Disappointed (Page 5): He used the same terminology in both posts...

burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

Delderby wrote:

Why should there be need to "Go read his original topic" when he is specific in the second topic what his request was in the first topic - quote - "I recently posted a request for advice on printers"

He used the same terminology in both posts...

Delderby Loc: Derby UK

srt101fan wrote:

Read his original topic and the replies he got....

You are evading the issue and going round in circles.

srt101fan

Delderby wrote:

You are evading the issue and going round in circles.

What is the issue I'm evading? 🤔

Delderby Loc: Derby UK

srt101fan wrote:

What is the issue I'm evading? 🤔

You are refusing to accept the only rational meaning of "I recently posted a request for advice on printers" as it was posted by the OP. I think you are being obstinate, and I am now signing out of what has become a silly discussion.

RickL Loc: Vail, Az

Sorry for not responding, I don’t use a printer for my prints, I farm it out. I use Nations Photo Lab for my larger work and Shutter Fly for my 8x10’s.

Mike1017

Not sure what your looking for I have been using Epson printers for years. If you want a great printer look into the P900 Epson very good printer. If that is any help you can google all printers and look at the comment's Mike It will print as good as it gets sometime much better than professional printing. Google it

Morry Loc: Palm Springs, CA

I did not respond to your request for responses . . . however I had some time ago in UHH expressed what I have done in recent years to address the "printer problem". Now I realize what I did will not suit the needs of many. I got so disgusted with the troubles and expense of color printers that I decided to use only black ink printers. The very few color photographs that I still require are done commercially for me. My 2 printers are both Brother laser printers which give me a minimum of trouble. I buy my laser ink from a local Los Angeles store (they have a branch in Palm Springs where I live) that sells their own brand of ink (color and laser black) that they make. Apparently laser ink does not give the amount of problems that colour printing ink does. At least that's my experience. It also costs a lot less to buy. Again this probably won't work for many . . . but it does for me.

Morry Loc: Palm Springs, CA

burkphoto wrote:

The correct terminology to use would be "color lab" or "professional color lab" or "photo lab" or "print service bureau" or "giclée service bureau."

A printer in the context of photography is a device or peripheral. In the graphic arts, a printer is a company that does offset, photogravure, intaglio, or letterpress printing.

Context is, regrettably, the trigger...

A printer (in graphic arts) . . . as the term was at one time used . . . is also a person who learned the trade as a printer (typographer). Most all of them are now "dinosaurs" having been mostly replaced by computers.

yssirk123 Loc: New Jersey

Bay Photo and White House Custom Color have always worked for me.

TOG Loc: Sacramento Valley

"Very Realistic Answer"!

burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

Morry wrote:

A printer (in graphic arts) . . . as the term was at one time used . . . is also a person who learned the trade as a printer (typographer). Most all of them are now "dinosaurs" having been mostly replaced by computers.

Indeed. Most commercial printing has been eliminated by web sites and PDF documents. My wife is a marketing manager. Back in the 1980s, her company had a 60,000 square foot warehouse full of trade show booth junk and hundreds of racks of printed brochures and fliers. Now they still attend shows, but all the literature is virtual. Potential clients download it at will. No inventory.

Robertl594 Loc: Bloomfield Hills, Michigan and Nantucket

burkphoto wrote:

Indeed. Most commercial printing has been eliminated by web sites and PDF documents. My wife is a marketing manager. Back in the 1980s, her company had a 60,000 square foot warehouse full of trade show booth junk and hundreds of racks of printed brochures and fliers. Now they still attend shows, but all the literature is virtual. Potential clients download it at will. No inventory.

That is why web and sheet fed printing equipment is worth a fraction of what it used to be worth.

burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

Robertl594 wrote:

That is why web and sheet fed printing equipment is worth a fraction of what it used to be worth.

All obsolete equipment is worth next to nothing when demand for what it does evaporates.

I worked for a school portrait photofinisher. We had an electronics lab and machine shop, and we built our own high speed portrait package printers. We had over 30 of them that cost about $120,000 each to build in the 1970s and early '80s. About two million dollars' worth of modifications were done to them in the '90s.

When we migrated to digital mini-lab printing in the early 2000s, we had to PAY to have them disassembled so the parts could be recycled. The same was true of our hundreds of film camera systems that cost $8000 to $15,000 each when new. We paid to recycle them, and bought hundreds of Canon dSLRs.

Of course, that whole business is fading away now, because there is little demand for school portraits in an age of the Internet, social media sharing sites, and cell phones with decent cameras in them. The company I worked for sold its school portrait division to Lifetouch in 2011, and Lifetouch sold out to Shutterfly in 2018.

Nothing lasts forever.

John N Loc: HP14 3QF Stokenchurch, UK

My printer has just turned 5 years old, superseeded by more models than I can count. But if you are in the market for a secondhand Epson ET - 7700 I can offer you some tips, the main one being make sure you print something every week.

If I'd seen your question and had anything useful to add I would have said something, but since the change a while back I find I'm looking at less UH.

Wallen Loc: Middle Earth

Tdearing wrote:

I recently posted a request for advice on printers to which I received a total of 2 replies - for those two I am grateful. I believe I have gone out of my way to be complimentary to many, many, many, of the Hogs over the last 5-6 years, often for the effort shown more than results, and I must say I am very disappointed by the response.

IMHO, getting a single reply that works would be good enought for me.
I usually get out of my way to extend what help I can.
But for your printer problem, I have nothing to offer. Hence no reason for me to say anything then.