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Mar 15, 2024 09:38:22   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
I hate these utilities that say I have 12,000 malware files on my computer and then say they can delete them - if I start paying every year.

I recently got a notice from CCleaner saying I had a dozen outdated drivers. When I clicked on Update, it asked for money. There are free driver updaters available, but I prefer to wait for the software company itself to let me know that there are updates available. I got a notice from Apple today, and from Epson yesterday.

Another thing - I avoid deleting cookies - sign-in data - as part of a clean-up routine because signing back into sites can be a nuisance.

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Mar 15, 2024 10:11:32   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Norton does the same, $ to get the driver(s) updated. The only driver updates I've done in years have been ones from the manufacturer's notice.
Never had a problem only doing those.

I delete all cookies from site "visits" that I normally don't go to a lot. I keep cookies for regularly visited sites (same reason). Firefox is nice, it lists all sites that stored cookies by date last used. VERY easy to select which ones to delete. Most "one time site visits" I will open in a private window in Firefox, no cookies are stored.

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Mar 15, 2024 16:50:15   #
BebuLamar
 
Antivirus softwares as well as clean up softwares are a nuisance in my opinion. Very difficult to get rid of.

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Mar 15, 2024 17:06:37   #
Bill_R Loc: Southeastern Wisconsin
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I hate these utilities that say I have 12,000 malware files on my computer and then say they can delete them - if I start paying every year.

I recently got a notice from CCleaner saying I had a dozen outdated drivers. When I clicked on Update, it asked for money. There are free driver updaters available, but I prefer to wait for the software company itself to let me know that there are updates available. I got a notice from Apple today, and from Epson yesterday.

Another thing - I avoid deleting cookies - sign-in data - as part of a clean-up routine because signing back into sites can be a nuisance.
I hate these utilities that say I have 12,000 malw... (show quote)


I've been using the paid CCleaner for a few years, but lately have started to question how good it really is. For instance, in older versions when I ran the "clean" option, I would be notified that it had found maybe a hundred or so "trackers". Lately, it tells me that it found five or six thousand! So, this number would be based on whatever use my PC gets in one day, since I always run the cleaner and shut down at the end of the day.

Also, the latest version always tells me that it has found several programs that need to be updated. However, when I okay this action, a progress bar pops up, but never seems to make any progress. Last night, this part of the utility ran for more than fifteen minutes and updated nothing.

I'm not going to renew my subscription when it comes due next month. Subscription fatigue played into this decision.

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Mar 15, 2024 17:42:00   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
BebuLamar wrote:
Antivirus softwares as well as clean up softwares are a nuisance in my opinion. Very difficult to get rid of.


Yes! I've had to go through hoops (figuratively) to sign back into sites today. As I used to tell my wife, "Cleaning is overrated."

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Mar 15, 2024 18:10:15   #
dbrugger25 Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
Bill_R wrote:
I've been using the paid CCleaner for a few years, but lately have started to question how good it really is. For instance, in older versions when I ran the "clean" option, I would be notified that it had found maybe a hundred or so "trackers". Lately, it tells me that it found five or six thousand! So, this number would be based on whatever use my PC gets in one day, since I always run the cleaner and shut down at the end of the day.

Also, the latest version always tells me that it has found several programs that need to be updated. However, when I okay this action, a progress bar pops up, but never seems to make any progress. Last night, this part of the utility ran for more than fifteen minutes and updated nothing.

I'm not going to renew my subscription when it comes due next month. Subscription fatigue played into this decision.
I've been using the paid CCleaner for a few years,... (show quote)


If Microsoft gave a damn about its billions of users, they would build more security featured into their operating systems.

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Mar 15, 2024 19:16:27   #
AirWalter Loc: Tipp City, Ohio
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I hate these utilities that say I have 12,000 malware files on my computer and then say they can delete them - if I start paying every year.

I recently got a notice from CCleaner saying I had a dozen outdated drivers. When I clicked on Update, it asked for money. There are free driver updaters available, but I prefer to wait for the software company itself to let me know that there are updates available. I got a notice from Apple today, and from Epson yesterday.

Another thing - I avoid deleting cookies - sign-in data - as part of a clean-up routine because signing back into sites can be a nuisance.
I hate these utilities that say I have 12,000 malw... (show quote)


Jerry - - - - I delete my cookies every night along with other junk files that CCleaner shows me. The next day that you go to the site whose cookies that were deleted last night, puts the cookie right back on my computer for me to delete again. I run CCleaner every night, but never use their "updater" software.

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Mar 15, 2024 19:24:20   #
AirWalter Loc: Tipp City, Ohio
 
Longshadow wrote:
Norton does the same, $ to get the driver(s) updated. The only driver updates I've done in years have been ones from the manufacturer's notice.
Never had a problem only doing those.

I delete all cookies from site "visits" that I normally don't go to a lot. I keep cookies for regularly visited sites (same reason). Firefox is nice, it lists all sites that stored cookies by date last used. VERY easy to select which ones to delete. Most "one time site visits" I will open in a private window in Firefox, no cookies are stored.
Norton does the same, $ to get the driver(s) updat... (show quote)


I do not understand why anyone saves cookies. The site that I just deleted it's cookies puts the cookies right back on my computer the next time I go to their site. They put those cookies on your computer in order to see what you are looking at on your computer so that they can send info to you to try and sell you something else that you probably don't need or want.

