but those older lenses need to be sent to Tamron to be updated.

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Apr 18, 2024 14:51:01   #
ecobin Loc: Paoli, PA
 
The z-mount 180-600mm is a fantastic lens. I'd get that.

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Apr 18, 2024 15:43:52   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
GVC48507 wrote:
I am thinking of replacing my Tamron 150-600 Di VC lens. I have a Nikon D7000 and a new Z7ii. I have been very happy with the Tamron it works well on the D7000, BUT it does not auto focus on the Z7ii. As best as I can find it is the firmware/software on the lens and cannot be updated. I love the Z7ii and the focusing capabilities. I am thinking of the Nikon's F mount 200-500 f/5.6 E ED (used it can be had for 900 range at MBP) or the Z mount 180-600 f/5.6-6.3 VR (new 1,700 no used listed that I have found). I have the F to Z adapter. I have been happy with my past used purchases from the usual suspects (KEH, B&H). I have a few F mount lens those that autofocus work with the F2Z adapter and work on the Z7ii. I have two Z mount lenses 24-120 and the 105, both are S lenses and have to me outstanding image quality. I would be using this lens for birds and other nature photos. If you have either or both which do you think has the best image quality and would be my best option?
I am thinking of replacing my Tamron 150-600 Di VC... (show quote)

Just a heads up regarding your use of the term superzoom. While some people do refer to a long zoom lens as a superzoom, generally the term refers to a zoom lens with a wide focal range going from wide angle to telephoto. A crop sensor example would be the Tamron 18-400mm and for full frame the new Nikon 28-400.

The only reason I mention it is because the title of your thread might suggest that you are referring to a true superzoom type lens. That might cause some people to bypass your thread all together since in general superzoom lenses have been mostly designed for crop sensors and often have a number of optical compromises. Still others might decide to read your thread believing that the subject was in fact wide focal range superzooms. I did not intend this as a criticism of your naming of the thread, merely an observation.

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Apr 18, 2024 16:09:25   #
tetherington
 
I have the Sigma i:5-6.3 DG. Works perfectly on my Z7ii with the Nikon adapter.

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Apr 18, 2024 16:47:06   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
Super Zoom

A superzoom or ultrazoom lens is a type of photographic zoom lens with unconventionally large focal length factors, typically ranging from wide angle to extreme long lens focal lengths in one lens.

You can read a little more here.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superzoom#:~:text=A%20superzoom%20or%20ultrazoom%20lens,focal%20lengths%20in%20one%20lens.

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Apr 18, 2024 17:48:52   #
rcorne001 Loc: Cary, NC
 
GVC48507 wrote:
I am thinking of replacing my Tamron 150-600 Di VC lens. I have a Nikon D7000 and a new Z7ii. I have been very happy with the Tamron it works well on the D7000, BUT it does not auto focus on the Z7ii. ...?


Have you considered RENTING the lenses you are considering to see how they fit your style of photography? The money you spend might prove to be well worth it especially if it keeps you from spending money on something you end up not liking. Personally, I use Lensrentals, but I am sure others could chip in with recommendations as well.

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Apr 19, 2024 01:27:34   #
chrisg-optical Loc: New York, NY
 
GVC48507 wrote:
I am thinking of replacing my Tamron 150-600 Di VC lens. I have a Nikon D7000 and a new Z7ii. I have been very happy with the Tamron it works well on the D7000, BUT it does not auto focus on the Z7ii. As best as I can find it is the firmware/software on the lens and cannot be updated. I love the Z7ii and the focusing capabilities. I am thinking of the Nikon's F mount 200-500 f/5.6 E ED (used it can be had for 900 range at MBP) or the Z mount 180-600 f/5.6-6.3 VR (new 1,700 no used listed that I have found). I have the F to Z adapter. I have been happy with my past used purchases from the usual suspects (KEH, B&H). I have a few F mount lens those that autofocus work with the F2Z adapter and work on the Z7ii. I have two Z mount lenses 24-120 and the 105, both are S lenses and have to me outstanding image quality. I would be using this lens for birds and other nature photos. If you have either or both which do you think has the best image quality and would be my best option?
I am thinking of replacing my Tamron 150-600 Di VC... (show quote)


