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Mar 24, 2024 15:15:21   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
National Park wrote:
What rights are those? The right to not be vaccinated and spread communicable disease to those who, because of health reasons, cannot themselves be vaccinated? The right to let any wacko own weapons of mass destruction? The right to take away a woman's right to an abortion? The right to frustrate the ability of others to vote? The right to overthrow a free and fair election?


Well listen to you, Mr. typical of the Left Hypocrite himself. Here you are on the Left telling Conservatives a woman has a Constitutional Right to have as many abortions as she wants, not needs but wants, while telling the rest of us we MUST accept a government mandate to have a needle stuck in our arm anytime the government thinks it appropriate. We MUST give up our 1st Amendment rights to free speech and freedom to practice our religion because the government thinks it best for us. What an asinine thought process you must have to believe that absolute hypocritical bullshit.

Now consider the very same government that fired some of our best military men and women as well as police and other first responders for refusing to be vaccinated has allowed MILLIONS of illegal aliens into the country while not insisting even one of them be vaccinated for any diseases let alone Covid. They are not required to be vaccinated.

The idiocy of the Left is mind boggling at best. Only the word, hypocrisy, brings it all into focus.

Dennis

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Mar 24, 2024 15:18:22   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Well listen to you, Mr. typical of the Left Hypocrite himself. Here you are on the Left telling Conservatives a woman has a Constitutional Right to have as many abortions as she wants, not needs but wants, while telling the rest of us we MUST accept a government mandate to have a needle stuck in our arm anytime the government thinks it appropriate. We MUST give up our 1st Amendment rights to free speech and freedom to practice our religion because the government thinks it best for us. What an asinine thought process you must have to believe that absolute hypocritical bullshit.

Now consider the very same government that fired some of our best military men and women as well as police and other first responders for refusing to be vaccinated has allowed MILLIONS of illegal aliens into the country while not insisting even one of them be vaccinated for any diseases let alone Covid. They are not required to be vaccinated.

The idiocy of the Left is mind boggling at best. Only the word, hypocrisy, brings it all into focus.

Dennis
Well listen to you, Mr. typical of the Left Hypocr... (show quote)


Who tells you all this stuff??

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Mar 24, 2024 15:20:04   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Texcaster wrote:
Who tells you all this stuff??



THE QUESTION

Does the federal government require vaccines for migrants in immigrant detention facilities?
THE SOURCES

U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE)
Congressional Research Service (CRS)
Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA)
Professor Shefali Milczarek-Desai, director of the University of Arizona’s Workers' Rights Clinic
U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS)
THE ANSWER


No, the federal government does not require migrants to get vaccinated in immigration detention facilities. ICE says it “cannot force individuals in detention to be vaccinated” but does encourage vaccinations.
WHAT WE FOUND

American federal, state and local governments do not physically force any individual to get any vaccine; they just mandate vaccines at some workplaces and schools.
The World Health Organization says vaccine mandates aren’t truly “compulsory,” meaning they don’t physically force individuals to get vaccinated against their will. A government might require vaccination as a condition for work or school, but it isn’t holding anyone down to vaccinate them. Individuals still have options and even exemptions for declining vaccination. American vaccine mandates don’t apply to individuals, including migrants, outside of the schools or workplaces the mandates specifically apply to.

You should know by now, but don't, those who read and pay attention tend to know more than those who foolishly just run their mouth nonstop.

Dennis

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Mar 24, 2024 15:44:31   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Well listen to you, Mr. typical of the Left Hypocrite himself. Here you are on the Left telling Conservatives a woman has a Constitutional Right to have as many abortions as she wants, not needs but wants, while telling the rest of us we MUST accept a government mandate to have a needle stuck in our arm anytime the government thinks it appropriate. We MUST give up our 1st Amendment rights to free speech and freedom to practice our religion because the government thinks it best for us. What an asinine thought process you must have to believe that absolute hypocritical bullshit.

