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Mar 18, 2024 14:25:39   #
Timmers Loc: San Antonio Texas.
 
An interesting point.

Think about this one, now that vehicles come with backup cameras, why not install front and rear cameras with built in recording memory for all future vehicles? Insurance companies could then offer reductions to rates(even small rate reductions) as this would help level the playing field on who are bad drivers and who are the good drivers, even reduce insurance investigations and police involvements.

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Mar 18, 2024 14:37:25   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
Many cars do have cameras all around the car that record everything. It's not readily available to the driver, except what is shown immediately on the information screen, but can be recovered in case of serious accident by the manufacturer.

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Mar 18, 2024 18:05:01   #
Manglesphoto Loc: 70 miles south of St.Louis
 
Timmers wrote:
An interesting point.

Think about this one, now that vehicles come with backup cameras, why not install front and rear cameras with built in recording memory for all future vehicles? Insurance companies could then offer reductions to rates(even small rate reductions) as this would help level the playing field on who are bad drivers and who are the good drivers, even reduce insurance investigations and police involvements.


Those cameras could be your best friend or your worst enemy

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Mar 18, 2024 20:17:18   #
Timmers Loc: San Antonio Texas.
 
SteveR wrote:
Many cars do have cameras all around the car that record everything. It's not readily available to the driver, except what is shown immediately on the information screen, but can be recovered in case of serious accident by the manufacturer.


Gee, That is nice. Why would the manufacturer get involved with your property after the sale. Seems a bit odd.

Oh well, another idea that people don't like.

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Mar 18, 2024 21:32:07   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
Timmers wrote:
Gee, That is nice. Why would the manufacturer get involved with your property after the sale. Seems a bit odd.

Oh well, another idea that people don't like.


The cameras not only feed photos into a black box, but all kinds of data are fed into it. In case of a serious accident and following lawsuit, car manufacturers will be subpoenaed to provide those photos and data to help show fault. They don't get involved because they want to.

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Mar 19, 2024 06:00:42   #
Timmers Loc: San Antonio Texas.
 
SteveR wrote:
The cameras not only feed photos into a black box, but all kinds of data are fed into it. In case of a serious accident and following lawsuit, car manufacturers will be subpoenaed to provide those photos and data to help show fault. They don't get involved because they want to.


So, if all this data is available what is the problem with the owner having aces to this collected data? Why the need to keep data from the owner?

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Mar 19, 2024 06:52:01   #
Ollieboy
 
Timmers wrote:
So, if all this data is available what is the problem with the owner having aces to this collected data? Why the need to keep data from the owner?


I believe it's more lucrative to sell your data to your insurance Co. than to to give it to you for free. It's always about the money.

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Mar 19, 2024 07:57:33   #
Timmers Loc: San Antonio Texas.
 
Ollieboy wrote:
I believe it's more lucrative to sell your data to your insurance Co. than to to give it to you for free. It's always about the money.


I guess that makes sense to the money people and insurance places act more like banks all the time.

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Mar 19, 2024 09:23:32   #
alexol
 
Worshipping the dollar became a substitute for worshipping god many years ago.

From the movie The Gun:

"Faith, Hope, Charity - but greater than these is Banking".

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Mar 19, 2024 09:52:46   #
Blaster34 Loc: Florida Treasure Coast
 
Timmers wrote:
An interesting point.

Think about this one, now that vehicles come with backup cameras, why not install front and rear cameras with built in recording memory for all future vehicles? Insurance companies could then offer reductions to rates(even small rate reductions) as this would help level the playing field on who are bad drivers and who are the good drivers, even reduce insurance investigations and police involvements.


Mine has cameras (front and rear) that can be turned on/off even while driving....not sure about the images being recorded though.

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Mar 19, 2024 10:00:20   #
marine73 Loc: Modesto California
 
SteveR wrote:
Many cars do have cameras all around the car that record everything. It's not readily available to the driver, except what is shown immediately on the information screen, but can be recovered in case of serious accident by the manufacturer.


My Subaru has a backup camera only, but I can install a front and rear aftermarket camera that records all around to a SIM card. Depending on make of camera it will lock the scene on the card and send it to your insurance company, google front/rear camera for more detailed information. My wife says I need one as I commute a long distance to work, but alas she has not turned loose of the money.

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Mar 19, 2024 10:04:38   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
Timmers wrote:
So, if all this data is available what is the problem with the owner having aces to this collected data? Why the need to keep data from the owner?


What data would you like that you don't have? With my Lexus ap the computer DOES give an update on things like harsh cornering, fast acceleration and harsh braking and then rates the driving based on these parameters. From my understanding, to read the data from the black box you'd need some significant computer programming since there are many kinds of data being stored.

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Mar 19, 2024 10:47:38   #
kerry12 Loc: Harrisburg, Pa.
 
Timmers wrote:
An interesting point.

Think about this one, now that vehicles come with backup cameras, why not install front and rear cameras with built in recording memory for all future vehicles? Insurance companies could then offer reductions to rates(even small rate reductions) as this would help level the playing field on who are bad drivers and who are the good drivers, even reduce insurance investigations and police involvements.


I have 360 degree cameras on my truck.

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Mar 19, 2024 11:35:40   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
Timmers wrote:
An interesting point.

Think about this one, now that vehicles come with backup cameras, why not install front and rear cameras with built in recording memory for all future vehicles? Insurance companies could then offer reductions to rates(even small rate reductions) as this would help level the playing field on who are bad drivers and who are the good drivers, even reduce insurance investigations and police involvements.


The new cars have so many cameras now that when you park the car will show you where you are within the parking space OR it will actually park the car for you right in the middle of the parking space either forwards or backwards, your choice.

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Mar 19, 2024 12:04:39   #
KillroyII Loc: Middle Georgia
 
Timmers wrote:
An interesting point.

Think about this one, now that vehicles come with backup cameras, why not install front and rear cameras with built in recording memory for all future vehicles? Insurance companies could then offer reductions to rates(even small rate reductions) as this would help level the playing field on who are bad drivers and who are the good drivers, even reduce insurance investigations and police involvements.


Both our cars have cameras... front and rear and 360 view... but they do not RECORD (at least is a way I can get to the video)

I think I saw a car ad that said it had built in camera... can't remember which car.

I wonder what military bases would do????? I frequently go on a military base near me (Robins AFB, GA) and when I have a camera hanging on the windshield they make me take it down... I tried once to just unplug it and that was not good enough... had to take it off the windshield to get on base. If it was built in, they probably would not notice/know but eventually they """could""" ban all cars that include camera(s)

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