Why???
Mar 30, 2024 09:22:30 #
Here is an interesting question one can ask. What are the first things to come into your mind when you first view a photograph? Is it technical issues such as exposure, resolution, color, etc.? Or, is it the emotional response of the content and its presentation?
For me, it is always the subject, its composition, and the resulting emotional response. As in a painting by a great artist, I do not evaluate it based on the brush strokes, color rendition, or paint composition, but on its emotional effects on me and those who view it. Photography is the same. Type of camera, lenses, exposure settings, megapixels of the images, and other technical issues are like asking what type of brush or brand of paint an artist used to produce his art.
For me, it is always the subject, its composition, and the resulting emotional response. As in a painting by a great artist, I do not evaluate it based on the brush strokes, color rendition, or paint composition, but on its emotional effects on me and those who view it. Photography is the same. Type of camera, lenses, exposure settings, megapixels of the images, and other technical issues are like asking what type of brush or brand of paint an artist used to produce his art.
Mar 30, 2024 09:27:15 #
Emotional.
Then I figure how I want to compose the image.
I do not worry about resolution, lens, and such, sometimes do the exposure values, but usually not.
Then I figure how I want to compose the image.
I do not worry about resolution, lens, and such, sometimes do the exposure values, but usually not.
Mar 30, 2024 10:08:13 #
Longshadow wrote:
"... but we decide which is right, and which is an illusion."
-MB
"... but we decide which is right, and which is an illusion."
-MB
I know that lyric line.Mar 30, 2024 10:13:33 #
Mar 30, 2024 10:37:23 #
Longshadow wrote:
Because people must compare, figure which is better, justify a process, analyze things out the wazoo, ...
Yea, they're all different, behave differently, and produce different results.
Me? I just take pictures.
Yea, they're all different, behave differently, and produce different results.
Me? I just take pictures.
Same here,I'm not into all the artsy target stuff. Ppl pop
Mar 30, 2024 12:05:55 #
Thank you all for your comments. I was simply clearing my mind of some thoughts I had after reading a post about comparing the results of different cameras each using a different lens and trying to compare the results. It seemed the OP was expecting the same results and the same photo content.
I take photos for my enjoyment and if I take one that someone else likes and would like to have, I'll happily provide a copy, for a donation.
I take photos for my enjoyment and if I take one that someone else likes and would like to have, I'll happily provide a copy, for a donation.
Mar 30, 2024 12:20:15 #
All I ask of my camera is that it goes "click" when I push the button and that it under expose by one f stop. All I ask of my lens is that it is sharp enough to allow Topaz to fix any fuzz. Photoshop and I can do the rest.
Mar 30, 2024 12:29:35 #
Curmudgeon wrote:
All I ask of my camera is that it goes "click" when I push the button and that it under expose by one f stop. All I ask of my lens is that it is sharp enough to allow Topaz to fix any fuzz. Photoshop and I can do the rest.
Easy, isn't it.
Mar 30, 2024 12:29:54 #
Two, or three, identical cameras, identical lenses, same person using each, same day, same time, same lighting, same scene, same settings....
.....even change that a little bit.....for the cameras and lenses, use same camera and identical lenses, or same lens and identical cameras....
......all the results going to be exactly identical?
Where does it go from there? How many different monitors are going to display those pictures? Will they each produce identically looking results?
If the results are printed on paper, canvas, metal, what have you, will........?.........golly.......sounds like a way to maybe never reach a point of total satisfaction with technology.
.....even change that a little bit.....for the cameras and lenses, use same camera and identical lenses, or same lens and identical cameras....
......all the results going to be exactly identical?
Where does it go from there? How many different monitors are going to display those pictures? Will they each produce identically looking results?
If the results are printed on paper, canvas, metal, what have you, will........?.........golly.......sounds like a way to maybe never reach a point of total satisfaction with technology.
Mar 30, 2024 12:38:40 #
dustie wrote:
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Where does it go from there? How many different monitors are going to display those pictures? Will they each produce identically looking results?
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Where does it go from there? How many different monitors are going to display those pictures? Will they each produce identically looking results?
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No way Jose!
Everyone's monitor is different and set up differently.
Mar 30, 2024 13:10:09 #
Longshadow wrote:
No way Jose!
Everyone's monitor is different and set up differently.
No way Jose!
Everyone's monitor is different and set up differently.
Ya gonna tell me I'd better "get wiff it" and set this up your way??
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Mar 30, 2024 13:16:16 #
dustie wrote:
Ya gonna tell me I'd better "get wiff it" and set this up your way??
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ROLF - thanks!
Mar 30, 2024 13:39:39 #
Longshadow wrote:
Because people must compare, figure which is better, justify a process, analyze things out the wazoo, ...
Yea, they're all different, behave differently, and produce different results.
Me? I just take pictures.
Yea, they're all different, behave differently, and produce different results.
Me? I just take pictures.
Good for you.
Mar 30, 2024 14:00:14 #
neco wrote:
Good for you.
So much nicer not being concerned with tons of stuff.
Just what is necessary, not the superfluous stuff.
Mar 30, 2024 15:55:43 #
billnikon wrote:
Interesting thought. Yes, I do agree, their are slight color differences between OEM lenses.
For instance, I have always loved facial colors brought by Nikon lenses.
I have always liked fall leaves using older AF Minolta lenses.
I really like wildlife images by Canon lenses.
In fact, I still have several Minolta lenses I still use in the fall on my Sony a1 and a9 bodies.
Good luck and keep on shooting until the end.
For instance, I have always loved facial colors brought by Nikon lenses.
I have always liked fall leaves using older AF Minolta lenses.
I really like wildlife images by Canon lenses.
In fact, I still have several Minolta lenses I still use in the fall on my Sony a1 and a9 bodies.
Good luck and keep on shooting until the end.
The Canon or Nikon or Sony “Look” used to be a bit more pronounced, everyone’s color science and lens correction were different because the aim has never been totally accurate color, but ‘generally accurate and pleasing color’ over the years I think they have converged so that they are more similar to each other than they used to be.
Having used Nikon and Canon a lot I would say Nikon tended to be slightly more Accurate Canon tended to be slightly more pleasing - especially skin tones. But it has never been a lot , and results could still be whatever you liked in post.
In Cinema lenses need to be matched for color, ‘similar’ is not good enough. DOP’s pick one lens set over another based on rendering and color.
For most still photography none of this matters that much. Modern lenses tend to be good , and color neutral.
Why would anyone care? Well if you shoot Beauty, cosmetics , or products, exact color match is essential and having a known and reliable starting point is a big deal
In ‘personal’ photography color is generally what pleases you.
So the answer is , like many things , it matters a great deal to some , and not at all to most. And that’s fine.
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