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Mar 15, 2024 19:33:02   #
AirWalter Loc: Tipp City, Ohio
 
Bill_R wrote:
I've been using the paid CCleaner for a few years, but lately have started to question how good it really is. For instance, in older versions when I ran the "clean" option, I would be notified that it had found maybe a hundred or so "trackers". Lately, it tells me that it found five or six thousand! So, this number would be based on whatever use my PC gets in one day, since I always run the cleaner and shut down at the end of the day.

Also, the latest version always tells me that it has found several programs that need to be updated. However, when I okay this action, a progress bar pops up, but never seems to make any progress. Last night, this part of the utility ran for more than fifteen minutes and updated nothing.

I'm not going to renew my subscription when it comes due next month. Subscription fatigue played into this decision.
I've been using the paid CCleaner for a few years,... (show quote)


I use the same program, but never use their "updater software". I also never use their automatic cleaner, always use the manual cleaner, and once in awhile I will look at the "registry" cleaner. I never have problems with CCleaner. It gets rid of a lot of unneeded junk, and it works just fine. You might need to reload you CCleaner. I have used CCleaner for years, and it has always done a good job. I never use these extra programs they are adding now.

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Mar 15, 2024 19:34:37   #
AirWalter Loc: Tipp City, Ohio
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Yes! I've had to go through hoops (figuratively) to sign back into sites today. As I used to tell my wife, "Cleaning is overrated."


What are you talking about Jerry, ID's and Passwords?

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Mar 15, 2024 19:54:28   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
AirWalter wrote:
I do not understand why anyone saves cookies. The site that I just deleted it's cookies puts the cookies right back on my computer the next time I go to their site. They put those cookies on your computer in order to see what you are looking at on your computer so that they can send info to you to try and sell you something else that you probably don't need or want.

In general (for all): Cookies aren't programs, they don't "watch" what you are browsing, other than what you do at THEIR website.
They store things like last page visited, maybe how long, some save key information so you don't have to go through hoops the next time you log in.
Cookies are DATA only, saved by the site you're visiting. They don't watch what you do elsewhere on the web.

Now it's possible for another site to see the cookie data IF that site was given permission and the cookie names by the original site that saved the data.

The third party gallery program I use stores a couple of cookies. "I" don't use them, the gallery program does. I have no idea what is in them.
Not all cookies are "bad".
Sites use them mostly for metrics, and "improving" the user experience.-> "The last time you were here you looked at ...". Also, it's less disk space used for them if they store it on your computer.

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Mar 15, 2024 19:57:27   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
AirWalter wrote:
What are you talking about Jerry, ID's and Passwords?

No, they put special key information in cookie(s) and check it when you log in. if it is correct, you were there before.
Kinda like a special pass code.
If the cookie info is not on the computer, it may not be "your" computer, so you have to jump through the hoops again.

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Mar 15, 2024 20:03:59   #
AirWalter Loc: Tipp City, Ohio
 
Longshadow wrote:
In general (for all): Cookies aren't programs, they don't "watch" what you are browsing, other than what you do at THEIR website.
They store things like last page visited, maybe how long, some save key information so you don't have to go through hoops the next time you log in.
Cookies are DATA only, saved by the site you're visiting. They don't watch what you do elsewhere on the web.

Now it's possible for another site to see the cookie data IF that site was given permission and the cookie names by the original site that saved the data.

The third party gallery program I use stores a couple of cookies. "I" don't use them, the gallery program does. I have no idea what is in them.
Not all cookies are "bad".
Sites use them mostly for metrics, and "improving" the user experience.-> "The last time you were here you looked at ...". Also, it's less disk space used for them if they store it on your computer.
In general (for all): Cookies aren't programs, the... (show quote)


I forget where I thought I read that, but if that is all they do why does so many softwares give you the option to get rid of them?

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Mar 15, 2024 20:12:08   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
AirWalter wrote:
I forget where I thought I read that, but if that is all they do why does so many softwares give you the option to get rid of them?

Have you noticed that more sites are asking you to "accept all", "necessary only", ... They tell you what they are used for and provide options.
THAT'S the nice way to do it. So people have the option.

I'd be real careful of where you read stuff, someone might think they're even storing your blood type.........

My statements are based on the fact that I'm a programmer.

BUT, that doesn't stop some places from doing what they want with the data. Only morals and integrity do that.
Mostly marketing....

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Mar 15, 2024 20:21:01   #
AirWalter Loc: Tipp City, Ohio
 
Longshadow wrote:
Have you noticed that more sites are asking you to "accept all", "necessary only", ... They tell you what they are used for and provide options.
THAT'S the nice way to do it. So people have the option.

I'd be real careful of where you read stuff, someone might think they're even storing your blood type.........

My statements are based on the fact that I'm a programmer.

BUT, that doesn't stop some places from doing what they want with the data. Only morals and integrity do that.
Have you noticed that more sites are asking you to... (show quote)


Not to change the subject, but I tried programming once for almost two years with Pascal. I cant program but I can build good gaming computers. Thats when I decided to drive an 18 wheeler for 28 years until I had a heart attack.

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