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Mar 19, 2024 07:22:01   #
richardsaccount
 
I feel your pain. The once thriving regional mall about three miles from me had at one time five
major department stores. it is down to two. A J.C.Penny and a Dillard's. Sears was the first to go
A developer recently purchased the building. The dying local newspaper carried the story. It read that
this developer hasn't figured out what to do with it as yet. As the late author Kurt Vonnegut would often
say. So it goes.

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Mar 19, 2024 07:51:00   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
burkphoto wrote:
Online shopping is king…


Long live the king!

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Mar 19, 2024 07:57:09   #
LenCreate
 
You wrote “We hadn't been to this mall in quite some time”. Ask yourself why you hadn’t and then apply that reason to all of the others who hadn't been to this mall in quite some time too. That’s the reason that it and most other mall’s are failing.

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Mar 19, 2024 08:12:53   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
LenCreate wrote:
You wrote “We hadn't been to this mall in quite some time”. Ask yourself why you hadn’t and then apply that reason to all of the others who hadn't been to this mall in quite some time too. That’s the reason that it and most other mall’s are failing.


I don't know who this comment is for, but our large local mall didn't have much of what I wanted. Clothing stores and shoe stores dominated. It did have a large Sears and Hess (like Macy's). It still has a "barber shop" that I use if necessary. I haven't gone to a barber shop since 2018. I own scissors and a comb. 😁

There was a great deal of resistance when the mall was suggested in the 1980s, but once it was finished it was very popular. Actually, it was too popular with teenagers on weekends at night. It was a nice place to visit and walk through, and it had a decent varieties of stores. As the stores gradually, closed, fewer people went there. When new owners bought it a few years ago, they forced out some stores that they didn't thing were classy enough.

It looks like there are only a dozen businesses there now, when there used to be dozens. Best Buy left a couple of years ago, and that cut down on foot traffic.

https://www.shophudsonvalleymall.com/directory

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Mar 19, 2024 08:18:34   #
ddgm Loc: Hamilton, Ontario & Fort Myers, FL
 
The biggest mall in our city lost the Sears store and now The Hudson Bay Home store is being replaced with a Tesla Dealership. Still a very nice mall.

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Mar 19, 2024 08:52:21   #
Burtzy Loc: Bronx N.Y. & Simi Valley, CA
 
My wife and I made the same observation abut the Thousand Oaks mall in California yesterday. The still have Macy's and J.C. Penney as anchors but empty stores are empty stores and the mall itself had lot of closed store fronts. The era of strolling the mall to shop is drawing to a close.

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Mar 19, 2024 08:58:00   #
maxlieberman Loc: 19027
 
Just as the regional malls killed downtown shopping, Amazon and the like are killing the regional malls. Same story for the Plymouth Meeting Mall outside of Philadelphia. The food court used to be a destination in itself; now not even a McDonalds. Only a Japanese teriyaki and a pizza joint. I suspect that the various restaurants on the pad are what is keeping it alive.

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Mar 19, 2024 09:49:42   #
kerry12 Loc: Harrisburg, Pa.
 
bobbyjohn wrote:
Yesterday, wife and I went to the movie theater at the Music City Mall (formerly known as Vista Ridge Mall) in Lewisville, TX to see the movie "Cabrini" (but the movie is a whole nuther story.)

We hadn't been to this mall in quite some time, and it was a shocking eye-opener. We remember it to be a lively, bustling mall with lots of people walking the corridors, and almost 100% store occupancy. As we got there early, we had the opportunity to walk the mall. To our surprise, it appears virtually dead. We saw about a dozen people walking inside. We'd estimate that about 20% of the store fronts were occupied, and those that were occupied were of cheap, 3rd world kind of establishments. One storefront boasted, "Nothing over $8.99 in the entire store." There were previously 4 large anchor stores, like JCPenney, Macys, Dillards, Sears…now only 1 remains, and Dillards was renamed to Dillards Clearance…one can only imagine!

It sure looks like the Music City Mall will soon be the recipient of the wrecker's ball, much like the Valley View Mall in Dallas which was demolished in 2019.
Yesterday, wife and I went to the movie theater at... (show quote)


They are already starting to tear them down here in Harrisburg.

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Mar 19, 2024 09:55:13   #
Don, the 2nd son Loc: Crowded Florida
 
By nature things wax and wane. As Amazon, etal wax malls wane.

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Mar 19, 2024 10:15:48   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
We live in the heart of what used to be the furniture MANUFACTURING center of the world. It's still one of two furniture MARKETING centers of the world, and far more diverse than it was in its heyday. But since the 1980s, and especially during the last big recession, it shrank rapidly, as most of the manufacturers left for China, Brazil, and cheaper labor markets.

