Red6

I do not have the documents in my possession but they were extensively shown and discussed in the Congressional hearings, the New York Times research, and the Netflix documentary. The New York Times also obtained copies of these documents during their research on the MCAS disasters and reported such in their articles. It may take a little work on your part to pull up the actual documents from the NY Times and the Congressional record, but they certainly exist.

As I stated earlier, I am not anti-Boeing or against any company making a profit. Profit is what sets the US apart from other systems and grows and builds the country. I am an active investor and hold stocks in my accounts, including Boeing.

What I am against are corporate managers who refuse to take responsibility and accountability for their company's actions when something goes wrong and try to cover up or shift the blame. Working in companies all my working life I understand that a CEO cannot know all the day-to-day details of what happens in his organization. But, when something bad does happen, especially when human lives are lost, the CEO should immediately be fully involved with all the details and knowledge of the available facts. It is what he does next that makes a difference.

CEOs and other corporate managers are heavily compensated through salaries and stock options. With all this wealth comes a responsibility to the company, its investors, and its customers. Boeing's managers failed all of them in the 737 MAX debacle.

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

"Involved" is a tricky word. There is an incestuous relationship between Boeing and the FAA. The FAA relies on Boeing to make sure its planes are safe to fly. It's just like the NRC - letting operators of nuclear powerplants report on the safety of their plants. When there is a major problem - like a plane crash - the FAA makes "recommendations" and allows years for changes to be made.

"American Airlines has started telling its pilots it has “identified a potential hazard” with the switches on the back of the pilots’ seats on the Dreamliners. It said all cockpit occupants should be briefed on “the importance of not using the switch on the top back of the pilot seat when the seat is occupied,” according to the notice obtained by CNN."

Given the current situation with Boeing, the news should report on serious problems with the company and its planes. If Boeing had to send a warning about the seat switch to Dreamliner owns, maybe they shouldn't have put it where they did. No testing for potential problems?

As for the Latam incident, it would be best to wait for the preliminary NTSB report.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

How many instances have there been over the to-date life of the Dreamliner?

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

Manufacturing problems, but no crashes.

https://www.aeroinside.com/aircraft-type/b788/boeing-787-8-dreamliner

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

I should have said the seat switch.....

Canisdirus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwQsgcayE88

If you want the general rundown on how Boeing lost its way.

Good international news source fyi...in case you did not already know.

Dikdik Loc: Winnipeg, Canada

The end result is that the Boeing board has made a profit at the cost of other people's lives with no repercussions. That's the real sadness.

dustie Loc: Nose to the grindstone

That won't matter, if behind articles written and remarks aired there is an agenda to gain views by piling up stories that paint Boeing as the most dangerous, heartless, careless, greedy, incompetent aircraft manufacturer since before paper airplanes were invented.

How many of the news reports mention something airline company service/maintenance related, that happened on an aircraft that's already been in service for an extended period of time (i.e. a wheel/tire fell off a departing jet), without adding in the previous Boeing design/construction instances, as though it's all caused by Boeing? Even though Boeing is not responsible to do nor oversee the routine maintenace, nor train airline personnel for the operations and maintenance of every Boeing aircraft ever made.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

Sad isn't it....

ecblackiii Loc: Maryland

By removing one olive from the salad, United saved $50,000 in expenses. That started the ball rolling to save hundreds of millions by eliminating meals.

dustie Loc: Nose to the grindstone

No wonder olive grove owners are suffering economic hardships, and we pay so much more now for smaller jars of olives at the grocery outlets!

ecblackiii Loc: Maryland

I love Spanish olives. So, I buy multiple big jars at a time in Costco.

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

Correct!

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

I'm sure they're thinking ways to begin a subscription service.

"I see you'd like to buy a plane ticket, but I'm sorry to see that you are not one of our subscribers."

TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC

Boeing or Airbus or Bombardier, or…, flying has become such a PIA, that I hope to never get on another commercial aircraft.