Now consider the very same government that fired some of our best military men and women as well as police and other first responders for refusing to be vaccinated has allowed MILLIONS of illegal aliens into the country while not insisting even one of them be vaccinated for any diseases let alone Covid. They are not required to be vaccinated.

The idiocy of the Left is mind boggling at best. Only the word, hypocrisy, brings it all into focus.

Dennis
Well listen to you, Mr. typical of the Left Hypocr... (show quote)


The idiocy of the Right is mind-boggling at best. Only the word, hypocrisy, brings it all into focus.



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Mar 24, 2024 15:47:06   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
dennis2146 wrote:


You should know by now, but don't, those who read and pay attention tend to know more than those who foolishly just run their mouth nonstop.

Dennis


And that be you Denise.

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Mar 24, 2024 20:52:05   #
National Park
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Well listen to you, Mr. typical of the Left Hypocrite himself. Here you are on the Left telling Conservatives a woman has a Constitutional Right to have as many abortions as she wants, not needs but wants, while telling the rest of us we MUST accept a government mandate to have a needle stuck in our arm anytime the government thinks it appropriate. We MUST give up our 1st Amendment rights to free speech and freedom to practice our religion because the government thinks it best for us. What an asinine thought process you must have to believe that absolute hypocritical bullshit.

Now consider the very same government that fired some of our best military men and women as well as police and other first responders for refusing to be vaccinated has allowed MILLIONS of illegal aliens into the country while not insisting even one of them be vaccinated for any diseases let alone Covid. They are not required to be vaccinated.

The idiocy of the Left is mind boggling at best. Only the word, hypocrisy, brings it all into focus.

Dennis
Well listen to you, Mr. typical of the Left Hypocr... (show quote)


What a bunch of hogwash. You have put words in my mouth, none of which are true. I never said, nor do I agree, that abortions should be available for anyone, anytime, for any reason, as you imply. You don't have a clue about the difficult decisions that women often have to make about terminating pregnancies, yet you want to impose your "morality" on them. I never said nor do I agree that anyone "MUST accept a government mandate to have a needle stuck in our arm anytime the government thinks it appropriate." I never said, nor has the government ever said, you must "give up" your "1st Amendment rights to free speech and freedom to practice our religion because the government thinks it best for you." You can practice whatever religion you please, you just don't have the right to have it supported by government. If you want to talk about free speech, it's the right wing who is telling libraries and schools what books they should and should not carry, requiring schools to carry textbooks saying that some slaves benefited from slavery.

Government vaccination requirements are mandatory for certain jobs, as they should be, to prevent the spread of communicable diseases, but you have the right to not take the job, or continue at the job. It's your choice. If you want to be a selfish idiot who believes conspiracy theories about vaccinations you have the right to do so. You just don't have the right to infect others in a workplace because of your idiocy. The government is not obligated to give you a job if you choose to not get vaccinated and spread communicable diseases to others in the workplaces.

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Mar 24, 2024 21:34:22   #
travelwp Loc: New Jersey
 
dennis2146 wrote:
The idiocy of the Left is mind boggling at best.
Dennis



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Mar 24, 2024 21:37:55   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
travelwp wrote:


We're not the ones calling J6 convicts "hostages and patriots!" You need to take a good look at the rapidly evolving dogma Q/MAGA is required to swallow whole ... daily ... to stay in Trump's good books.

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Mar 25, 2024 08:02:54   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
National Park wrote:
What a bunch of hogwash. You have put words in my mouth, none of which are true. I never said, nor do I agree, that abortions should be available for anyone, anytime, for any reason, as you imply. You don't have a clue about the difficult decisions that women often have to make about terminating pregnancies, yet you want to impose your "morality" on them. I never said nor do I agree that anyone "MUST accept a government mandate to have a needle stuck in our arm anytime the government thinks it appropriate." I never said, nor has the government ever said, you must "give up" your "1st Amendment rights to free speech and freedom to practice our religion because the government thinks it best for you." You can practice whatever religion you please, you just don't have the right to have it supported by government. If you want to talk about free speech, it's the right wing who is telling libraries and schools what books they should and should not carry, requiring schools to carry textbooks saying that some slaves benefited from slavery.

