New sub or new speakers?
Mar 22, 2024 14:25:39 #
Mar 22, 2024 18:36:45 #
BebuLamar wrote:
Headphones for the money sounds better than speakers but the stereo image is in your head and it's not the same as the speakers. Besides he is using a surround system so he may need some kind of special processing like Dolby Headphones or something to provide the surround sound effect with headphones.
Any way I say go for the subs because I think the OP just wanna have a lot more bass to shake the house.
Any way I say go for the subs because I think the OP just wanna have a lot more bass to shake the house.
If you want to fix that “image in the middle of your head” and place the soundstage back where it belongs in front of you, pick up a used Carver Sonic Hologram Generator. It does exactly that, is high quality and not expensive if purchased used. May sound like “magic” name for the device, but Carver is a well known high quality audio designer, and the device really does work. I use it with a pair of the original Koss ESP 9 electrostatic ear speakers, and the sound is superb. Btw the Carver device isn’t an amplifier - it goes between the preamp and amp or in the tape loop.
Mar 22, 2024 18:50:16 #
planepics wrote:
I'm debating whether to change out my two mis-matched subwoofers for one more powerful one (new) or swap out my RP-600Mii main speakers for a pair of RP-6000Fii floor-standers (B-stock/scratch-n-dent). They would both be about the same price, but the sub would be a bit easier to fit in to the room. Either one would be an improvement. I have a (currently) 7.2.4 system in my ~13x16 bedroom - speakers are on the wide walls. Any opinions?
I would absolutely go for the larger Klipsch transducers. And if your listening position allows it, I’d consider putting them on the short wall. You may find that you don’t need the subs at all. Since the ports are on the back, don’t place them against the wall.
Mar 22, 2024 18:50:30 #
dbrugger25 wrote:
If they are all housed in the same speaker cabinet... (show quote)
But I love watching action movies. I also listen to jazz, classical, some country (older stuff) and some light to medium rock.
Mar 22, 2024 18:55:56 #
TriX wrote:
I would absolutely go for the larger Klipsch transducers. And if your listening position allows it, I’d consider putting them on the short wall. You may find that you don’t need the subs at all. Since the ports are on the back, don’t place them against the wall.
My listening position is completely fixed against the back (long) wall. I can move forward about 3 ft for slightly better Atmos but that's it. All my walls and corners are spoken for - bed, dressers, book and media cabinets, AV unit, file cabinet, closet and window.
Mar 22, 2024 19:03:40 #
planepics wrote:
But I love watching action movies. I also listen to jazz, classical, some country (older stuff) and some light to medium rock.
If action movies are your thing, then fine and well, BUT if you want a high quality REALISTIC reproduction and a correct image/sound stage, forget the subs (good speakers don’t need them and “boomy” bass is unrealistic and distorted) and the surround and center channels and set you amp for 2 Channel stereo for critical listening.
Speakers with dome tweeters are usually placed parallel to the back wall, but one characteristic of Klipsch designs (and has been since the company was founded) is cone/horn tweeters which gives a narrower field that is more directional, so you may need to angle them slightly inward so as not to have a “hole in the middle” of your sound field without using the center channel.
Mar 22, 2024 19:10:29 #
planepics wrote:
My listening position is completely fixed against the back (long) wall. I can move forward about 3 ft for slightly better Atmos but that's it. All my walls and corners are spoken for - bed, dressers, book and media cabinets, AV unit, file cabinet, closet and window.
Then that’s what you’re stuck with. I suggest the long way because the wavelength of a 20Hz wave is 56 feet and you need as much room as possible before being reflected off the back wall and causing cancellation
Mar 22, 2024 20:25:30 #
TriX wrote:
If action movies are your thing, then fine and wel... (show quote)
When I listen to CD, records (vinyl) or streaming radio, I nearly always do 2-channel (with subs). I can do it without subs and have many times, sometimes switching back and forth, but there's just seems to be a more complete, rounded-out sound when I have them engaged. They're set to auto so if I'm listening to a piano concerto they probably won't on but when I have some jazz or some other music on they are usually engaged. If I had a dedicated listening room and $20K speakers I might not think about a sub
Mar 22, 2024 21:19:06 #
planepics wrote:
When I listen to CD, records (vinyl) or streaming ... (show quote)
Understand, but looking at the larger Klipsches you’re looking at, I think you may be surprised as how solid the bass is with those 2 16cm woofers. Let us know what you decide and how they sound - I think they’ll be a better investment than another sub.
Mar 23, 2024 09:57:57 #
planepics wrote:
Klipsch. One of my subs is a 10" Polk (60W?)... (show quote)
I am familiar with Klipsch. Very nice speakers. I assume from what I read that this is an active sub. I have the Polk Lsi series and have often thought about adding a sub but have not done so yet. Good luck in your quest.
Mar 23, 2024 12:41:09 #
Want a real subwoofer; check out "Velodyne Acoustics". I have a Digital Drive 10 Plus and it has its own 1250 watt RMS class D amplifier that will drive you out of a 20'x25' room with 12' ceiling very little effort. It is matched with my 5 Bowers & Wilkins 805 D4 Diamond Series loudspeakers for a complete surround sound experience.
Mar 23, 2024 13:44:16 #
dwermske wrote:
Want a real subwoofer; check out "Velodyne Acoustics". I have a Digital Drive 10 Plus and it has its own 1250 watt RMS class D amplifier that will drive you out of a 20'x25' room with 12' ceiling very little effort. It is matched with my 5 Bowers & Wilkins 805 D4 Diamond Series loudspeakers for a complete surround sound experience.
That's too much sub for a 13x16x8 1/2 bedroom. Besides, your speakers alone probably cost more than my entire system put together...maybe even my car!
Mar 23, 2024 13:48:40 #
TriX wrote:
Understand, but looking at the larger Klipsches you’re looking at, I think you may be surprised as how solid the bass is with those 2 16cm woofers. Let us know what you decide and how they sound - I think they’ll be a better investment than another sub.
Actually double-checking the dimensions of the floor-standers, there's no way to move the furniture in a way that will fit in the towers. If I put them where my bookshelf speakers are (in front of my bookshelves) I wouldn't be able to get in or out of my room because they'd block the door. I think I'll just have to shop for a sub for now.
Mar 23, 2024 14:59:33 #
I just ordered an RP-1200SW from Paducah Home Theater. for $695, no tax to IL I guess it's an economic cooperation thing :) I should get it mid-late next week due to family issues any sooner. I can hardly wait! Anyone want to buy a couple subwoofers? :)
Mar 24, 2024 12:42:59 #
Back in the 70s I had a Sony amp and stereo system with JBL speakers that rattled our neighbors Knick knacks when I had parties. They never complained, just joined the party. I still have the system but added a Sony 300 CD player from the 90s full of oldies. Back in those days things were made to last. We now live on acreage with closest neighbor blocks away. It still sounds great, but I don't crank it up anymore.
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