Buying a New Car? (Page 3): I'm surprised that Tesla came in at #14.

Vladimir200 Loc: Beaumont, Ca.

I'm surprised that Tesla came in at #14.

BebuLamar

Vladimir200 wrote:

I'm surprised that Tesla came in at #14.

do you expect it lower or higher? I heard Tesla quality are not good.

Vladimir200 Loc: Beaumont, Ca.

BebuLamar wrote:

do you expect it lower or higher? I heard Tesla quality are not good.

I was expecting it to be higher. Your comment that Tesla quality not good is interesting. I've not done a deep dive so I have to admit, I'm clueless on this topic. I must admit, however, I do see a lot of Teslas on the road and the few Tesla owners I know seem to love them. I don't own an EV and not completely sure they are really ready for prime time yet but again, I've done no research.

BebuLamar

Vladimir200 wrote:

I was expecting it to be higher. Your comment that Tesla quality not good is interesting. I've not done a deep dive so I have to admit, I'm clueless on this topic. I must admit, however, I do see a lot of Teslas on the road and the few Tesla owners I know seem to love them. I don't own an EV and not completely sure they are really ready for prime time yet but again, I've done no research.

I think customers satisfaction of the Tesla is high but they do have a lot of quality problem. And most of the problems are of poor built quality and not poor design.

Timmers Loc: San Antonio Texas.

kpmac wrote:

You still trust Consumer Reports, Jerry?

Years ago I read the Consumer Report for the Leica M4 camera, it was nothing but bad. The single most reliable camera in the world and their report ad nothing but negatives about the M4 Leica. That told me one clear message, to avoid Consumer Report, it had to be bad itself.

ELNikkor

My son panicked and pulled over when the check-engine light came on in our 2010 Odyssey. He gingerly made it home, afraid the engine was about to seize up. That was 5 years and 60,000 miles ago. With 220,000 miles on it, check engine light still occasionally goes on, (right now, it is off), but the only repair we've done was a front right ball-joint in those 5 years.

BebuLamar

Timmers wrote:

Years ago I read the Consumer Report for the Leica M4 camera, it was nothing but bad. The single most reliable camera in the world and their report ad nothing but negatives about the M4 Leica. That told me one clear message, to avoid Consumer Report, it had to be bad itself.

I found Consumer Report review is truthful. You just have to know what they deem important and what is not. But sure you can say that M4 is nothing but bad depending what is important to you.
You can say the viewfinder is not as accurate as an el cheapo SLR
You can say you need a meter.
You can say that the cloth shutter is so outdated design.
Of course those are all the good things about the Leica and what you pay Leica money for.

Vaun's photography Loc: Bonney Lake, WA

Quite interesting! Thanks for sharing.

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

DirtFarmer wrote:

I had a Dakota light pickup. At 150K miles it became a farm truck*. At 200K it became a field truck (no public road usage). At 250K I retired and left it to the next generation.

* A farm truck is a truck with a farm plate.

I've seen quite a few of them over the years. It's probably something like a Dealer plate.

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

BebuLamar wrote:

I found Consumer Report review is truthful.

Of course, and their reliability ratings are based on thousands of owners reporting on whatever the product is.

They present the pros and cons, and you decide whether or not a product is for you.

Lens Cap Loc: The Cold North Coast

Sounds like this is based on peoples opinions not facts or statistics

jerryc41 wrote:

Here are reliability ratings based on owner reports to Consumer Reports. I just signed up for their online subscription, and I get several newsletters.

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

Lens Cap wrote:

Sounds like this is based on peoples opinions not facts or statistics

In their annual survey, they ask members if they have bought certain items (cars, appliances, cell phones) within a certain time period. Then they ask questions about any problems they had with the item. Unless all the owners of American cars decided to lie about the reliability of their cars, I see no reason to doubt what they report.

BebuLamar

jerryc41 wrote:

In their annual survey, they ask members if they have bought certain items (cars, appliances, cell phones) within a certain time period. Then they ask questions about any problems they had with the item. Unless all the owners of American cars decided to lie about the reliability of their cars, I see no reason to doubt what they report.

Consumer Reports gives a lot of weight for price. If 2 items about the same the cheaper one would have much better ranking.

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

BebuLamar wrote:

Consumer Reports gives a lot of weight for price.

So do I.

Morry Loc: Palm Springs, CA

jerryc41 wrote:

Here are reliability ratings based on owner reports to Consumer Reports. I just signed up for their online subscription, and I get several newsletters.

I have used this reliability report most all of my life and it has served me well. Too bad American cars are not doing better. I'm especially sorry to see Lincoln so low on the list.