Amateur photographer needing sports lens
Apr 11, 2024 10:58:59 #
CHG_CANON wrote:
With a full-frame EOS 6Dii, you'll probably want a lens that can get you to around 400mm to 'reach' midfield for soccer, football, similar. You can do with a 2x mounted to a used EF 70-200 f/2.8L IS II. You can find this lens at KEH.com today around $1000 with EX rating. Use the balance for a used copy of the Canon 2X EF Extender III Teleconverter.
Good morning Paul,
Just one question, what makes a lens a "full frame" lens.
Thanks.
Apr 11, 2024 11:44:06 #
M1911
Loc: DFW Metromess
lindmike wrote:
Good morning Paul,
Just one question, what makes a lens a "full frame" lens.
Thanks.
Just one question, what makes a lens a "full frame" lens.
Thanks.
A full frame lens has an image circle that is larger than the sensor of a full frame camera. A lens for a crop sensor has a smaller image circle.
Apr 11, 2024 11:44:12 #
lbyrdee
Loc: Proctorville, Ohio
Wow thanks for advice, comments, banter, etc. It helped me make a decision. We are in baseball and softball season as well as track. I take high school and middle having grandsons at both schools. I’m going with the canon 70-200 2.8. I may consider that Tamron later. I have a small older Tamron lens I used with my Rebels, but it’s seen better days. Thanks again. So glad I joined👍
Apr 11, 2024 11:56:28 #
M1911 wrote:
A full frame lens has an image circle that is larger than the sensor of a full frame camera. A lens for a crop sensor has a smaller image circle.
Thanks for your reply
Apr 11, 2024 11:58:40 #
Apr 11, 2024 12:06:00 #
lindmike wrote:
So, using a full frame lens on a smaller sensor would be wasting lens space, so to speak.
No, not really. There are several advantages to full frame lenses. The biggest advantage is that if you ever switch to a full frame camera you would not need to pirchase new lenses. They also tend to be heavier built, which is a good thing for those of us who tend to be hard on equipment. In additiion the majority, if not all professional lenses are full frame unless they have been made for a system such as a micro 4/3 that has a different mount then the full frame and crop sensor cameras. The only advantage I know of for purchasing a lens that is designed for a crop sensor camera is you can probably find a lens that costs less and weighs less.
Apr 11, 2024 13:32:55 #
lbyrdee
Loc: Proctorville, Ohio
I have a Canon 300 mm prime lens which is great for soccer or football when I’m in the stands. But with baseball I oftentimes take pics from the dugout and enjoy taking pics of the guys in the dugout, coming off the field or the play at third base and the prime is too close and not versatile enough. It is really heavy for a 70-yr old grandma but I adjusted.
Apr 11, 2024 13:38:58 #
lbyrdee wrote:
I have a Canon 300 mm prime lens which is great for soccer or football when I’m in the stands. But with baseball I oftentimes take pics from the dugout and enjoy taking pics of the guys in the dugout, coming off the field or the play at third base and the prime is too close and not versatile enough. It is really heavy for a 70-yr old grandma but I adjusted.
Since you already have a 300 prime you probably do not need a 2x converter, but a 1.4 could make the 300 into a 420 prime, which would give you a lot of reach. I think going with a 70-200 is a good choice and it will weigh at least a little less that your 300 prime. Is that a 300 f4?
Apr 11, 2024 14:46:51 #
Apr 11, 2024 15:24:04 #
lbyrdee wrote:
I have a Canon 300 mm prime lens which is great for soccer or football when I’m in the stands. But with baseball I oftentimes take pics from the dugout and enjoy taking pics of the guys in the dugout, coming off the field or the play at third base and the prime is too close and not versatile enough. It is really heavy for a 70-yr old grandma but I adjusted.
Depending on the 300mm prime, it may be extendable, maybe not, with your EOS body. As you noted, the 300mm 'reach' is great for distant subjects, but too long for close-up. The 70-200 idea gives more versatility.
Apr 11, 2024 16:08:28 #
lbyrdee
Loc: Proctorville, Ohio
It’s a 300mm 1:4 L IS. Boy I would love this prime to go further, especially with football! My pics are better earlier in the season because of available light. With the progression of the Fall season, I lose the light fairly early and our stadium is old and outdated with insufficient field lights. I continually adjust my settings and do occasionally get a good pic but always delete a bunch. I’ll research this 2x converter. I am not familiar with it but will enjoy learning about it.
Apr 11, 2024 16:15:37 #
lbyrdee wrote:
It’s a 300mm 1:4 L IS. Boy I would love this prime to go further, especially with football! My pics are better earlier in the season because of available light. With the progression of the Fall season, I lose the light fairly early and our stadium is old and outdated with insufficient field lights. I continually adjust my settings and do occasionally get a good pic but always delete a bunch. I’ll research this 2x converter. I am not familiar with it but will enjoy learning about it.
I’d certainly also consider the 1.4x EXII or III as well - only 420mm but also only 1 stop of light lost (f5.6) vs 2 stops and f6.8 for the EX 2.0 if low light can be an issue for you. Both are compatible with your 300mm f4
Apr 11, 2024 16:22:41 #
lbyrdee wrote:
It’s a 300mm 1:4 L IS. Boy I would love this prime to go further, especially with football! My pics are better earlier in the season because of available light. With the progression of the Fall season, I lose the light fairly early and our stadium is old and outdated with insufficient field lights. I continually adjust my settings and do occasionally get a good pic but always delete a bunch. I’ll research this 2x converter. I am not familiar with it but will enjoy learning about it.
I'd say the same as TriX, above. The 1.4x will 'extend' that lens to an effective 420mm for your camera model. I'd go with a used vIII model if you pursue that idea. Alas, you 'lose' a stop of light with this extender version, making f/5.6 the max available aperture. I'd want to confirm your camera can auto focus at f/8 before buying (or renting) the 2x model.
Apr 11, 2024 19:58:37 #
Apr 11, 2024 21:10:28 #
imagemeister wrote:
Both extenders will SLOW your AF
Dude, give it a rest. With the 1.4 converter her 300f4 will be a 420f5.6, the lens you are recommending is a 400 6.3, so the slowed af will still be faster than the Tamron.
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