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Apr 9, 2024 21:21:47   #
fantom Loc: Colorado
 
Mac wrote:
If something that simple has bothered you for so long you bust be leading an idyllic life.


Maybe he bust got around to expressing himself now.

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Apr 9, 2024 21:22:08   #
fantom Loc: Colorado
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
There’s a reason I rarely look in the gallery. While it’s called a gallery most of the people posting there are not looking to advance photography as an art form. To me it’s overwhelmingly just snapshots. That’s why I rarely post there. And of course those people are getting accolades there. They’re the ones returning the favor by giving the others accolades for like work.



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Apr 9, 2024 21:25:09   #
Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
 
Bill_de wrote:
Somethings that are so simple draw the most attention.

UHH is simple. Most every section has rules, follow them!

Example from the Photo Gallery starts like this:
Photo Gallery Section

This section is for posting pictures you took. If you want to ask others to comment on your choice of subjects, composition, settings, show off your pictures to others, or ask for general critique, then please do so in the Photo Gallery section.

It's easy to understand, but many here like to think they are more important than the rest.

It's good UHH is free. It's bad because there is no incentive to keep control of things.

From Quora:
What is the meaning of the phrase 'love it or leave it' when ...

It means exactly what it says. "If you don't like how things are done here, find somewhere you do, and go there. Don't try to change my lifestyle ...

Just stuff to think about.

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Apr 9, 2024 21:31:40   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
There’s a reason I rarely look in the gallery. While it’s called a gallery most of the people posting there are not looking to advance photography as an art form. To me it’s overwhelmingly just snapshots. That’s why I rarely post there. And of course those people are getting accolades there. They’re the ones returning the favor by giving the others accolades for like work.

Interesting.

I like the Gallery. Seeing pictures of what people shoot.
If I like it, I say so, if it does nothing for me (or I don't happen to see it), I say nothing.
Nothing wrong with saying you like something if you do. But I won't say I like it because it exists.

So you're only interested in seeing images where people are looking to advance their photography as an art form?
Seems a bit narrow.

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Apr 9, 2024 21:34:53   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
There’s a reason I rarely look in the gallery. While it’s called a gallery most of the people posting there are not looking to advance photography as an art form. To me it’s overwhelmingly just snapshots. That’s why I rarely post there. And of course those people are getting accolades there. They’re the ones returning the favor by giving the others accolades for like work.


Correct!

"This section is for posting pictures you took"

Beyond that

"If you want to ask others to comment ..."

OTHERWISE

Don't ask, don't tell

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Apr 9, 2024 21:35:12   #
Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
 
fantom wrote:
Maybe he bust got around to expressing himself now.



If you actually read his initial post in this thread you will see he states he had brought this up years ago.

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Apr 9, 2024 21:41:37   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Mac wrote:
If you actually read his initial post in this thread you will see he states he had brought this up years ago.

Well, he brought it up again, didn't he.

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Apr 9, 2024 21:44:43   #
Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
 
Longshadow wrote:
Well, he brought it up again, didn't he.


Yes, and,,,?
If you read the comment I was replying to, you will understand the context.

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Apr 9, 2024 21:46:16   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Mac wrote:
Yes, and,,,?
If you read the comment I was replying to, you will understand the context.

I did.

And I made a comment. Or does it have to track (follow/relate) your comment?

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Apr 9, 2024 22:51:23   #
User ID
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
There’s a reason I rarely look in the gallery. While it’s called a gallery most of the people posting there are not looking to advance photography as an art form. To me it’s overwhelmingly just snapshots. That’s why I rarely post there. And of course those people are getting accolades there. They’re the ones returning the favor by giving the others accolades for like work.

One day we arranged a badly composed still life with uglee lighting, as a "demonstration", and posted it to the Gallery. Our sole hook was that all the content was vintage photo relic items. Plenty of little short compliments poured forth, as per the custom for Gallery pix. Or maybe it was in the Critique section. But nevertheless, the little kneejerk kudos were dutifully heaped thereupon. You cant provoke any negative replies even if you try.

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Apr 9, 2024 23:04:29   #
Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
 
Rick from NY wrote:
Folks - I raised this subject a few years back and thought I’d give it an encore. UHH has 2 sections for members to post pics - Photo Gallery and Photo Analysis and posting constructive criticism in the first is frowned upon. I think this rule does a disservice to photographers looking to up their game.

