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Apr 5, 2024 11:34:47   #
Triple G
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
What's there to think about, you guys see Trump as some sort of threat to our country and its democracy and I see Biden as worse, as a figure head for an authoritarian government that has little regard for the welfare of the American people.


That's not thinking; that's hero worship. If authoritarianism is what triggers you, trumps stated plans should set your hair on fire.

https://www.axios.com/2022/07/22/trump-2025-radical-plan-second-term

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Apr 5, 2024 11:45:03   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Triple G wrote:
That's not thinking; that's hero worship. If authoritarianism is what triggers you, trumps stated plans should set your hair on fire.

https://www.axios.com/2022/07/22/trump-2025-radical-plan-second-term


You and I already did circles on this, embedded within the executive branch is a bureaucracy that in many ways works to execute a leftist agenda. According to the constitution the president is the executive branch and therefore should be allowed to rid the executive of those who would work to thwart his agenda. There are checks and balances on presidential powers, however the Administrative state was never outlined in the country's constitution and has become a stronger force in our federal government than Congress itself. I am all for Trump's agenda of limiting the powers of the 4th branch of government.

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Apr 5, 2024 11:49:19   #
Canisdirus
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
What's there to think about, you guys see Trump as some sort of threat to our country and its democracy and I see Biden as worse, as a figure head for an authoritarian government that has little regard for the welfare of the American people.


Within 48 hours of taking the oath...Biden censored RFK Jr.

He started out Banana Republic...and has gone downhill from there.

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Apr 5, 2024 11:53:53   #
Triple G
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
You and I already did circles on this, embedded within the executive branch is a bureaucracy that in many ways works to execute a leftist agenda. According to the constitution the president is the executive branch and therefore should be allowed to rid the executive of those who would work to thwart his agenda. There are checks and balances on presidential powers, however the Administrative state was never outlined in the country's constitution and has become a stronger force in our federal government than Congress itself. I am all for Trump's agenda of limiting the powers of the 4th branch of government.
You and I already did circles on this, embedded wi... (show quote)


And, you are then by default all in on all the chaos, disruption and other authoritarian and avenging acts he has promised.

Trump is the prince of chaos and incompetence in his staff selections so nothing will go as planned (if there even is a thought-through plan, which is doubtful).

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Apr 5, 2024 11:55:35   #
Watash
 
ArtzDarkroom wrote:
or perhaps something for Mother's Day?


Biden would probably sell the bodies of aborted babies since he loves abortion so much, he being a so-called
"good Catholic" and all. Remember, he said the Pope told him he was a good Catholic.

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Apr 5, 2024 12:05:34   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
What's there to think about, you guys see Trump as some sort of threat to our country and its democracy and I see Biden as worse, as a figure head for an authoritarian government that has little regard for the welfare of the American people.


Trump has more than proven that he seeks an authoritarian type gov't. If you can't see that, your hatred is clouding your judgement. His interference, haranguing, threatening and disrespecting of every aspect of our gov't and its people have been so blatantly displayed that many of his own staff, including some of those who haven't been fired, have spoken out. Perhaps everyone is colluding and persecuting him out of boredom.

You can't be serious.

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Apr 5, 2024 12:10:09   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
When voting for President, I do not consider a candidate's religion.
I for one believe in the separation of church and state.

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Apr 5, 2024 12:29:03   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
DaveO wrote:
Trump has more than proven that he seeks an authoritarian type gov't. If you can't see that, your hatred is clouding your judgement. His interference, haranguing, threatening and disrespecting of every aspect of our gov't and its people have been so blatantly displayed that many of his own staff, including some of those who haven't been fired, have spoken out. Perhaps everyone is colluding and persecuting him out of boredom.

You can't be serious.


I look back to his first Administration and see nothing that follows the outline that you are putting forth. Biden on the other hand has unleashed regulations that will transform American life and what is worse is that the infrastructure is not in place to make it feasible but the regulations are still forth coming. I enjoy eating beef and driving my combustion powered car, I like my gas stove and consider my mini splits to be efficient enough, I certainly do not see where the government gets the power to regulate such other than the court aided expanse of the regulatory state which has in my opinion taken things much too far.

I don't see anything getting better under the current Administration, education, border, public safety, family budgets, or foreign affairs? Can you point to anything that the Biden Administration is doing well other than DEI or ESG which the government should not be involved in, that is for our society to workout without the heavy hand of the federal government.

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Apr 5, 2024 12:55:53   #
Effate Loc: El Dorado Hills, Ca.
 
Triple G wrote:
And, you are then by default all in on all the chaos, disruption and other authoritarian and avenging acts he has promised.