Of course, that, plus the effects of Internet commerce, killed or crippled local Malls. Oak Hollow Mall in High Point, NC, is now being gutted by its new owner, the very upscale High Point University, which is nearby and growing like a weed. The perimeter road still has a McDonalds, a Marriott, and a Target store, but nearly everything else is gone. Meanwhile, Friendly Center, a strip shopping center in Greensboro, NC, is a relatively healthy upscale "open air mall" shopping center that sprawls over a large area. It's been around since 1957.

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Mar 19, 2024 10:47:48   #
JBRIII
 
Ava'sPapa wrote:
It seems to me that a deserted mall could be a real money maker if it were converted into a community of condos and a grocery store, possibly a gym, a track…so many possibilities. Any of which are better than letting the building deteriorate.


I think the problem is all the plumbing needed for condos? Easier and cheaper to tear down and start over.
Also, the demise of the big stores has been a problem. One near us had Sears, Pennys, Bontons, all closed, mall emptied sold for nothing, don't know what is there now.

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Mar 19, 2024 11:05:09   #
Bridges Loc: Memphis, Charleston SC, now Nazareth PA
 
burkphoto wrote:
We live in the heart of what used to be the furniture MANUFACTURING center of the world. It's still one of two furniture MARKETING centers of the world, and far more diverse than it was in its heyday. But since the 1980s, and especially during the last big recession, it shrank rapidly, as most of the manufacturers left for China, Brazil, and cheaper labor markets.

Of course, that, plus the effects of Internet commerce, killed or crippled local Malls. Oak Hollow Mall in High Point, NC, is now being gutted by its new owner, the very upscale High Point University, which is nearby and growing like a weed. The perimeter road still has a McDonalds, a Marriott, and a Target store, but nearly everything else is gone. Meanwhile, Friendly Center, a strip shopping center in Greensboro, NC, is a relatively healthy upscale "open air mall" shopping center that sprawls over a large area. It's been around since 1957.
We live in the heart of what used to be the furnit... (show quote)


Speaking about foreign manufactured furniture -- some of the best comes from Viet Nam -- who would have guessed?

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Mar 19, 2024 11:22:32   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Bridges wrote:
Speaking about foreign manufactured furniture -- some of the best comes from Viet Nam -- who would have guessed?


Furniture is made wherever the labor is cheap and the workers are skilled. Much of it is marketed from High Point, NC, and Milan, Italy, although a lot of companies are headquartered elsewhere. The biggest and best attend the shows.

The High Point Furniture Market, a sprawling trade show which is only for buyers, designers, and manufacturers, happens twice a year. It is usually five days in April and five days in October, plus all the setup and breakdown days for exhibitors. Much of downtown High Point is a shell during the rest of the year. April and October are crazy, though.

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Mar 19, 2024 12:46:55   #
Bridges Loc: Memphis, Charleston SC, now Nazareth PA
 
burkphoto wrote:
Furniture is made wherever the labor is cheap and the workers are skilled. Much of it is marketed from High Point, NC, and Milan, Italy, although a lot of companies are headquartered elsewhere. The biggest and best attend the shows.

The High Point Furniture Market, a sprawling trade show which is only for buyers, designers, and manufacturers, happens twice a year. It is usually five days in April and five days in October, plus all the setup and breakdown days for exhibitors. Much of downtown High Point is a shell during the rest of the year. April and October are crazy, though.
Furniture is made wherever the labor is cheap and ... (show quote)


I remember back in the 80s I had planned to go there and buy a rolltop desk. No longer a desire as they aren't really set up for computers with large screens.

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Mar 19, 2024 13:12:37   #
Caribou Loc: St. Louis, MO
 
bobbyjohn wrote:
Yesterday, wife and I went to the movie theater at the Music City Mall (formerly known as Vista Ridge Mall) in Lewisville, TX to see the movie "Cabrini" (but the movie is a whole nuther story.)

We hadn't been to this mall in quite some time, and it was a shocking eye-opener. We remember it to be a lively, bustling mall with lots of people walking the corridors, and almost 100% store occupancy. As we got there early, we had the opportunity to walk the mall. To our surprise, it appears virtually dead. We saw about a dozen people walking inside. We'd estimate that about 20% of the store fronts were occupied, and those that were occupied were of cheap, 3rd world kind of establishments. One storefront boasted, "Nothing over $8.99 in the entire store." There were previously 4 large anchor stores, like JCPenney, Macys, Dillards, Sears…now only 1 remains, and Dillards was renamed to Dillards Clearance…one can only imagine!

It sure looks like the Music City Mall will soon be the recipient of the wrecker's ball, much like the Valley View Mall in Dallas which was demolished in 2019.
Yesterday, wife and I went to the movie theater at... (show quote)


What did you think of the movie. My wife and I saw it recently.

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