Triple G

Despite what you might want, I will always call out the AH's whose intent is to inflict pain.

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

As a general rule we do not bring up family members here in The Attic. If they are not members they don't deserve to be here or spoken of.

Dennis

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

Do NOT go there.

Dennis

jcboy3

It is a logically consistent statement. You obviously have little regard for women or personal autonomy.

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

And you OBVIOUSLY are a liar. Not once have I ever spoke of little regard for women or personal autonomy. Point out where I have said that. I am all for abortion but with a limited time to have it done. Where is your opinion different than mine on that issue. You on the Left constantly attack me and other Conservatives with outright bullshit F'd up lies regarding the abortion issue.

I have pointed out women should bear some responsibility on abortion such as using birth control. Do your opinion differ from mine in that regard? Why? Why shouldn't women use some sort of birth control IF they do not want to get pregnant. Birth control methods are all around us and as has been pointed out here a few times can be free. Why would a woman not use them? Any idea how many women have had multiple abortions? No, I have no idea but if it is quite a few then there is something wrong with that woman wouldn't you think? Can you be honest for once and speak to the issue rather than attacking me or other Conservatives. Can you agree women should share some responsibility since as you tell us it is their body. Yes men also share responsibility as well but shouldn't that be between the man and women prior to having sex? Shouldn't the woman ensure the man is using birth control or not have sex to begin with? After that you on the Left tell us the man has no say in what happens to the baby. You have then dismissed the man from the equation haven't you? What if he wants to have the baby and will take care of it? He isn't allowed to do that is he?

So tell me/us where your opinion differs do much from mine. Do you really expect Conservatives who care about the fetus/baby to allow the woman to carry the baby full term and THEN decide to kill it? Where is your cut off point?

Dennis

Triple G

I read only your last statement and know the whole rant is false based on that. Get your facts straight about what anyone wants as allowable under law. Very few abortions are done after 20 weeks and none at full term or post birth. Isn't that what you just said you are for?

https://www.kff.org/womens-health-policy/issue-brief/abortions-later-in-pregnancy-in-a-post-dobbs-era/

Men are 100% responsible for babies; why not attack their reproductive rights? The MAGA's march to make contraceptive options and IVF options illegal is going to have significant adverse effects to their electability.

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

How typical of you on the Left who just want to cry and whine like little babies. I offered to discuss and you give me lies and bullshit stating what I posted was false. What are the false parts? If you have followed my comments on abortion for a few years you will see my opinion has not wavered in the least.

AGAIN I ask what is your opinion on how long before a fetus can be aborted and you refuse to answer. AGAIN you simply want to whine and cry and call me names saying I am lying.

Men are 100% responsible for babies you tell us. Now how the Fk can that be. What do men do, masturbate into a sock and then put the sock in a microwave and miraculously a baby appears? Yes that is somewhat gross but not anywhere near as ridiculous as your idiotic point of men being 100% responsible for babies. Talk about your basic maroon thought process from the Left.

Dennis

Triple G

You are saying that abortions happen routinely during late term pregnancies. That is a big fat lie as supported by article from Kaiser.

You have listed your beliefs which I've confirmed as what most people want. So what's your point exactly?

Women are 100% responsible for pregnancies also, but MAGA is attacking their reproductive rights by wanting to outlaw contraceptives and IVF. To be equal, MAGA should promote laws to outlaw vasectomies, condoms, and ED meds.

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

I NEVER said that at all. Damn you are one huge LIAR. Point out where I said that.

I ASKED what your feelings were and did you think late term abortions were acceptable; no not in those exact words if you are going to be idiotically picky.

Are you EVER capable of carrying on a discussion or does your foolishness run to the Nth degree all the time?

Dennis

Triple G

Intellectual and relevant conversation is an impossibility with you.

MAGA are using a false premise against liberals. The laws of the land have never allowed late term abortions and most people, including liberals, are in sync with that. Any discussions with that (your) premise are dishonest.

Frank T Loc: New York, NY

If you truly want an answer for that, you need to define what you believe is "late-term".
The previous guidelines in most states were "point of viability" which means, at the point where the baby can survive outside the womb. This is almost universally accepted by science as 21 weeks.
There would still need to be an exception for saving the life of the mother.
Please understand that there is no such thing as post-birth abortions. Regardless of what the Orange Menace has told you, there is nowhere in the United States or in the civilized world where a baby that is born can be murdered.
Perhaps you need some time to read up on these things so that you can respond in an intelligent and civilized manner.
We'll wait.

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

No Shit francine. Yes I am aware of all that. If you were paying attention and were not an ass you would have noticed I ASKED what his ideas were, his opinions. I was seeking a discussion but instead I was called a liar. Sorry but I have no more time to discuss since he decided to take it to the farthest step up the ladder of discourse. Now if you have any speck of honesty rather than being a Left Wing ASS you will also note my intentions to discuss. If not then so be it.

Dennis

Frank T Loc: New York, NY

So I gave you something to discuss and you quickly attack me.
It's sad that you've decided to be ignorant.
Have a blessed day and pray to the invisible man as often as possible.

Triple G

Because you lied. I am adding this instance to a list of your lies for the next time you ask for one.

How is that you only now see consequences of calling people liars??? That's just beyond hypocritical. Now, add what the reactions would be when someone is falsely accused.

One rule for dennis and dennis-made rules for others is why there is no such thing as discourse or conversation with you. You are dishonest from the beginning.

Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.

Well, even Bill Maher suggests that abortion is murder.....

"Bill Maher addressed abortion on this week's edition of 'Real Time' on HBO: "That's why I don't understand the 15-week thing or Trump's plan is to leave it to the states. You mean, so killing babies is okay in some states? I can respect the absolutist position, I really can. I scold the left when they say 'Oh, you know what, they just hate women,' people who aren't pro-choice. They don’t hate women. They just made that up. They think it’s murder. And it kind of is. I’m just okay with that. I am. I mean there's 8 billion people in the world. I'm sorry, we won't miss you. That's my position on that. Is that not your position if you're pro-choice? You said you're pro-choice, that's your position too."