Bridge Collapse
Mar 27, 2024 02:55:06 #
Wallen wrote:
I was watching the security video published last night. The ship did lost light and smoke for about a second just before it hit the bridge.
But was heading for the pillar the whole time, maybe a full 10 minutes before impact, and was moving very fast for such a small navigation space at night.
That bridge and pillars should be clearly marked on their navigation tools and the area would be time to carefully pilot. If my bells are correct, it was intentional.
But was heading for the pillar the whole time, maybe a full 10 minutes before impact, and was moving very fast for such a small navigation space at night.
That bridge and pillars should be clearly marked on their navigation tools and the area would be time to carefully pilot. If my bells are correct, it was intentional.
It wasn’t heading for the pillar the whole time. It only hit the pillar because it lost power and lost control.
Mar 27, 2024 02:58:49 #
AirWalter
Loc: Tipp City, Ohio
Tote1940 wrote:
In many bridges have seem an structure to keep boats away from pillars.
Just huge wooden piles driven in a circle or diamond shape . You can see some like that on high tension towers near bridge.
They narrow channel , may be they are to direct current more than protect posts.
Structure will have to be analyzed, one post hit but whole bridge dissassembled in seconds
Just huge wooden piles driven in a circle or diamond shape . You can see some like that on high tension towers near bridge.
They narrow channel , may be they are to direct current more than protect posts.
Structure will have to be analyzed, one post hit but whole bridge dissassembled in seconds
I either read an article or listened to a news program, a woman who lives there said that those guards around those pillars had been talked about earlier, but not done because funds wound up used for something else. Sounds like normal practice on a lot of things.
Mar 27, 2024 03:04:05 #
AirWalter
Loc: Tipp City, Ohio
SuperflyTNT wrote:
It wasn’t heading for the pillar the whole time. It only hit the pillar because it lost power and lost control.
I posted something about that earlier talking to Jerry and asked how much wind would there have to be to turn that ship and cargo into that pillar. The film I say on the news made it look like the ship turned towards the pillar at almost the last minute. STRANGE!
Mar 27, 2024 04:14:30 #
SuperflyTNT wrote:
It wasn’t heading for the pillar the whole time. It only hit the pillar because it lost power and lost control.
It looks to me that way but I may be mistaken. One thing I know, the inertia of that massive ship will keep it going to the direction it was heading to unless a really strong force would move it another way. I do not think the wind was not that strong on that night to veer the ship suddenly to the pillar if that is what happened. Besides, the rudder will still work if the ship is moving forward, so a full loss of control only happens when they are adrift. A good investigation will hopefully find the truth.
Mar 27, 2024 07:50:15 #
I don't see how that ship would have cleared the bridge decks. It looks too tall. The investigation should clear that up. It was probably empty and able to clear the bridge when it entered the port.
Mar 27, 2024 07:52:53 #
Ollieboy wrote:
I don't see how that ship would have cleared the bridge decks. It looks too tall. The investigation should clear that up. It was probably empty and able to clear the bridge when it entered the port.
The bridge on the ship is taller than all the container. So if it can go thru when empty it can go thru fully loaded.
Mar 27, 2024 07:55:25 #
[quote=srt101fan]you say "Maybe they are also overloaded." So now you're adding to your original accusation. I hope you never take part in an accident investigation.
And speaking of a ship's sail area, did you ever take a good look at cruise Deleted.
And speaking of a ship's sail area, did you ever take a good look at cruise Deleted.
Mar 27, 2024 08:30:37 #
All you armchair naval architects and harbor pilots ought to take a deep breath and switch to decaf. Please wait for the facts and stop spreading nonsensical conjectures.
Mar 27, 2024 08:30:55 #
jerryc41 wrote:
This is horrible. A container ship collided with the Francis Scott Key Bridge in Baltimore - "Baltimore's key bridge." Not all people have been rescued from the very cold water. Those container ships are not very maneuverable.
https://wtop.com/baltimore/2024/03/key-bridge-in-baltimore-collapses-after-hitting-large-boat/
There is a video of the collision. https://www.wbaltv.com/article/baltimore-bridge-collapse-key-bridge/60303975
https://wtop.com/baltimore/2024/03/key-bridge-in-baltimore-collapses-after-hitting-large-boat/
There is a video of the collision. https://www.wbaltv.com/article/baltimore-bridge-collapse-key-bridge/60303975
I've been over that bridge, glad to say not recently though!...Julian
Mar 27, 2024 08:34:04 #
Amtrain wrote:
They did not drop either of the two anchors ...a big No-No.
Really? Are the photos that show the port anchor down fake?
Mar 27, 2024 08:37:38 #
Wallen wrote:
I was watching the security video published last night. The ship did lost light and smoke for about a second just before it hit the bridge.
But was heading for the pillar the whole time, maybe a full 10 minutes before impact, and was moving very fast for such a small navigation space at night.
That bridge and pillars should be clearly marked on their navigation tools and the area would be time to carefully pilot. If my bells are correct, it was intentional.
But was heading for the pillar the whole time, maybe a full 10 minutes before impact, and was moving very fast for such a small navigation space at night.
That bridge and pillars should be clearly marked on their navigation tools and the area would be time to carefully pilot. If my bells are correct, it was intentional.
The ship was apparently going at a normal speed for that area. But you know better?
Mar 27, 2024 08:44:00 #
It’s amazing how many photographers are expert on maritime matters and easy to see how dumb rumors begin. According to Wiki, the center span on the Key Bridge is 185 feet high and 1000 feet wide. Shouldn’t be a problem for any ship ever built. I’ve sailed into Baltimore harbor from Annapolis a couple of times on a 27 foot Catalina sailboat with a 34 foot mast - that bridge sure looked high. Apparently, there were two bay pilots aboard but without power you are at the mercy of wind and current.
Mar 27, 2024 08:44:11 #
BebuLamar wrote:
The bridge on the ship is taller than all the container. So if it can go thru when empty it can go thru fully loaded.
Thank you for injecting some sanity into the discussion.
Mar 27, 2024 08:49:53 #
Wallen wrote:
It looks to me that way but I may be mistaken. One... (show quote)
It’s likely that measures taken to slow the ship down, reversing the prop when the power briefly returned, dropping anchors, actually caused the rapid turn. On a ship that size the rudder is powered also and steering is lost when you lose power.
Mar 27, 2024 08:53:53 #
BebuLamar wrote:
I guess nobody was on the bridge.
Just a work crew, the ship was able to notify the bridge and they shut down traffic on it so there was no cars on the bridge at the time of collision, they just couldn't get the work crew off fast enough.
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