Buying a New Car?
Mar 2, 2024 08:21:21 #
Morry wrote:
I have used this reliability report most all of my life and it has served me well. Too bad American cars are not doing better. I'm especially sorry to see Lincoln so low on the list.
And look at Mercedes and Chrysler!
As far as I'm concerned, reliability is the most important factor, followed by MPG.
Mar 2, 2024 08:26:30 #
Mar 2, 2024 08:27:41 #
agillot wrote:
There are still cars under 20k .
This isn't a good listing, though.
https://cars.usnews.com/cars-trucks/advice/cheapest-cars-on-the-market
Better -
Cheapest New Cars
1. 2023 Mitsubishi Mirage ES: $17,790
2. 2023 Kia Rio LX: $17,875
3. 2023 Nissan Versa S: $18,745
4. 2023 Kia Forte LX: $20,815
5. 2023 Hyundai Venue SE: $20,985
6. 2023 Kia Soul LX: $21,215
7. 2024 Chevrolet Trax LS: $21,495
8. 2023 Nissan Sentra S: $21,725
9. 2023 Nissan Kicks S: $21,925
10. 2023 Hyundai Elantra SE: $22,065
For 2024 - https://www.motortrend.com/features/cheapest-new-cars/
Mar 2, 2024 08:27:49 #
Wow, a British car in the top 3. Yes, I know BMW is the owner but engines, etc. are made in England. I own a 2021 Countryman S with very low miles and have owned 2 others in the past along with 8 Jags.
Mar 2, 2024 08:51:55 #
dbrugger25
Loc: Raleigh, NC
Just my luck! I have a Mercedes Benz and a Chrysler. I SURE know how to pick-um!
Mar 2, 2024 09:06:24 #
nicelifter
Loc: erie,pa
jerryc41 wrote:
Here are reliability ratings based on owner reports to Consumer Reports. I just signed up for their online subscription, and I get several newsletters.
I see Mitsubishi isn’t listed in the list I have never had any problems with my outlander sports that I owned
Mar 2, 2024 09:34:23 #
With Consumer Reports I find you have to carefully review what they are considering important, items which may or may not be important to the reader.
Often, they show their scoring system and you can, if so inclined, recalculate based on what is important to you.
As someone noted, cost is usually quite highly weighted, which may or may not be important to you; ditto for fuel economy. Maybe they've added a section for third row seating of SUVs, which might not be of interest.
Usually, they give clear details of how they derived their rating. Simply looking at their numbers without interpretation won't deliver the info you need to help make good decisions. And for most people, choice of a vehicle involves emotion, for whatever reason. Try persuading a Ford guy to buy a Chevy!
A great example of the differences between data, information & knowledge.
Often, they show their scoring system and you can, if so inclined, recalculate based on what is important to you.
As someone noted, cost is usually quite highly weighted, which may or may not be important to you; ditto for fuel economy. Maybe they've added a section for third row seating of SUVs, which might not be of interest.
Usually, they give clear details of how they derived their rating. Simply looking at their numbers without interpretation won't deliver the info you need to help make good decisions. And for most people, choice of a vehicle involves emotion, for whatever reason. Try persuading a Ford guy to buy a Chevy!
A great example of the differences between data, information & knowledge.
Mar 2, 2024 09:36:28 #
jerryc41 wrote:
Here are reliability ratings based on owner reports to Consumer Reports. I just signed up for their online subscription, and I get several newsletters.
My wife and I have only once ever purchased a new car, and that was a 1989 Honda Accord DX purchased in October 1988. All the others have been used. Currently we have a used 2020 Subaru Forester Limited that was two years old when we purchased it with a "Previously Owned" warranty.
Mar 2, 2024 10:09:03 #
Use the list for the cars owners would definitely buy again. That’s better than the reliability index for how good the car is. Any car at or near the top on both lists is a winner.
Mar 2, 2024 10:09:49 #
Mar 2, 2024 10:12:29 #
andesbill wrote:
We owned 2 foresters and a Crosstrek. We loved all 3.
Mar 2, 2024 10:15:14 #
BebuLamar wrote:
The thought scares me. I do kind of need a new car but the thought scares me and I don't really want to think about it.
Think about watching and waiting.
Best time to buy a new “present year” car is when the next year models come out.
Also, if you have a good credit score, Watch for lower interest and other incentives, and wait till the feds drop the interest rates some more.
MOST IMPORTANT…buy with your brain, not your heart.
Good tactic, especially if the salesperson is pushy…don’t be afraid to walk away from the table or out the door.
Mar 2, 2024 10:29:13 #
We love Subarus. Currently we have a 2018 Legacy and a 2023 Crosstrek Sport. Prior to that, in chronological order we had 1996 Jeep, 2002 Impreza Outback Sport, a 2011 Legacy, and a 2013 Impreza (a lemon.)
BTW our 1st Subaru (2002 Impreza) was better in the snow than the Jeep.
BTW our 1st Subaru (2002 Impreza) was better in the snow than the Jeep.
Mar 2, 2024 10:31:59 #
Indi wrote:
Think about watching and waiting.
Best time to buy a new “present year” car is when the next year models come out.
Also, if you have a good credit score, Watch for lower interest and other incentives, and wait till the feds drop the interest rates some more.
MOST IMPORTANT…buy with your brain, not your heart.
Good tactic, especially if the salesperson is pushy…don’t be afraid to walk away from the table or out the door.
Best time to buy a new “present year” car is when the next year models come out.
Also, if you have a good credit score, Watch for lower interest and other incentives, and wait till the feds drop the interest rates some more.
MOST IMPORTANT…buy with your brain, not your heart.
Good tactic, especially if the salesperson is pushy…don’t be afraid to walk away from the table or out the door.
I have good credit. I used to be able to finance for 5 years with no down payment and no interest. But since the interest rate is high now I don't think that will happen. If I buy a car now I think I will pay cash.
Mar 2, 2024 10:49:05 #
andesbill wrote:
Use the list for the cars owners would definitely buy again. That’s better than the reliability index for how good the car is. Any car at or near the top on both lists is a winner.
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