Probably the best choice is the Z 180-600 if money is not an issue, otherwise a used Tamron 150-600 **G2** lens will work on the Z7ii (I have both via the FTZii). HOWEVER, you should also get the Tap-In console to make sure the firmware is updated in the lens - also make sure the Z7ii has the latest firmware too. The F 200-500 lens is excellent too.

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Apr 19, 2024 01:52:07   #
Real Nikon Lover Loc: Simi Valley, CA
 
I have both the 200-500 and the 180-600. I bought the 200-500 for my D850. I then bought the Z9. When the 180-600 came out I bought it. I have shot both lenses on the Z9. IMHO the 180-600 outperformed the 200-500 hands down. Then benefit is the wider range in focal lengths. That extra 100mm comes in handy.

I anticipate Nikon may provide additional firmware updates to the Z cameras and the 180-600 lens that may add value to going with the Z lens.

Best of successful decisions and happy shooting.

Jim

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Apr 19, 2024 09:04:42   #
RoswellAlien
 
Yes, the f mount 200-500 is Heavy, especially on an 850, but it’s great. I have the 1.4 extender which I use occasionally and the FtoZ for a Z7ii. But the big lens just feels better on the heavier body. As has been said by others, I’ve always stuck with Nikon glass.
Sure you have two sets, but it works, I’m used to both and happy - the last part means a lot.
Enjoy! That’s what it’s all about anyway.

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Apr 19, 2024 11:01:18   #
Retired CPO Loc: Travel full time in an RV
 
billnikon wrote:
Nikon's F mount 200-500 f/5.6 E ED, it's the only lens you will need



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Apr 19, 2024 16:14:55   #
Knsh55a Loc: MN
 
If it is possible to update the firmware of the lens - that might fix your focusing issue. I had a Tamron 150-600 mm G2 that gave an error on my Z9. Using a Tamron Tap-in to update it - fixed the problem for me.

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Apr 20, 2024 15:59:07   #
GVC48507 Loc: Michigan
 
I would like to thank everybody for their insights and suggestions. Last night I saw Nikon has a sale on refurbished lenses, sadly not on the 180-600. I'm going to pull the trigger and get Nikon's 200-500 its a shorter reach but higher IQ than what I have now. I'll avoid the long wait time and I'll save some money in the short term over the 180-600. In a couple of years I'll revisit my decision, hopefully the 180-600 will be available on the used market.

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Apr 21, 2024 16:00:32   #
Drbobcameraguy Loc: Eaton Ohio
 
GVC48507 wrote:
I am thinking of replacing my Tamron 150-600 Di VC lens. I have a Nikon D7000 and a new Z7ii. I have been very happy with the Tamron it works well on the D7000, BUT it does not auto focus on the Z7ii. As best as I can find it is the firmware/software on the lens and cannot be updated. I love the Z7ii and the focusing capabilities. I am thinking of the Nikon's F mount 200-500 f/5.6 E ED (used it can be had for 900 range at MBP) or the Z mount 180-600 f/5.6-6.3 VR (new 1,700 no used listed that I have found). I have the F to Z adapter. I have been happy with my past used purchases from the usual suspects (KEH, B&H). I have a few F mount lens those that autofocus work with the F2Z adapter and work on the Z7ii. I have two Z mount lenses 24-120 and the 105, both are S lenses and have to me outstanding image quality. I would be using this lens for birds and other nature photos. If you have either or both which do you think has the best image quality and would be my best option?
I am thinking of replacing my Tamron 150-600 Di VC... (show quote)


There is only one sharp super zoom. Sigma 300-800mm f5.6 constant aperture. I have one and use it with my d500. Amazing lens.

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