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Mar 8, 2024 12:52:16   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Red6 wrote:
Could not agree more with Emily and I am happy to hear a pro talk about something I have learned the last few years - the person behind the camera is the most important part of the photo.

I have seen so many examples of this in the past years. I remember in one of the classes I took on photography, a young lady was showing her photos in one our our class assignments and they were breathtaking. The images were not only good technically but the composition provoked such emotional responses in class that one could hear and feel the collective responses. Her equipment - an old Nikon, probably almost as old as she was with a kit-grade lens. I think many of us, I know I was one of them, felt our modern high-tech kit would easily allow us to excel in this assignment. But compared to her, our images were mediocre at best. I have never forgotten that lesson.

I have also seen this in my family. I have a niece with an eye for composition very similar to the lady in my class, and all she uses is a cell phone. She has had several of her images printed in local magazines and they always provoke emotion and wonder. She knows almost nothing about the technical aspects of photography or the use of a computer to edit any of her work, she does it all on her cell phone. When she takes a shot, it has to feel right to her, she seems to have an instinct on how to use the situation at hand for the best effect.

Having a technical background as an engineer, it is difficult for me to separate my interest in the technical aspects of the hobby, but I am trying to develop a more art-like and minimalist approach to photography. Hopefully, good composition can be learned and developed.

I am working toward a goal of doing more with less. To me this means, learning more about the art while eliminating little used and possibly unneeded extra gear. Hopefully, the end result will be better images at lighter weights and less wasted money.
Could not agree more with Emily and I am happy to ... (show quote)


If I can offer any advice, it would be to find gear that enables you to think about the content you are creating, and not the operational aspects required to do the creation. Some systems are indecipherable, while others are intuitive, and which is which varies for each of us. Then, too, brands can do a major re-vamp and confuse us when we buy their new equipment.

Practice is what is required to build muscle memory. It takes time to assimilate techniques into subconscious decision-making skill.

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Mar 8, 2024 12:54:17   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
mvetrano2 wrote:
Interesting, I think I'm going on Ebay and buy a used Kodak Instamatic!


That little LX-10 was about $600...

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Mar 8, 2024 12:59:30   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Bridges wrote:
My takeaway statement was when she said if you have the money you want to spend on equipment, it should be to enhance your experience or enjoyment of photography. I believe a photographer often finds a comfort level in owning a really good piece of equipment. Not that the equipment improves their photography, but improves their state of mind and encourages them to push the limit of what they can accomplish. In other words, seek out situations that advanced equipment will allow where less equipment would not. Example: Would she shoot a full wedding as a professional with a point-and-shoot camera -- no. While the point-and-shoot might be used by a guest for some grab shots, a full-blown wedding would not be shot with one. So someone starting to shoot weddings for pay would be wrongly advised to start with a point-and-shoot and graduate to a more advanced system later.

While she makes a good point in saying the most important part of good photography comes from between your ears, her argument that equipment is not so important is only half right. Good equipment can improve how a person feels about the entire process and therefore elevates their ability as well as presents equipment capable of going beyond the ability of lesser equipment.
My takeaway statement was when she said if you hav... (show quote)


I don't want to discount the role of equipment. Witness her Venn diagram of photography. Once you get into specialty areas, you need special equipment. I'll agree that it's nice to have great gear and that it enhances your self-esteem, perhaps encouraging you to use it. But if it is beyond your ability to lug it around, as it is for many, or if the purpose of your trip isn't just photography, a lesser device is often a better solution.

I wouldn't tell any pro to hold back on equipment if it's needed.

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Mar 8, 2024 13:07:01   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
JohnSwanda wrote:
I have seen plenty of auto races where the fastest car didn't win. Strategy can make the difference.


I lived in Charlotte for 35 years. While I'm not a fan of NASCAR, it's hard to escape its culture there. Strategy INDEED makes a difference. It helps to have the driver and crew with the best strategy. Of course, when you *also* have the best car... you win a lot more.

There were strings of wins over the years that were the result of skill and strategy, and others that were the result of "best cars." Then there were others where best of everything took the prize. The water cooler talk where I worked was always funny. I didn't have to watch in the hot sun while being showered with rubber bits and chicken bones from the fans behind me. I could get the highlights in three minutes.

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Mar 8, 2024 13:10:13   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
JD750 wrote:
A 100 MP raw photo. Definitely don't need that. LOL.


I dunno. If a guy can sell a banana duct taped to white canvas for $120,000 in an art exhibit, a 60"x40 inch tonally rich print of a cat box might surprise us. It's hard to predict what a wealthy eccentric will throw money at next.

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Mar 8, 2024 13:11:49   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Alafoto wrote:
I'm a retired studio owner. I guess that makes me, or made me, a "professional photographer." Heck, I even belonged to the PPA. That doesn't mean that I was a good photographer, only that I made a living by making images that were pleasing to my clients.


In the end, when you're running a business, that is what matters… that, and doing it well enough to keep going tomorrow.

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Mar 8, 2024 13:13:01   #
BebuLamar
 
I don't need any camera. I don't make a living with a camera. Cameras are toys for me so I buy what gives me fun.

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Mar 8, 2024 13:13:11   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
JD750 wrote:
Ah you refer to UID's posts on page 4. That's a good one. I like the guy with the bass viol in the bar too.


