Bridge Collapse
Mar 27, 2024 09:00:26 #
srt101fan wrote:
All you armchair naval architects and harbor pilots ought to take a deep breath and switch to decaf. Please wait for the facts and stop spreading nonsensical conjectures.
Thanks for injecting some sanity into this discussion.
Mar 27, 2024 09:49:44 #
Indi wrote:
I thought I read that there were people on the bridge.
Friday I will be traveling through Maryland. I don’t remember if I have to take that bridge. Hope not. I’ll have enough problems when I get to the Belt Parkway in Brooklyn.
Friday I will be traveling through Maryland. I don’t remember if I have to take that bridge. Hope not. I’ll have enough problems when I get to the Belt Parkway in Brooklyn.
The bridge was a key part of the 695 Interstate around Baltimore. That route will be closed a long time.
Mar 27, 2024 09:51:23 #
HamB wrote:
Where was the Harbor Pilot?
This is going to be a big problem, the Port of Baltimore is closed.
This is going to be a big problem, the Port of Baltimore is closed.
Harbor pilots were operating the ship.
Mar 27, 2024 10:30:16 #
Filing suit for billions isn't going to solve the problem. All it will do is raise the price of all of our goods.
Mar 27, 2024 10:44:52 #
kufengler
Loc: Meridian, Idaho 83646
HamB wrote:
Something is off with this scenario...
The ship just left the dock and was traveling at a high rate of speed...if the ship was moving and emergency steering was available, they should have been able to avoid the bridge..
The ship just left the dock and was traveling at a high rate of speed...if the ship was moving and emergency steering was available, they should have been able to avoid the bridge..
Traveling at 8 knots. A lengthy video I watched seemed to indicate most lights went out on the ship before it hit the support.
These ships are huge.
Mar 27, 2024 11:28:04 #
kufengler
Loc: Meridian, Idaho 83646
Update on missing people:
"Authorities were able to work quickly to stop cars from entering the bridge after the ship struck the structure, though there were eight construction workers believed to be mending potholes when it collapsed.
Two of the workers have since been pulled from the river alive, but the remaining six are sadly presumed dead.
The missing workers are reported to be dad-of-three Miguel Luna; dad-of-two Maynor Yassir Suazo Sandoval; a 26-year-old and a 35-year-old from Guatemala who have not been named, and Mexican nationals.
Baltimore Mayor Brandon Scott has stressed that rescuers are still focused on finding the missing workers"
"Authorities were able to work quickly to stop cars from entering the bridge after the ship struck the structure, though there were eight construction workers believed to be mending potholes when it collapsed.
Two of the workers have since been pulled from the river alive, but the remaining six are sadly presumed dead.
The missing workers are reported to be dad-of-three Miguel Luna; dad-of-two Maynor Yassir Suazo Sandoval; a 26-year-old and a 35-year-old from Guatemala who have not been named, and Mexican nationals.
Baltimore Mayor Brandon Scott has stressed that rescuers are still focused on finding the missing workers"
Mar 27, 2024 12:56:56 #
Mar 27, 2024 13:25:28 #
BebuLamar wrote:
I guess nobody was on the bridge.
6 construction workers were filling in pot holes on the bridge all are presumed dead. All 6 drowned.
Mar 27, 2024 14:03:06 #
The ship lost power and black smoke poured from the ship. Out of control it veered right toward the bridge support. It called a mayday. The problem was observed from the shore and the police closed access to the bridge before the ship hit it. 8 men were fixing road potholes on the bridge. Two were rescued immediately but 6 died. My evil mind, taking into account the name of the bridge, came up with this:
O say can you see,
By dawn's early light,
The bridge that fell down
In the middle of the night.
O say can you see,
By dawn's early light,
The bridge that fell down
In the middle of the night.
Mar 27, 2024 14:11:15 #
srt101fan wrote:
The ship was apparently going at a normal speed for that area. But you know better?
As i've said beforehand, My judgement was just based on the security video they have shown, and I could be wrong. I'm just rooting for a good investigation to show what really happened.
Hopefully they also make changes that similar events would be prevented.
As for the speed, every port and waterways have their own allowed speed limits. The news said the ship was doing 8knots, which might be within the recomended speed for that area in the best condition. Generally, depending on obsatacles and traffic, the recommended speed is 6knots or slower. They were moving at night & crossing a bridge, not exactly the best conditions. Common sense says they should have slowed down. Then maybe, the end would have been different.
Mar 27, 2024 14:28:33 #
Wallen wrote:
As i've said beforehand, My judgement was just bas... (show quote)
The professional pilots who were operating the ship were experienced navigating the waters in and around the Baltimore Harbor and Francis Scott Key Bridge. They would not have been operating at an unsafe speed.
Mar 27, 2024 14:39:50 #
Kiron
Loc: Wales and Florida
BebuLamar wrote:
I guess nobody was on the bridge.
There were workers and a few vehicles.
Mar 27, 2024 14:44:44 #
Kiron
Loc: Wales and Florida
It would not have happened if the ship was being towed by a tug. Harbors should not have done away them. Also the bridge designers did not do enough what-if analysis. It looked very flimsy and it was. The failure of one pylon/pillar should not have caused the bridge to collapse. Another Tay Bridge but caused by a ship this time.
Mar 27, 2024 14:45:56 #
Why is the US going to pay to fix it. The ships owner should be responsible
Mar 27, 2024 14:49:44 #
Kiron
Loc: Wales and Florida
jerryc41 wrote:
Many bridges have little "islands" protecting the bridge supports. In one case, those islands were added to the new bridge after a ship's collision destroyed the former bridge.
They were added in Tampa when a similar bridge destruction occured. A Greyhound Bus with people in it was also lost.
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