Government vaccination requirements are mandatory for certain jobs, as they should be, to prevent the spread of communicable diseases, but you have the right to not take the job, or continue at the job. It's your choice. If you want to be a selfish idiot who believes conspiracy theories about vaccinations you have the right to do so. You just don't have the right to infect others in a workplace because of your idiocy. The government is not obligated to give you a job if you choose to not get vaccinated and spread communicable diseases to others in the workplaces.
What a bunch of hogwash. You have put words in my ... (show quote)


OMG and WOW!!!!! What a thin little skin you have. Nobody put words in your mouth. Maybe your mouth just runs so much with nothing coming out of any importance you get your words mixed up.

When I say, YOU, I am talking about everyone on the Left who whines cries and bitches telling the rest of us a woman has a RIGHT to an abortion because it is her body. I don't think I have ever heard anything different from any Left Winger here in The Attic. Have you? Conservatives, pro life people, ask for a reasonable time period to decide to have an abortion from the pregnant woman and to then have it. I am sure some state(s) will have a NO ABORTION law but most do allow abortions depending on the number of weeks allowed to have that abortion. What is your, yes you, personal number of weeks before a woman can no longer abort the fetus? Do you have a set number of weeks that is reasonable to YOU personally? OR are you one of those Left Wingers who insists on the woman's RIGHT even up to a couple of hours before the baby is born or maybe just murder the baby after it comes out of the womb? What is it for YOU, what time limit?

I have had 4 vaccinations for Covid but if I chose to not have any it would simply be because it is MY BODY and I will decide what is injected into it, not the government. How sad you have two standards, one for your thoughts and a completely different standard for my thoughts.

My wife had to have an abortion or possibly lose her life. Don't you ever decide to tell someone, even me, they don't have any idea of the difficult decisions that go along with having an abortion or the pain it causes for years afterward. Was your child aborted? If not then apparently it is YOU who has no idea and you ARE just running your mouth and spewing manure.

No, the government has never said I must give up my 1st Amendment rights. But under Democratic Socialist leadership the government has looked the other way while BLM and Antifa have done their best to force colleges to terminate contracts with Right Wing speakers and/or have looked the other way. The government in some states HAS forced church goers to not attend the religious service of their choice during Covid. You can admit that can you not? Attending religious services is a 1st Amendment Right and is not to be terminated just because of illness. You do know that don't you? The government stepped all over itself in some jurisdictions in limiting RIGHTS saying it was needed for the good of us all. Americans do not give up rights just because the government declares an emergency.

Government vaccination requirements were instituted during Covid but not all people were forced to give up their jobs/be terminated if they did not receive the vaccination. Only some people were terminated if they refused the vaccination. Doctors, nurses, first responders, military men and women were terminated. Only someone on the Left cannot see the idiocy of terminating a doctor or nurse who could be saving lives and trying to cure those with the virus because they did not receive the vaccination.

"it's the right wing who is telling libraries and schools what books they should and should not carry, requiring schools to carry textbooks saying that some slaves benefited from slavery", you tell us. Where is that happening? Point that out for us exactly. Maybe you and shutterslug could come up with 40-50 links proving what you say. Conservatives are saying there should be AGE APPROPRIATE books in schools. You are a LIAR if you are saying the Right is banning books from school libraries. Conservatives do not believe in books being in schools for little children IF those books graphically depict blow jobs, anal sex, perverted sex or any type of sex that is inappropriate for little kids. How disgusting you apparently think little kids from kindergarten through the 5th grade should be exposed to these things.

Keep up the good work. Your comedic star is sure to rise soon.

Dennis

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Mar 25, 2024 08:11:00   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
dennis2146 wrote:
OMG and WOW!!!!! What a thin little skin you have. Nobody put words in your mouth. Maybe your mouth just runs so much with nothing coming out of any importance you get your words mixed up.

