Nikon D800 or 800E
Dec 27, 2012 18:32:25 #
I am going to make the leap to the FX format and was wondering if any of you Nikonians out there have extensive enough experience with both the D800 and D800E to help me with the decision to buy either one. I am upgrading from a D300 and D200. I know the 800E produces a moire when shooting patterns...my focus of work will be landscape, animals and real estate virtual tours. No studio. I have 35 years of printing industry experience so the world of imagery is not foreign to me. Am just curious if it is worth it to jump from the D800 to the D800E. Any help with sample images if you so desire would be very helpful. Thanks in advance for your help.
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Merry Christmas and Happy New Year
Dec 27, 2012 18:56:11 #
rrg6481 wrote:
I am going to make the leap to the FX format and w... (show quote)
I would guess that MTShooter might be your best shot. I would jump at the chance to get this body-- but financials prohibit.
Dec 27, 2012 19:05:09 #
Dec 27, 2012 19:06:49 #
Hmmm. Eny, Meeny, Miney, Moe. 30 + years of photographing dogs.. and your budget, you should be able to make that decision on your own. I mean with your thirty years of experience.
Dec 27, 2012 19:09:27 #
rrg6481 wrote:
....Hmmmm...pardon my ignorance...what is MTShooter?
Who is "MTShooter"... he is a regular contributor on UHH.
Dec 27, 2012 19:11:10 #
never said 30 years of shooting dogs or anything else. Have 35 years in the printing industry...as in offset and such. Shooting dslrs for 5 years....whats your beef eh?
Dec 27, 2012 19:12:27 #
Dec 27, 2012 20:08:34 #
brokeweb wrote:
Hmmm. Eny, Meeny, Miney, Moe. 30 + years of photographing dogs.. and your budget, you should be able to make that decision on your own. I mean with your thirty years of experience.
Don't quite get this. The guy is asking for advice. Why are you busting his chops?
Dec 27, 2012 20:12:34 #
The D800E offers slightly better resolution...to be honest, I'd take either one! Everybody thinks MTShooter is a new kind of camera.
Dec 28, 2012 06:17:32 #
Get enough ram in your computer to handle 45 +mb files. I only rented an 800 when it came out. It was an ok camera. Files are huge. Enjoy.
Dec 28, 2012 06:17:35 #
Get enough ram in your computer to handle 45 +mb files. I only rented an 800 when it came out. It was an ok camera. Files are huge. Enjoy.
Dec 28, 2012 06:17:36 #
Get enough ram in your computer to handle 45 +mb files. I only rented an 800 when it came out. It was an ok camera. Files are huge. Enjoy.
Dec 28, 2012 06:18:09 #
Dec 28, 2012 06:33:34 #
saichiez
Loc: Beautiful Central Oregon
rrg6481 wrote:
I am going to make the leap to the FX format and w... (show quote)
Nikon took some liberties on the AA filter, or Low Pass filter to increase OOC sharpness. Some people translate this as better or increased resolution. It is not. a weaker end result of tweaking the AA/Lowpass filter is increasing the chance of Moire. Moire is reduced by a strong AA filter. The result of a stronger AA filter is increase in the possibility of Moire.
Moire, when it does occur, is more easily removed than the sharpening artifacts.
So, the 800E produces sharper OOC images. That would be my choice. I use Olympus PEN cameras because of their weaker AA, ie sharper OOC filters. They have about 4 years experience with the AA/lowpass filter modifications. I've never seen Moire in my images, but I have been nicely rewarded with more usable OOC images. Other mfrs are starting to recognize and follow this image improvement. The 800E is Nikons entry.
LifePixel, noted for their Infrared conversions, explains the AA filter/low pass filter removal for Nikon and other cameras headed this way.
http://www.lifepixel.com/blog/anti-aliasing-low-pass-filter-removal
Dec 28, 2012 06:59:16 #
I am a D800 owner, and am extraordinarily happy with the camera.
The D800E will deliver slightly sharper images in the wider apertures, (less than f8). Moire will also be more pronounced on some subjects. At f8 or higher, diffraction limitation will act similarly to an AA filter resulting in virtually identical detail resolution.
If you shoot at < f8 frequently, and moire inducing objects are uncommon, then go for the E. If you feel uncomfortable about using a camera in which moire could on occasion be problematic stick with the D800. The small size of the pixels works in favour of the E, such that moire is less likely to be a factor unless fine threaded fabrics, far away screens and roof tile are common in your images.
As stated, I purchased the D800, and am exceedingly happy with it. I bought it because it was available in March when I purchased it. If the D800E were available I would likely have bought it instead, but truth be told the either are exceptional cameras, and both require the very best glass and camera holding technique to realise their full potential.
Attached cropped image was taken with D800 at f4 with 105mm micro-nikkor at 1/250 using a flash, using my tripod as a gunstock.
The D800E will deliver slightly sharper images in the wider apertures, (less than f8). Moire will also be more pronounced on some subjects. At f8 or higher, diffraction limitation will act similarly to an AA filter resulting in virtually identical detail resolution.
If you shoot at < f8 frequently, and moire inducing objects are uncommon, then go for the E. If you feel uncomfortable about using a camera in which moire could on occasion be problematic stick with the D800. The small size of the pixels works in favour of the E, such that moire is less likely to be a factor unless fine threaded fabrics, far away screens and roof tile are common in your images.
As stated, I purchased the D800, and am exceedingly happy with it. I bought it because it was available in March when I purchased it. If the D800E were available I would likely have bought it instead, but truth be told the either are exceptional cameras, and both require the very best glass and camera holding technique to realise their full potential.
Attached cropped image was taken with D800 at f4 with 105mm micro-nikkor at 1/250 using a flash, using my tripod as a gunstock.
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