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Making a Disk Image
Apr 11, 2024 09:49:36   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
I'm new to this, and I'm not sure I'll continue doing it. I haven't needed an image since I began using computers back in the days of the Apple lle.

I used EaseUS ToDo to make an image backup of C. That took almost two hours for about 230GB from an M.2 to an external HDD. Three days later, I did an Incremental backup, and that took almost an hour and a half. Does that sound right? I thought the incremental would go a lot quicker.

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Apr 11, 2024 10:37:03   #
BebuLamar
 
I made disk image but do not make the incremental backup. The image is used to bring the computer back to the condition when the image was made.

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Apr 11, 2024 10:44:25   #
charles tabb Loc: Richmond VA.
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I'm new to this, and I'm not sure I'll continue doing it. I haven't needed an image since I began using computers back in the days of the Apple lle.

I used EaseUS ToDo to make an image backup of C. That took almost two hours for about 230GB from an M.2 to an external HDD. Three days later, I did an Incremental backup, and that took almost an hour and a half. Does that sound right? I thought the incremental would go a lot quicker.


Jerry
I have a son who is an IT for a very large Hospital here.
He set me up with a Dell PC with two 20 TB Hard drives. He used a system called "Raid". The way it works is when I wright to one drive it also wright's to the other. So, if one drive goes bad I simply remove the bad drive and replace it with a new one which automatically backs up from the other one. I also have another external drive in which he has all of my picture files backed up on it also. I haven't been able to feel un-safe as yet with his setup.

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Apr 11, 2024 10:57:35   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
charles tabb wrote:
Jerry
I have a son who is an IT for a very large Hospital here.
He set me up with a Dell PC with two 20 TB Hard drives. He used a system called "Raid". The way it works is when I wright to one drive it also wright's to the other. So, if one drive goes bad I simply remove the bad drive and replace it with a new one which automatically backs up from the other one. I also have another external drive in which he has all of my picture files backed up on it also. I haven't been able to feel un-safe as yet with his setup.
Jerry br I have a son who is an IT for a very larg... (show quote)


Yes, RAID is very good. Most NAS systems use that. There will be an even number if disks, with half being backups, and the other half being backups of the backups.

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Apr 11, 2024 21:27:55   #
JoeBiker Loc: homebase: Houston, TX
 
I haven't used EaseUS ToDo, but that is much much slower than Macrium Reflect would be. (still sticking with the free version but I need to find an alternative since free version of MR is no longer being updated)

There are a lot of things to check... To start, use CrystalDiskMark, or similar, to test the speed writing to your USB HDD.

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Apr 12, 2024 06:26:03   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
JoeBiker wrote:
I haven't used EaseUS ToDo, but that is much much slower than Macrium Reflect would be. (still sticking with the free version but I need to find an alternative since free version of MR is no longer being updated)

There are a lot of things to check... To start, use CrystalDiskMark, or similar, to test the speed writing to your USB HDD.


The first image maker I tried was going to take over a dozen hours.

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Apr 12, 2024 10:05:22   #
Schoee Loc: Europe
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Yes, RAID is very good. Most NAS systems use that. There will be an even number if disks, with half being backups, and the other half being backups of the backups.


No. Not necessarily even number also different RAID configurations. Look it up on Wikipedia. Stands for redundant array of inexpensive (or independent) discs.

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Apr 12, 2024 11:34:09   #
BebuLamar
 
Schoee wrote:
No. Not necessarily even number also different RAID configurations. Look it up on Wikipedia. Stands for redundant array of inexpensive (or independent) discs.


And none is a backup. All are backup and being used at the same time. If you lose one, just replace it with a blank drive and the system will restore the data using data from other drives.

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Apr 12, 2024 11:50:00   #
Schoee Loc: Europe
 
BebuLamar wrote:
And none is a backup. All are backup and being used at the same time. If you lose one, just replace it with a blank drive and the system will restore the data using data from other drives.


Yes quite right. The RAID protects against random drive failure but proper backups are still needed for all the other reasons you use backups.

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Apr 12, 2024 11:53:52   #
BebuLamar
 
Schoee wrote:
Yes quite right. The RAID protects against random drive failure but proper backups are still needed for all the other reasons you use backups.


Yes but this is quite different than making a disk image. I make disk image not to backup what's on the computer now but to restore it to the condition before it gains all the junk data after being used for a while.

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Apr 12, 2024 12:14:18   #
Schoee Loc: Europe
 
BebuLamar wrote:
Yes but this is quite different than making a disk image. I make disk image not to backup what's on the computer now but to restore it to the condition before it gains all the junk data after being used for a while.


Yes. Sorry we got off your topic. I was just responding to the RAID comment

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Apr 12, 2024 14:27:21   #
srg
 
charles tabb wrote:
Jerry
I have a son who is an IT for a very large Hospital here.
He set me up with a Dell PC with two 20 TB Hard drives. He used a system called "Raid". The way it works is when I wright to one drive it also wright's to the other. So, if one drive goes bad I simply remove the bad drive and replace it with a new one which automatically backs up from the other one. I also have another external drive in which he has all of my picture files backed up on it also. I haven't been able to feel un-safe as yet with his setup.
Jerry br I have a son who is an IT for a very larg... (show quote)


The very brave, (or foolhardy) Wright's were the first aviators in this country. Way before computers. A fact not to well remembered by today's kids glued too they phones.

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Apr 12, 2024 22:36:42   #
JoeBiker Loc: homebase: Houston, TX
 
jerryc41 wrote:
The first image maker I tried was going to take over a dozen hours.


If they were both slow, my first guess is that, for some reason, the writing to the USB HDD is slow.

To verify (or disprove) that, use CrystalDiskMark, or similar, to test the speed writing to your USB HDD.

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Apr 13, 2024 09:09:51   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
JoeBiker wrote:
To verify (or disprove) that, use CrystalDiskMark, or similar, to test the speed writing to your USB HDD.


That's on my list, but everything else writes very quickly.

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