When I say, YOU, I am talking about everyone on the Left who whines cries and bitches telling the rest of us a woman has a RIGHT to an abortion because it is her body. I don't think I have ever heard anything different from any Left Winger here in The Attic. Have you? Conservatives, pro life people, ask for a reasonable time period to decide to have an abortion from the pregnant woman and to then have it. I am sure some state(s) will have a NO ABORTION law but most do allow abortions depending on the number of weeks allowed to have that abortion. What is your, yes you, personal number of weeks before a woman can no longer abort the fetus? Do you have a set number of weeks that is reasonable to YOU personally? OR are you one of those Left Wingers who insists on the woman's RIGHT even up to a couple of hours before the baby is born or maybe just murder the baby after it comes out of the womb? What is it for YOU, what time limit?

I have had 4 vaccinations for Covid but if I chose to not have any it would simply be because it is MY BODY and I will decide what is injected into it, not the government. How sad you have two standards, one for your thoughts and a completely different standard for my thoughts.

My wife had to have an abortion or possibly lose her life. Don't you ever decide to tell someone, even me, they don't have any idea of the difficult decisions that go along with having an abortion or the pain it causes for years afterward. Was your child aborted? If not then apparently it is YOU who has no idea and you ARE just running your mouth and spewing manure.

No, the government has never said I must give up my 1st Amendment rights. But under Democratic Socialist leadership the government has looked the other way while BLM and Antifa have done their best to force colleges to terminate contracts with Right Wing speakers and/or have looked the other way. The government in some states HAS forced church goers to not attend the religious service of their choice during Covid. You can admit that can you not? Attending religious services is a 1st Amendment Right and is not to be terminated just because of illness. You do know that don't you? The government stepped all over itself in some jurisdictions in limiting RIGHTS saying it was needed for the good of us all. Americans do not give up rights just because the government declares an emergency.

Government vaccination requirements were instituted during Covid but not all people were forced to give up their jobs/be terminated if they did not receive the vaccination. Only some people were terminated if they refused the vaccination. Doctors, nurses, first responders, military men and women were terminated. Only someone on the Left cannot see the idiocy of terminating a doctor or nurse who could be saving lives and trying to cure those with the virus because they did not receive the vaccination.

"it's the right wing who is telling libraries and schools what books they should and should not carry, requiring schools to carry textbooks saying that some slaves benefited from slavery", you tell us. Where is that happening? Point that out for us exactly. Maybe you and shutterslug could come up with 40-50 links proving what you say. Conservatives are saying there should be AGE APPROPRIATE books in schools. You are a LIAR if you are saying the Right is banning books from school libraries. Conservatives do not believe in books being in schools for little children IF those books graphically depict blow jobs, anal sex, perverted sex or any type of sex that is inappropriate for little kids. How disgusting you apparently think little kids from kindergarten through the 5th grade should be exposed to these things.

Keep up the good work. Your comedic star is sure to rise soon.

Dennis
OMG and WOW!!!!! What a thin little skin you have... (show quote)


OMG and WOW!!!!! You sure do post a lot of absolutely NOTHING.

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Mar 25, 2024 09:10:49   #
National Park
 
dennis2146 wrote:
OMG and WOW!!!!! What a thin little skin you have. Nobody put words in your mouth. Maybe your mouth just runs so much with nothing coming out of any importance you get your words mixed up.

When I say, YOU, I am talking about everyone on the Left who whines cries and bitches telling the rest of us a woman has a RIGHT to an abortion because it is her body. I don't think I have ever heard anything different from any Left Winger here in The Attic. Have you? Conservatives, pro life people, ask for a reasonable time period to decide to have an abortion from the pregnant woman and to then have it. I am sure some state(s) will have a NO ABORTION law but most do allow abortions depending on the number of weeks allowed to have that abortion. What is your, yes you, personal number of weeks before a woman can no longer abort the fetus? Do you have a set number of weeks that is reasonable to YOU personally? OR are you one of those Left Wingers who insists on the woman's RIGHT even up to a couple of hours before the baby is born or maybe just murder the baby after it comes out of the womb? What is it for YOU, what time limit?

