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Mar 22, 2024 23:05:56   #
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Hip Coyote wrote:
Once again, M43 user here.

M43 is not as good in low light conditions. So one needs to up the ISO or have faster lenses. I can say that the denoise and AI have really helped me resurrect a few shots that otherwise would have been too grainy. As with all systems, there are tradeoffs. Low light is on the negative side of the equation.

With m43 you just open up two stops rather than raising ISO two stops. m43 has a two stop advantage in DoF so that with the same framing, a FF f:5.6 shot can be made at f:2.8 by m43, with equal DoF. (Shutter speed is irrelevant.) IOW, altho m43 users "lose" two stops of ISO speed, youll still get the same shot with the same DoF, at the same shutter speed, relative to FF users.

Theres plenty many Hawgsters will insist that the above equivalency is just myth and fake math. But most of those also have a death grip on their SLRs, so whoever want to belive that bunch deserves to do so. Im not their messiah. Truth is a take it or leave it deal.

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Mar 23, 2024 15:45:13   #
Hip Coyote
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
You have no clue what you’re talking about. ON Systems makes a 100-400mm lens that is very good. It’s only $1500, (currently on sale for $1300). I shoot both FF Nikon and M4/3 and yes my Z9 with the 180-600 is a great combo but I also get great stuff from my OM-1 with the 100-400, and yes the OIS in the lens works in conjunction with the IBIS in the body. Yes the smaller sensor of the same vintage can be subject to more noise, but the newer OM-1 sensor is better in low light than the older sensors in both of those Nikons.
You have no clue what you’re talking about. ON Sys... (show quote)


This from DigitalCameraWorld.com on the Oly 100-400. DP Review verified this as well. I am assuming they know what they're talking about.

"The Olympus M.Zuiko 100-400mm f/5.0-6.3 IS comes with the weather sealing and freeze-proofing that is normally reserved for Olympus' series of Pro lenses – though it doesn't feature the Sync-IS system featured in Pro glass (which works in tandem with the in-body image stabilization of Olympus cameras, to provide extra stability), instead offering 3-stops of compensation via lens IS. "

In summary, the two image stabilization systems do not work together.

Users report that using IBIS or lens only stabilization works just fine. I have the Pany 100-400 which is in the same boat when paired with my Oly gear...I don't see a problem..works just fine for me.

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Mar 23, 2024 15:54:47   #
ricardo00
 
Hip Coyote wrote:
This from DigitalCameraWorld.com on the Oly 100-400. DP Review verified this as well. I am assuming they know what they're talking about.

"The Olympus M.Zuiko 100-400mm f/5.0-6.3 IS comes with the weather sealing and freeze-proofing that is normally reserved for Olympus' series of Pro lenses – though it doesn't feature the Sync-IS system featured in Pro glass (which works in tandem with the in-body image stabilization of Olympus cameras, to provide extra stability), instead offering 3-stops of compensation via lens IS. "

In summary, the two image stabilization systems do not work together.

Users report that using IBIS or lens only stabilization works just fine. I have the Pany 100-400 which is in the same boat when paired with my Oly gear...I don't see a problem..works just fine for me.
This from DigitalCameraWorld.com on the Oly 100-40... (show quote)


Thanks, that was my understanding as well. Have you tried to do handheld video at 400mm focal length with this lens?

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Mar 23, 2024 15:57:47   #
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ricardo00 wrote:
Thanks, that was my understanding as well. Have you tried to do handheld video at 400mm focal length with this lens?


I have...what I do is brace myself, as if shooting a pistol, against something and it works great. I attached a photo that I think was shot out that far. If not it was nearly at 400. The santa was real! Not. I just added it on PS as a lark since I shot this on Xmas eve.

I also have used it straight up hand held and it works...need to have a decent shutter speed, of course, but it works.

Frankly, I'd look at the Oly 150-600 if I shot long stuff...but I can't justify it. This was the Pany lens...a very good copy I might add.

For me, m43 works just fine.



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Mar 23, 2024 16:10:39   #
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Hip Coyote wrote:
I have...what I do is brace myself, as if shooting a pistol, against something and it works great. I attached a photo that I think was shot out that far. If not it was nearly at 400. The santa was real! Not. I just added it on PS as a lark since I shot this on Xmas eve.

I also have used it straight up hand held and it works...need to have a decent shutter speed, of course, but it works.

Frankly, I'd look at the Oly 150-600 if I shot long stuff...but I can't justify it. This was the Pany lens...a very good copy I might add.

For me, m43 works just fine.
I have...what I do is brace myself, as if shooting... (show quote)


Thanks, want a lighter lens and don't really think that I would shoot at 600mm. Plus prefer having the 100mm at the low end (ie. 200mm 35mm equivalent). So was hoping for an updated version of the 100-400mm which had image stabilization that worked with the camera or better low light abilities (ie. wider aperture). Not a longer FL. Will wait, maybe their next lens will fit better what I am looking for.

PS. For my video I shoot at slower shutter speeds, 1/50 or so.

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