ken_stern Loc: Yorba Linda, Ca

Dennis the Cretin is always in search of the final last word -----------

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

And ken the Maroon is still speaking. Must be trying for the last word. Oh isn't final and last somewhat saying the same thing? How about one or the other?

I see you gave me a thumbs down. Why would you think I don't have a right to speak my piece even though you may not agree. Surely you are intelligent enough to realize millions of other people in America would completely agree with my point of view. Why does the Left want to shut down free speech from those who do not agree with the lying bullshit crap you post? Isn't that sort of a Socialist point of view, shutting down political opponents?

Dennis

Texcaster Loc: Queensland

No, that would be Hungarian PM and alt-democracy expert Viktor Orban. He's long been the darling of 'minor-authoritarian-party-rule' wannabees like Trump. If he can stay out of jail for a year and he wins ... Lord Bigly will never leave the room and you'll all be doing the 'trump's-retribution-happy-dance'.

btw - "Nixon's Farewell" is fiddle tune ... someone will write "Trump's Retribution". Until then ... "He's In The Jailhouse Now" will have to do.

Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.

Sadly Art, if things continue as they are your guy is going to get smoked.

mikee

Well, you started with word salad, transitioned to unsubstantiated insults, slid into supporting sexual assault, bounced off homophobia, lost any useful punctuation in the process, and finished back at word salad. You accomplished a great Fundamentals of Logic exercise on how not to win a debate.

Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!

Do you even know what phobia means?

FrumCA

They like to THINK they speak for the rest of us but in reality all they do is regurgitate tried and true liberal/progressive nonsense and talking points most of which are immediately relegated to the BS bin.

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

Even MORE asinine bullshit and lies from you. Nobody is surprised. That is what you do. So incapable of presenting accurate assessments from others and so often piss poor lies you are doomed to lie and spread misinformation. Of course you are the poster boy for Biden’s corrupt Left so no surprise there.

Every word posted add up to nothing but unsubstantiated lies and bullshit. Congratulations on your lack of presentation skills.

Dennis

JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.

I always chuckle to myself when you use this kind of argument without seeing the truth behind it.

In truth, MORE millions of Americans DON'T think the way you do.

Thus, any "speaking on behalf of millions of Americans" who think differently from you is simply reflecting a majority sentiment... and that is democracy at work.

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

Not necessarily true my friend. There are a great many Americans who actually do believe in Conservatism, who do think Joe Biden is a lying corrupt President who is harming America. But they are afraid to speak their views as I and others do here in The Attic due to extreme negative pressure from their friends, some of whom may feel the same way.

This next election cycle, IF Trump wins the election will you then tell me the very same thing, the majority of Americans selected Trump. Surely you are intelligent enough to know the majority can change in a heartbeat. Another thing you always as in ALWAYS fail to recognize is the majority quite possibly can be wrong. Take the example of a lynch mob trying to take a suspected killer away from law enforcement to hang. They would be the majority at the time but are they right? Not in my book and shouldn't be in yours either. I actually had that happen once on a New Years Eve when I arrested a drunk driver in his own neighborhood. About 20 of his friends demanded I release him and drive off. Things got pretty ugly for a few minutes but he went to jail and was convicted. They were a majority John. Were they in the right? You tell me.

You won't agree but much of what happens these days is bullshit spread by a media who wants to side with the Left. Lies have been pushed about Trump. The Liberal media supports those lies. Take a good look at Fani Willis these days. She is being questioned in court about her romantic relationship with one of her attorneys. It SEEMS both are lying under oath. Do you as an avowed Left Winger support her charges against Trump when she herself is most likely going to be found guilty of perjury? You will note I am not saying she is guilty but neither is Trump is he; not until he has been given his day in court. Willis deserves her day in court too.

A majority of lying corrupt Left Wingers said Trump was guilty of Russia Collusion. After 3 years and millions of dollars there was no evidence at all to show that was true. But as you say, it was a MAJORITY right. So was he guilty. Seems the lying corrupt Left Wing majority was completely wrong wasn't it?

Dennis

Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.

Have a question for ya John.... Do you think that some of the most senior political operatives in DC are more concerned with the wishes of the monied donor class or their constituents back home.

JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.

I have no doubt about that.