I have had 4 vaccinations for Covid but if I chose to not have any it would simply be because it is MY BODY and I will decide what is injected into it, not the government. How sad you have two standards, one for your thoughts and a completely different standard for my thoughts.

My wife had to have an abortion or possibly lose her life. Don't you ever decide to tell someone, even me, they don't have any idea of the difficult decisions that go along with having an abortion or the pain it causes for years afterward. Was your child aborted? If not then apparently it is YOU who has no idea and you ARE just running your mouth and spewing manure.

No, the government has never said I must give up my 1st Amendment rights. But under Democratic Socialist leadership the government has looked the other way while BLM and Antifa have done their best to force colleges to terminate contracts with Right Wing speakers and/or have looked the other way. The government in some states HAS forced church goers to not attend the religious service of their choice during Covid. You can admit that can you not? Attending religious services is a 1st Amendment Right and is not to be terminated just because of illness. You do know that don't you? The government stepped all over itself in some jurisdictions in limiting RIGHTS saying it was needed for the good of us all. Americans do not give up rights just because the government declares an emergency.

Government vaccination requirements were instituted during Covid but not all people were forced to give up their jobs/be terminated if they did not receive the vaccination. Only some people were terminated if they refused the vaccination. Doctors, nurses, first responders, military men and women were terminated. Only someone on the Left cannot see the idiocy of terminating a doctor or nurse who could be saving lives and trying to cure those with the virus because they did not receive the vaccination.

"it's the right wing who is telling libraries and schools what books they should and should not carry, requiring schools to carry textbooks saying that some slaves benefited from slavery", you tell us. Where is that happening? Point that out for us exactly. Maybe you and shutterslug could come up with 40-50 links proving what you say. Conservatives are saying there should be AGE APPROPRIATE books in schools. You are a LIAR if you are saying the Right is banning books from school libraries. Conservatives do not believe in books being in schools for little children IF those books graphically depict blow jobs, anal sex, perverted sex or any type of sex that is inappropriate for little kids. How disgusting you apparently think little kids from kindergarten through the 5th grade should be exposed to these things.

Keep up the good work. Your comedic star is sure to rise soon.

Dennis
OMG and WOW!!!!! What a thin little skin you have... (show quote)


Blah,blah blah. During the height of the pandemic you could still attend your church electronically, like millions and millions of others did. You continued to have your first amendment right to attend church services. Noone prevented you from doing so. Regarding abortion, that is a decision made by a woman and her doctor, not you and I. And regarding life, you right wingers value "life" only before birth. Only someone on the right can see the idiocy of allowing unvaccinated doctors and nurses to spread a pandemic to their patients. Regarding text books saying that slavery benefited some slaves,take a look at Florida. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/new-florida-standards-teach-black-people-benefited-slavery-taught-usef-rcna95418

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Mar 25, 2024 10:52:00   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
National Park wrote:
Blah,blah blah. During the height of the pandemic you could still attend your church electronically, like millions and millions of others did. You continued to have your first amendment right to attend church services. Noone prevented you from doing so. Regarding abortion, that is a decision made by a woman and her doctor, not you and I. And regarding life, you right wingers value "life" only before birth. Only someone on the right can see the idiocy of allowing unvaccinated doctors and nurses to spread a pandemic to their patients. Regarding text books saying that slavery benefited some slaves,take a look at Florida. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/new-florida-standards-teach-black-people-benefited-slavery-taught-usef-rcna95418
Blah,blah blah. During the height of the pandemi... (show quote)


There you go changing the parameters. The Constitution does not say anything about going to church electronically. That is not what freedom of religion is about is it? Citizens were also limited as to protests but the Constitution says nothing about ONLY PROTESTING when there is no virus going around does it?

