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Mar 7, 2024 19:28:26   #
Picture Taker Loc: Michigan Thumb
 
As I started serious photography way back in 1950's by taking slides, I had to take the picture perfectly, exposure, framed and proper speed. I still think of it that way, so I crop in my viewfinder. But, today with todays cameras and the pixels you can crop (I use a R 5 with 40MP) giving us a lot of opportunity to crop. So what I an trying to say both ways are now a choice.

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Mar 7, 2024 20:48:22   #
revhen Loc: By the beautiful Hudson
 
Just do your best to take as much of fast-moving wildlife you can and crop if necessary.

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Mar 7, 2024 22:39:07   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
User ID wrote:
Oh ?!? Nothing is left blank ?

So... What happened in July 19, 2015???

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Mar 7, 2024 22:43:55   #
User ID
 
billnikon wrote:
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If you have the time, switch to APS-C mode and put more EFFECTIVE MEGAPIXELS on your subject than you could get by shooting full frame.
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I already know you would never suggest that cropping puts more MP into the image .... but youve added that word "effective" and its not clear how cropping would put more of those "effective MP".

IOW, pleeeeease clarify the apparent magical quality of the idea of "EFFECTIVE" MPs. What on earth does it mean ?

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Mar 8, 2024 04:08:59   #
Delderby Loc: Derby UK
 
PhotoMono123 wrote:
Of course it is nonsense. Then again, "always" doing anything is nonsense. Indeed, there are times when even removing the lens cap is a mistake.

How you frame an image depends on many things. Among them include the subject, the opportunity you have, and the effect you want to achieve.

Whatever you do, do not try to fit your style and technique into someone else's box of rules.


You're telling us what we all know - so don't waste your time - or ours! Rules of thumb are useful reminders.

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Mar 8, 2024 08:56:45   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
MrBob wrote:
Won't AI do that for you now days ...


I have NI, AI not available.

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Mar 8, 2024 09:22:48   #
User ID
 
Delderby wrote:
You're telling us what we all know - so don't waste your time - or ours! Rules of thumb are useful reminders.
Useful for perpetuating cliches.

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Mar 8, 2024 09:42:23   #
Delderby Loc: Derby UK
 
User ID wrote:
Useful for perpetuating cliches.


Rule of thumb IS a cliche.

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Mar 8, 2024 10:07:54   #
User ID
 
Delderby wrote:
Rule of thumb IS a cliche.

Which brings up the actual value of cluches. Cliches are prepackaged, quickly read, and easily digestable packets of communication. That makes them extremely useful in the commercial arena of visual communication, such as in advertising.

A most unfortunate aspect of commercial photographys routine recycling of cliches is what happens as hobbyists are taking their cues from what they see and automatically admire in the work of professionals.

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Mar 8, 2024 10:37:52   #
Delderby Loc: Derby UK
 
How can admiration be automatic?

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Mar 8, 2024 10:38:27   #
fhayes Loc: Madison, Tennessee
 
Longshadow wrote:
Probably not...

I just compose with what I have available, adjust to my liking in post if necessary.


Excellent comment!

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Mar 8, 2024 12:38:09   #
delder Loc: Maryland
 
Rongnongno wrote:
Actually filling the frame is kind of weird, as few folks are able to shoot straight in the first place... Just the action of straightening a capture will force a crop. You also have to take into account that some capture maybe framed with a mat, another case when there must be a 'free space' around the subject.

Add the idea of motion, space and 'fill-the-frame' mantra is just out of the window,

The idea with 'filling the frame is not to be to the edge but making sure that the subject is complete within the frame and that there is no need to crop in order to be 'closer'.

I fill the frame ONLY when I am sure of what I am doing while shooting, usually a static subject and that the capture will not be framed. Since I produce only aluminum print, large format cropping for a frame does not happen.
Actually filling the frame is kind of weird, as fe... (show quote)


I TOTALLY agree with your reply!
1. Straightening takes frame space.
2. Printing [Retail] seems to apply about a 5% Crop. I have found this true since film days when work is sent out.

My artistic opinion is that you SEE a somewat wide frame in life, so there is no harm in replicating what you see.

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Mar 8, 2024 14:42:33   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
The whole point of owning a camera with the most megapixels is that you don’t have to explain things with words.

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Mar 8, 2024 15:21:18   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
The whole point of owning a camera with the most megapixels is that you don’t have to explain things with words.


After all, a picture is worth 726 words (after taking into account the effect of inflation).

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Mar 8, 2024 17:17:33   #
Delderby Loc: Derby UK
 
delder wrote:


My artistic opinion is that you SEE a somewhat wide frame in life, so there is no harm in replicating what you see.


Yes - but you'd need wall to wall coverage. Pictures represent a window we look through.

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