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Apr 11, 2024 08:50:12   #
Bobby123
 
BebuLamar wrote:
If you are a human. If you're a monkey, you're not the photographer if you push the shutter release button.


I don't know about that. A couple of years ago there was a huge kerfuffle about a monkey that grabbed a camera and took a selfie. It looked like a pretty good portrait to me. Whether or not the monkey or the camera owner was the photographer and therefore owned the rights to the image ended up in court. I never did hear how that one ended...

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Apr 11, 2024 08:57:50   #
BebuLamar
 
Bobby123 wrote:
I don't know about that. A couple of years ago there was a huge kerfuffle about a monkey that grabbed a camera and took a selfie. It looked like a pretty good portrait to me. Whether or not the monkey or the camera owner was the photographer and therefore owned the rights to the image ended up in court. I never did hear how that one ended...


It ended in a settement and the guy whose camera was used by the monkey agreed to donate 25% of his sales to the group that protect animal in Indonesia. So the camera is worth 75% of the image. Not so much the 12 inch behind or in front od the camera.
Of course that is because the law was made by human. If the law was made by monkeys it would totally be different.

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Apr 11, 2024 08:59:04   #
JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco
 
Bobby123 wrote:
I don't know about that. A couple of years ago there was a huge kerfuffle about a monkey that grabbed a camera and took a selfie. It looked like a pretty good portrait to me. Whether or not the monkey or the camera owner was the photographer and therefore owned the rights to the image ended up in court. I never did hear how that one ended...


It wasn't a question of whether the monkey was the photographer. A case could be made that he was. it is a question off whether the monkey owned the copyright to the photo, and it was ruled he didn't.

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Apr 11, 2024 09:01:08   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
Is composition more important than exposure? Without a good exposure composition will not help.
Just saying.

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Apr 11, 2024 09:16:41   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
anotherview wrote:
You will become a photographer when you have mastered the precepts of image composition.


You will become a photographer when you do as I do.

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Apr 11, 2024 09:19:18   #
47greyfox Loc: on the edge of the Colorado front range
 
Iā€™m always relieved when challenging (?) photography issues are resolved in less than 5 UHH pages.

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Apr 11, 2024 09:27:09   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
anotherview wrote:
You will become a photographer when you have mastered the precepts of image composition.


Oh, this is going nowhere, quickly!

You have my deepest sympathies.

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Apr 11, 2024 09:32:09   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
DirtFarmer wrote:
You will become a photographer when you press the shutter release.


You beat me to it. I was thinking the same thing.

Composition is enhancement... a selective editing of nature's visual feast... or some such horse hockey. Much like plastic surgery.

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Apr 11, 2024 09:36:58   #
JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco
 
camerapapi wrote:
Is composition more important than exposure? Without a good exposure composition will not help.
Just saying.


But it can be easier to fix an incorrect exposure than it is to fix a bad composition.

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Apr 11, 2024 09:52:23   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
JohnSwanda wrote:
But it can be easier to fix an incorrect exposure than it is to fix a bad composition.
As long as we all agree that both are highly subjective, and until you know the photographer's intent, you can't begin to judge "incorrect" or "bad."

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Apr 11, 2024 10:02:10   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
As long as we all agree that both are highly subjective, and until you know the photographer's intent, you can't begin to judge "incorrect" or "bad."




A high key image is often going to mean some degree of overexposure. A low key image is often going to mean some degree of underexposure. Neither is an error when the intent yields the desired result. A moonlit silhouette of a couple on a beach at night is going to appear many stops underexposed, except for the overexposed moon. Is that incorrect or bad? No, it's just what can be done, given the contrast range of the scene. The couple will like it for what it is, not for what it is not.

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Apr 11, 2024 10:13:58   #
gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast
 
Me thinks there should be a Random Thoughts choice. šŸ˜‰

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Apr 11, 2024 10:22:44   #
whatdat Loc: Del Valle, Tx.
 
burkphoto wrote:


A high key image is often going to mean some degree of overexposure. A low key image is often going to mean some degree of underexposure. Neither is an error when the intent yields the desired result. A moonlit silhouette of a couple on a beach at night is going to appear many stops underexposed, except for the overexposed moon. Is that incorrect or bad? No, it's just what can be done, given the contrast range of the scene. The couple will like it for what it is, not for what it is not.
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Apr 11, 2024 10:23:08   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
If you don't shoot RAW, you're not a photographer.

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Apr 11, 2024 10:48:37   #
fantom Loc: Colorado
 
anotherview wrote:
You will become a photographer when you have mastered the precepts of image composition.


A pathetic way to try to generate a witless, unnecessary and useless discussion.
Ho hum!

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