But tell me, do you not agree that many Republicans are afraid of losing their seats if they don't support Trump? How about the likes of Lindsay Graham who said he had enough of Trump right after 6 Jan, and is now kissing the ring (or lower)? And he is not alone in this situation; McConnell is another who was finished with Trump and then turned tail. What about the many presidential challengers on the right who badmouthed Trump and are now supporting him?

It is my considered opinion that all politicians suffer from some degree of fear of losing their positions. But I also see much more hypocrisy on the Right than on the Left in that regard. There are many who privately admit that Trump is a terrible person to lead the country, but in public they keep those sentiments to themselves. The sad thing is they don't have the balls to support someone else -- anyone else -- who would be a better POTUS than Trump while still pushing/supporting Conservative values.

I don't care if POTUS is a Democrat or a Republican; I DO CARE if it turns out to be Trump.

Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.

In my opinion they are all sold out, the graft of the Biden family is probably somewhat common in DC and that is why so many there remain quiet on the issue. Don't for a moment think that the Democrats have any more integrity than the Republicans, both parties play in the swamp and both enrich themselves through the power of their government positions.

That is the problem with our government and that is exactly the reason that Trump came to power and continues to exercise such influence on the Republican Party because the base is tired of a government that is not responsive to their needs and the futures of their children.

JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.

I agree as to why Trump came to power. He was not experienced in government, and that was seen as an asset, given the displeasure with virtually all government people. Why not try to run the government like a business? That seemed like a nice logical and refreshing change.

But what Trump promised and what he delivered are not the same thing.

Trump may claim to be a successful businessman, but his methods of operating his businesses are underhanded and unscrupulous; and he tried to run the country in a similar way. Many Republicans, including virtually all who served is his Cabinets, have recognized he should not be POTUS a second time and have declared him a danger to democracy. But very few -- especially those in Congress -- will openly admit their true feelings about Trump.

I completely understand your position as a Republican on not liking Biden. But you will be voting for Trump only because of your displeasure with Biden and/or Democrats. The sad thing is that the MAGAs are ensuring that there are no alternatives on the Republican side. That leaves sensible Republicans with no choice but to take the lesser of the evils... and for these Republicans that is Trump.

I -- and the majority of voters (at least in 2020) -- feel just the opposite. I really wish there were a better choice for Democrats because I think Biden is past his prime, but I would take Biden over Trump in the blink of an eye. Trump is the lowest of humanity, and whether you believe it or not HE IS destroying America. He has divided the country irreparably; he has normalized lying, name-calling and racism; he has turned your entire judicial system into a clown show where SCOTUS is afraid of making the right decision(s) for fear of a civil war. And on the world stage the US lost the respect of Allies because of his petulance and arrogance.

I do... and I don't... look forward to November.

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

Why is it John you say all of this about Trump and Republicans while not mentioning the Congressional Left? Don't you also think those people fear losing their seats as well?

In your complaints about Trump you fail to mention he really did do things FOR America. If he didn't, if millions of people thought he was a terrible President then explain why they would be supporting him now over Biden. You on the Left seem to have this idiotic misguided thought that those of us who are Conservatives are idiots and have not noticed Trump's negatives. Yes there are some and I have admitted to them several times. But he has not been corrupt in his Presidential duties in my opinion. If he is the up front candidate I will definitely vote for him. I will never vote for a Democrat again even for dog catcher. For me the Democratic Party has definitely shown no desire to work for the American people, in fact to work against We the People and for themselves as a Party. They are doing nothing for Americans and haven't done anything more than talk as if they are for decades now.

Look at your daddy, POS Biden, when he told a black man, if you don't vote for me you ain't black. Talk about Racist eh? For decades, maybe 100 years the black race has supported the Democratic Party. The problem is the Democratic Party has never supported them. Many blacks are realizing that right now and many will most likely be voting for Trump. You may not like Trump as a person and I may feel the same for some categories. But he does support We the People. Trump did try to clean out the corrupt swamp and yet not one of you Left Wingers gives him credit for that. To his surprise it was comprised of swamp like corrupt Republicans too, McConnell, Graham and others. Yet you on the Left still support the entire swamp because they seem to be working together to screw Americans.

Dennis