Yeah, that's the reference. Quote reply doesn't work when there is no text in a post, does it?

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Mar 8, 2024 14:23:12   #
Randyfrieder Loc: Long Island, New York
 
burkphoto wrote:


As great as new gear is, unless you have a real reason to use it, it's no better than what you already have.


No, I don’t think so.
Sometimes you don’t know what a new item will bring to your life and the inspiration it will help you create.

My argument to this,
using a car as an example:

I have a perfectly good, working car. Does that mean that I don’t ever “need” to get a new car?
Of course, I don’t need a new one.
But, that doesn’t account for the incremental yearly improvements and changes that may or may not, make me a better driver.
There is also the joy, that comes with driving a new car.
A happier driver is a good thing.

Same with my cameras.
I was perfectly happy with the D850. Great camera, it sure served me well.
But, I see the way the world is going,
and it is mirrorless.

I bought the Z9, with no expectations, of better images, both being 45mp, can use the same lenses, etc.

Nope, I bought it because it was a good time for me to switch.

I also had a desire to explore and exploit the new opportunities that the camera brings to the market.

How can you grow, using the same old tools and technologies, and expect to keep up with your competitors??

They are all using the latest technologies, why shouldn’t you??


I had no idea at the time, what a difference that camera would make to me as a professional photographer.

I didn’t buy it because of a particular need.
But, I found many after the fact.


That camera has unquestionably made me a better photographer and I am delivering better images, under many different circumstances/conditions, to my clients.

If I stayed with what I had,
because it did everything that I thought I wanted and needed, I would never have been exposed to the new features of mirrorless in general and the Z9, specifically.
Ymmv
Imho
📸 Regards, Randy 📸

Stagnation is akin to using a view camera, when everyone else is using new kit.

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Mar 8, 2024 14:38:08   #
Harry02 Loc: Gardena, CA
 
Manglesphoto wrote:
I have what I want now and have no need of new gear.
Back in December I was at the camera shop having some prints made, I looked at the Z8 for about 30m secs. first it looked like ahhh well it didn't look good, and it felt worse The came the price I bought my first farm for slightly more. I'll keep my D800 and two D810s


And Illl keep my D200!
AND my D600 and my D800, too.
I have never been disappointed shooting the D200.
Any problems are usually traced right to me and my lens choice.

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Mar 8, 2024 14:41:32   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Start where you are. Buy equipment. Admire other's equipment. Buy more equipment. Sell equipment. Find a new hobby.

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Mar 8, 2024 14:50:51   #
mudhen
 
I was always under the impression that there are different types of photography, like birding, street photography, action photography, astrophotography and so on.

The birders I know usually have a high megapixel camera and long lenses. Something like the Canon R5 or Nikon Z8 or 9, that have very fast focusing and eye detection. Landscape photography, also high megapixels with a large variety of lenses and a tripod is important. Street photography, a good Leica camera with something like a 28mm lens or a little longer.

Here are some examples where I had to choose the proper gear for a specific planned photo shoot. Sometimes you just get lucky.

And I wouldn't show up to a car race in a stock Yugo.







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Mar 8, 2024 15:01:57   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
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Mar 8, 2024 15:22:26   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
mudhen wrote:
I was always under the impression that there are different types of photography, like birding, street photography, action photography, astrophotography and so on.

The birders I know usually have a high megapixel camera and long lenses. Something like the Canon R5 or Nikon Z8 or 9, that have very fast focusing and eye detection. Landscape photography, also high megapixels with a large variety of lenses and a tripod is important. Street photography, a good Leica camera with something like a 28mm lens or a little longer.

Here are some examples where I had to choose the proper gear for a specific planned photo shoot. Sometimes you just get lucky.

And I wouldn't show up to a car race in a stock Yugo.
I was always under the impression that there are d... (show quote)
I suspect if someone wrote “the sky is blue” you would argue that it’s not. If that makes you happy that’s great.

But conflating auto racing and photography is simply ridiculous.

Of course different gear is more suitable for certain genres but that’s not the point of this thread.

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Mar 8, 2024 15:24:54   #
charles brown Loc: Tennesse
 
burkphoto wrote:
Many of you who read my comments know that I'm not a gear nut. I've always believed two things:

Mind over matter — Your photographic knowledge and experience are more important than the hunk of junk in front of your face.

Use the right tool for the job — Don't drive screws with a hammer. Sometimes you do need specialty gear.

Emily at Micro Four Nerds just released a video that is worth watching, and makes my point FAR better than I can. I'll link it below.

A bit of introduction — Emily Lowrey is a professional photographer in the UK. She does a lot of event work like weddings and has a YouTube channel that covers all things Micro Four Thirds and Lumix. Emily's been at it for decades, and knows her stuff. She sells all kinds of Lightroom presets, if you're into that sort of thing.

Most importantly, she cuts through the crap to get to the heart of an issue and lay the cards on the table. So before you think you need a new Whosawhatchit D7590 with four lenses to go on your next adventure, watch the video linked in the post below. It made my day.
Many of you who read my comments know that I'm not... (show quote)


As a get around for GAS I tell myself that I need "different" stuff and get rid of my current stuff before buying the new stuff. Am 82 and have earned the right to be delusional.

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