Trump is the prince of chaos and incompetence in his staff selections so nothing will go as planned (if there even is a thought-through plan, which is doubtful).


Well, I guess there is danger in the selections no matter who is president as with Mayorkas, Rice, Grandholm, Blinken, Klain now Zients, et.al. because unfortunately instead of “nothing going as planned,” as you suggest, everything is going EXACTLY as planned.

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Apr 5, 2024 13:02:48   #
Triple G
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
I look back to his first Administration and see nothing that follows the outline that you are putting forth. Biden on the other hand has unleashed regulations that will transform American life and what is worse is that the infrastructure is not in place to make it feasible but the regulations are still forth coming. I enjoy eating beef and driving my combustion powered car, I like my gas stove and consider my mini splits to be efficient enough, I certainly do not see where the government gets the power to regulate such other than the court aided expanse of the regulatory state which has in my opinion taken things much too far.

I don't see anything getting better under the current Administration, education, border, public safety, family budgets, or foreign affairs? Can you point to anything that the Biden Administration is doing well other than DEI or ESG which the government should not be involved in, that is for our society to workout without the heavy hand of the federal government.
I look back to his first Administration and see no... (show quote)


I wouldn't call safe drinking water, safe medications, equal access to a good education, safe and reliable energy, equal access to voting and equal access to wifi as heavy-handed. Look to all the red states who are benefiting from federal programs for things they cannot provide for their residents. Look to New Orleans, Miami, etc. for recovery from hurricanes that the city or state couldn't provide. Look at Flint, MI for what federal can do that state and local couldn't. You are often referred to as myopic snd this is one such occasion that explains why.

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Apr 5, 2024 13:05:32   #
One Rude Dawg Loc: Athol, ID
 
ArtzDarkroom wrote:
or perhaps something for Mother's Day?


He will be selling his old shorts next.

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Apr 5, 2024 13:10:26   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Triple G wrote:
I wouldn't call safe drinking water, safe medications, equal access to a good education, safe and reliable energy, equal access to voting and equal access to wifi as heavy-handed. Look to all the red states who are benefiting from federal programs for things they cannot provide for their residents. Look to New Orleans, Miami, etc. for recovery from hurricanes that the city or state couldn't provide. Look at Flint, MI for what federal can do that state and local couldn't. You are often referred to as myopic snd this is one such occasion that explains why.
I wouldn't call safe drinking water, safe medicati... (show quote)


You are taking things to the extreme, nobody is advocating for those things and nobody is advocating for completely doing away with those agencies, just bring them to heal. Personally I would love to see regulations go through a ratification process through congress where the legislative powers of the government lie as per our constitution, ratified by congress and signed off on by the president just like any other legislation.

Flint MI was a failure and there is nothing that the federal government would have done to stop it. Kinda like East Palestine OH, the federal government was well aware of issues within the rail system but they did nothing to prevent it because they were focused elsewhere (Climate Change), and I am sure that the big rail lines had enough cash to slow the regulatory environment. You demonstrate much faith in the federal government, I have very little.

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Apr 5, 2024 13:10:32   #
Triple G
 
Triple G wrote:
I wouldn't call safe drinking water, safe medications, equal access to a good education, safe and reliable energy, equal access to voting and equal access to wifi as heavy-handed. Look to all the red states who are benefiting from federal programs for things they cannot provide for their residents. Look to New Orleans, Miami, etc. for recovery from hurricanes that the city or state couldn't provide. Look at Flint, MI for what federal can do that state and local couldn't. You are often referred to as myopic snd this is one such occasion that explains why.
I wouldn't call safe drinking water, safe medicati... (show quote)


No one will force you to give up harmful activities. Just like smoking, you can keep doing what you want to do, but have some hurdles or incentives put in place to minimize future damage. You don't have to sit on the cactus.



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Apr 5, 2024 13:14:17   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Triple G wrote:
No one will force you to give up harmful activities. Just like smoking, you can keep doing what you want to do, but have some hurdles or incentives put in place to minimize future damage. You don't have to sit on the cactus.


WTF are you talking about? Off topic, we are not talking about smoking. However there is a push to limit the raising of live stock, ranchers are feeling that the government is working against them. Even crop farmers are having difficulty with the government's regulations.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=farmers+feeling+under+attack+by+the+federal+government&t=osx&ia=web

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Apr 5, 2024 13:15:44   #
Effate Loc: El Dorado Hills, Ca.
 
One Rude Dawg wrote:
He will be selling his old shorts next.


Maybe there are those who could use a new tent.

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