I often look at posts in the Gallery and too often see, sorry for the blunt language, just awful photos. I’m not talking about subjective matters. I’m talking about pics that are out of focus, poorly exposed, with wildly tilted horizons (not done intentionally for artistic purposes), badly post processed or overprocessed, poorly composed with telephone poles growing out of heads, etc. or any number of other technical (NOT subjective) flaws.

And most times, well meaning members post, “Great set”, or “Nicely done” or other “ attaboys” in an attempt to not hurt another member’s feelings. I see this as counterproductive and reinforcing bad technique by poster. I ask how is a member to develop better photography skills if, I again apologize upfront, technically terrible pics are displayed and followed by lots of gushing platitudes?

Last time I mentioned this, I was slapped down by numerous members who argue that unless a poster requests constructive criticism, nothing negative should be said. Ok - I’ll buy the “If you have nothing nice to say, say nothing” idea, but gushing over bad stuff does harm to the poster too. If the pics are bad, say nothing. Stop reinforcing bad work.

Just a suggestion to those posting to the Gallery in the future - think about soliciting criticisms so you can improve your work. Sure you will get many nasty, snarky and often incorrect replies from a certain subsection of members, but you will also get many great suggestions for improvement offered in a polite, constructive manner. I’ve been a photographer for 55 yrs and I welcome all well meaning and civil critiques. We are never too old to learn a new trick.

Anxious to see the replies to this rant.
Folks - I raised this subject a few years back and... (show quote)


My photographs follow David Alan Harvey’s philosophy of Don’t Shoot What It Looks Like, Shoot What It Feels Like.

That is why I have stopped posting pictures on UHH. My photos are not meant to be nice, they are not to show majestic beauty or be technically perfect. They are to make people think and feel and experience emotions that reflect real life, which can sometimes be dirty and ugly, disappointing and disheartening.

I don’t need somebody to tell me they aren’t sharp, or need straightening, or should be cropped differently, or anything else. They are the way they are because that is the way I want them to be. I want my photos accepted the way they are for what they are. If anybody can’t look at my photos and SEE what is presented, well too bad for them. By looking at my photos with an eye toward critiquing perceived mistakes, then you are missing the point.

If you want or need a section where you demonstrate your technical knowledge of photography by critiquing photos start a new section yourself for that purpose. Leave the Photo Gallery alone.

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Apr 9, 2024 23:46:18   #
Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
 
Social Documentary Photography:

https://filmlifestyle.com/social-documentary-photography/

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Apr 10, 2024 00:24:07   #
Horseart Loc: Alabama
 
I may say a photo is great when someone else thinks it's awful but, if I really like it, I am going to say so.
If I don't like it, I'm NOT going to say so.

There's no reason to get flustered because someone likes something you don't like.
("you" meaning no one in particular)
Whether they do or don't, and whether it's perfect or not, exactly how important is that to you? I mean, it's going to get daylight again tomorrow either way. Be thankful that we don't all like the same thing.
If it IS that important to anyone, then they should start a section with rules just for their own idea of what is perfect.

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Apr 10, 2024 00:36:05   #
Jsykes
 
MJPerini wrote:
Folks, one of the joys of photography is that it can bee enjoyed at many levels. Everyone starts somewhere.
The gallery is meant to be a "riskless" place to see your photo on the internet, and show it to others.
There is a reason it is structured that way, it encourages people to post regardless of their skill level.
These folks are not looking for your criticism, even if it is well intentioned. They just want to post pictures they are proud of.
There are lots of other places where criticism IS allowed , here and other places.
Having one place free from criticism, where people can feel safe is a very good idea.
Also, try to remember the audience....... This is not some high stakes gallery, I is a cordial meeting place for mostly older photographers to share and talk about Photography. All skill levels are welcome, and we do have lots of accomplished photographers as well as those who just do it for enjoyment.
Unsolicited criticism is generally not welcome anywhere, even if it is meant to be helpful
That should be a pretty easy concept to understand.
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Apr 10, 2024 01:33:53   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
Longshadow wrote:
Interesting.

I like the Gallery. Seeing pictures of what people shoot.
If I like it, I say so, if it does nothing for me (or I don't happen to see it), I say nothing.
Nothing wrong with saying you like something if you do. But I won't say I like it because it exists.

So you're only interested in seeing images where people are looking to advance their photography as an art form?
Seems a bit narrow.


No, but I do find much there pretty uninspiring. Life is too short to spend my time there.

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