A Tesla owner said he would never buy another Tesla, but he changed his mind and saved $12,000. He took advantage of a temporary offer to get the $12,000 software for free. Yes, $12,000 for software to make the car complete.
[i]"The reason I bought it this month was to take advantage of a temporary offer to transfer my so-called Full Self Driving (FSD) software from my old Tesla to the new one without having to pay $12,000 or $200 a month for the software. I’ll save the reason for my confession till I’m done reviewing the new car and the latest version of Tesla’s FSD software."[i/]
www.mercurynews.com%2f2024%2f03%2f28%2flarry-magid-a-new-and-improved-tesla-plus-a-confession%2f&utm_campaign=bang-mult-nl-wednesday-morning-report-nl&utm_content=manual" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.mercurynews.com/2024/03/28/larry-magid-a-new-and-improved-tesla-plus-a-confession/?utm_email=C4AA7473E5A555421564A4096A&lctg=C4AA7473E5A555421564A4096A&active=no&utm_source=listrak&utm_medium=email&utm_term=https%3a%2f%2f
www.mercurynews.com%2f2024%2f03%2f28%2flarry-magid-a-new-and-improved-tesla-plus-a-confession%2f&utm_campaign=bang-mult-nl-wednesday-morning-report-nl&utm_content=manualI wouldn't buy an EV for the fire risk alone. EVs average only sixteen fires a year, which is much lower that the fires in gas and diesel vehicles, at 3,384 annually. Of course, the number of EVs on the road is miniscule compared with internal combustion vehicles. The difference is that EV fires are spontaneous and very difficult to extinguish. I'm satisfied with 40+MPG from my Fit.
DirtFarmer
Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
I am not ready to trust a car in full self driving mode. Particularly in New England, where the snow covers the road and its markings.
I am not ready to use a car with limited range and few recharging stations that take a significant amount of time to recharge.
I like my hybrid. It uses fuel that is readily available and takes 5 minutes or less to refill. It has a 450-550 mile range.
DirtFarmer wrote:
I am not ready to trust a car in full self driving mode. Particularly in New England, where the snow covers the road and its markings.
I am not ready to use a car with limited range and few recharging stations that take a significant amount of time to recharge.
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Yup, I'll stick to my non-EV V too.
TriX
Loc: Raleigh, NC
Most of my trips are just a few miles any more, which isn’t great for the car (transmission, starter, battery, exhaust, etc), so an EV or plug in hybrid would work well for me (and I have another ICE car for trips) but after seeing one Lithium fire up close and personal, I’d never charge an EV in my garage.
You are correct about "electrical and exotic metals" fires.
Only special chemical agents can put them out, permanently.
Not all of the fire engines carry that product to extinguish them.
The hype cycle for EVs is certainly winding down. Ford just announced it is not going to make EV pickups any longer, and Fiskar is apparently close to bankruptcy (with something like a 50% discount on their hugely expensive SV).
It is good to see the propaganda is getting less effective.
So I guess it's time to buy EV. When the hypes is over it's time to buy.
JBuckley wrote:
You are correct about "electrical and exotic metals" fires.
Only special chemical agents can put them out, permanently.
Not all of the fire engines carry that product to extinguish them.
And they have to buy special, expensive blankets to cover the car on fire.
I for one will never buy an EV. Golf cart yes.
DirtFarmer
Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
Never say never
And never say always
DirtFarmer wrote:
Never say never
And never say always
I'll always remember that advice.
Why anyone would buy a Tesla is beyond me.
DirtFarmer wrote:
I am not ready to trust a car in full self driving mode. Particularly in New England, where the snow covers the road and its markings.
I am not ready to use a car with limited range and few recharging stations that take a significant amount of time to recharge.
I like my hybrid. It uses fuel that is readily available and takes 5 minutes or less to refill. It has a 450-550 mile range.
My wife and I own two ICE vehicles. one is 14 years old the other is six years old. Both are in excellent operational and structural condition. Together they have around 165K miles. They both get over 24 to 27 mpg on the highway with a range of over 350 miles each, and have over 22 to 25 mpg average over their lifetimes. Both were paid for several years ago and maintenance has been kept up to date with a reliable mechanic. We have no intention of purchasing an EV or even a hybrid at this time. If, or when, either one is damaged beyond repair and if we need a second vehicle we may consider a hybrid. At 77 years old we do not really anticipate needing another vehicle any time soon, or in the near future.
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