In some areas the police certainly did prevent church goers from attending church services. That does go against the Constitutional right of the 1st Amendment no matter what you tell us.

Please show me where in the Constitution or anywhere else it is written that an abortion decision is only between a woman and her doctor. I can't wait to see it. No no take your time since it does not exist. That is yet one more piece of lying corrupt BULLSHIT you on the Left spread around as if it was written in stone for all to see and obey. Truth is it is written nowhere by anybody.

"right wingers value "life" only before birth", you erroneously tell us. Yet one more BULLSHIT lie you on the Left have made up because Conservatives do not want to support those babies some mothers have and then ignore them and don't take proper care of them. I do not want to support some one else's kid, do you? If a person cannot support their own children they should not get pregnant. Someone needs to inform the Left there are birth control solutions out there for women who do not want to get pregnant. Getting pregnant and then aborting the fetus as a form of birth control is a bit stupid don't you agree? Perhaps those pregnant women who want an abortion should have taken some responsibility to use birth control BEFORE they got pregnant.

Only someone on the thing corrupt Left can think everyone should be vaccinated and penalties issued to those who do not even knowing some people have died from the vaccines, some people have had the virus and no longer need the vaccines. Only a FOOL will insist Americans be vaccinated or lose their jobs while allowing millions of unvaccinated illegal aliens into America to spread not only Covid but other diseases not seen in America for decades.

Dennis

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Mar 25, 2024 10:56:55   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
dennis2146 wrote:
There you go changing the parameters. The Constitution does not say anything about going to church electronically. That is not what freedom of religion is about is it? Citizens were also limited as to protests but the Constitution says nothing about ONLY PROTESTING when there is no virus going around does it?

In some areas the police certainly did prevent church goers from attending church services. That does go against the Constitutional right of the 1st Amendment no matter what you tell us.

Please show me where in the Constitution or anywhere else it is written that an abortion decision is only between a woman and her doctor. I can't wait to see it. No no take your time since it does not exist. That is yet one more piece of lying corrupt BULLSHIT you on the Left spread around as if it was written in stone for all to see and obey. Truth is it is written nowhere by anybody.

"right wingers value "life" only before birth", you erroneously tell us. Yet one more BULLSHIT lie you on the Left have made up because Conservatives do not want to support those babies some mothers have and then ignore them and don't take proper care of them. I do not want to support some one else's kid, do you? If a person cannot support their own children they should not get pregnant. Someone needs to inform the Left there are birth control solutions out there for women who do not want to get pregnant. Getting pregnant and then aborting the fetus as a form of birth control is a bit stupid don't you agree? Perhaps those pregnant women who want an abortion should have taken some responsibility to use birth control BEFORE they got pregnant.

Only someone on the thing corrupt Left can think everyone should be vaccinated and penalties issued to those who do not even knowing some people have died from the vaccines, some people have had the virus and no longer need the vaccines. Only a FOOL will insist Americans be vaccinated or lose their jobs while allowing millions of unvaccinated illegal aliens into America to spread not only Covid but other diseases not seen in America for decades.

Dennis
There you go changing the parameters. The Constit... (show quote)


Please document cases where the police prevented people from going to church.
I'd be quite interested to see when and where that happened.

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Mar 25, 2024 11:37:16   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Frank T wrote:
Please document cases where the police prevented people from going to church.
I'd be quite interested to see when and where that happened.


Many here are fully aware of my inability to post links effectively. I did look it up and found several instances of police ticketing (a form of arrest) churchgoers in several locations. If you want the answer, YOU ARE WRONG, look up, Did police arrest churchgoers during Covid. You will find they did, against the 1st Amendment.

Dennis

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Mar 25, 2024 11:42:12   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Many here are fully aware of my inability to post links effectively. I did look it up and found several instances of police ticketing (a form of arrest) churchgoers in several locations. If you want the answer, YOU ARE WRONG, look up, Did police arrest churchgoers during Covid. You will find they did, against the 1st Amendment.

Dennis


You are so full of bull-$hit.

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