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Feb 26, 2024 07:21:56   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
terryMc wrote:
I know a "professional fine art photographer" who told me he was self-taught—just before asking me which it was, shutter or aperture, that controlled depth of field. "I can never remember that."

I chose to pay for an education but never got a degree, and I have had people laugh at me for wasting that money when the best way to learn is to "just keep shooting a lot of pictures." Then I see what they have accomplished by doing that, and I wonder who really had the best way...
I know a "professional fine art photographer&... (show quote)
I hope the people laughing at you aren't your friends

Certainly lots of ways to learn (I prefer reading over visual).

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Feb 26, 2024 07:25:07   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
Blenheim Orange wrote:
I am surprised by the responses. I would not have expected this to be controversial.
It's a quarterly topic. You just haven't been around enough the past few years, Mike.

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Feb 26, 2024 07:29:35   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
btbg wrote:
...There is no harm in providing data, only in not properly assessing the data.
Well said. There's still the issue, though, of how does one assess if we don't know the reasons the photographer chose those settings. For a novice with little experience, and no guidance except the numbers, that's going to be tough.

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Feb 26, 2024 07:32:51   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
... Historically I remember it as being a thing in just about every photography publication.
Do you think that was more for film and SLR's? Thinking of all the sensor sizes now, focal length and depth of field have to be compared to full frame to get any kind of "equivalency."

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Feb 26, 2024 07:38:49   #
BebuLamar
 
terryMc wrote:
I know a "professional fine art photographer" who told me he was self-taught—just before asking me which it was, shutter or aperture, that controlled depth of field. "I can never remember that."

I chose to pay for an education but never got a degree, and I have had people laugh at me for wasting that money when the best way to learn is to "just keep shooting a lot of pictures." Then I see what they have accomplished by doing that, and I wonder who really had the best way...
I know a "professional fine art photographer&... (show quote)


Even if he is self taught the reason he didn't understand the shutter speed and aperture was because those were not what he was interested in. And he proved that for his purpose he didn't need to know them.
I also paid for my education and earned over 120 credits hours with grade point average of 3.5 but don't have a degree because I took what I like and also I did it over so many years and only took courses when I had money to pay for them and they changed the curriculum.

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Feb 26, 2024 07:53:36   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
JohnSwanda wrote:
People often post here that they are going to a specific location or to shoot a particular event and ask what settings they should use.



Yes, they should use settings!!!
Definitely!

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Feb 26, 2024 07:56:43   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Canisdirus wrote:
There is a strong placebo effect that runs through all of photography.

Some of that is certainly to help other photographers (folks just looking at the images could not care less about that info naturally)

But it is also part of the placebo...

Someone who takes an image...if they took it with a Leica...they want you to know that. It works in their favor if you do. Same with lenses...etc.

You don't see paintings with a list of paint types they used or brushes...usually just photography.

It's free marketing...of the mind.

Most folks do it...most sites encourage it.
There is a strong placebo effect that runs through... (show quote)



And some like to analyze the crap out of stuff.

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Feb 26, 2024 07:57:58   #
BebuLamar
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
Do you think that was more for film and SLR's? Thinking of all the sensor sizes now, focal length and depth of field have to be compared to full frame to get any kind of "equivalency."


I don't think so. Back in the days when they published aperture, shutter speed, film used like Tri-x 4x5, 35mm, 120 etc.. and with that you would know what format they used. Today if they do that they should publish the camera model as well.

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Feb 26, 2024 07:58:10   #
BigQ
 
Curious that you say curious. The guidelines are what you would expect from a forum about photography, with a mixture of skill levels. I think camera, lens and the triangle should be on every photo posted. Easy to just ignore if you have no interest.

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Feb 26, 2024 08:00:18   #
BebuLamar
 
BigQ wrote:
Curious that you say curious. The guidelines are what you would expect from a forum about photography, with a mixture of skill levels. I think camera, lens and the triangle should be on every photo posted. Easy to just ignore if you have no interest.


Although I do know the aperture/shutter speed/ISO even when I shoot in Auto but what if someone doesn't remember?

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Feb 26, 2024 08:20:02   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
BebuLamar wrote:
Although I do know the aperture/shutter speed/ISO even when I shoot in Auto but what if someone doesn't remember?



Before EXIF information, it had to be written down, for each shot.... NOT.
I never did, I just shot.

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Feb 26, 2024 08:26:08   #
Nortfish Loc: Port St. Lucie, Fla
 
btbg wrote:
It's amazing to me that people try to make a simple choice controversial. If you don't like data, then don't bother looking at it. If you like data then look at it.

Whether the data is helpful depends on how the person looking at the data actually evaluates it. For example what shutter speed someone uses can be very informational when someone is shooting waves or waterfalls. If someone wants to blur a waterfall then perhaps looking at the data from a number of photos that blurred the water will give the individual a starting point.

I have a book titled Photograph Like A Thief. The book is about how to analyze a photo, including where the light source is, the exposure data and other clues to how the photo was taken so that you can recreate either the photo or the style of photo.

It isn't something that is for everyone. If you know what you are shooting and are happy with the results then you probably do not need that kind of information. On the other hand, if you are wanting to experiment seeing something that someone else did that is similar to what you want to try may help you succeed in shooting that style or subject matter more quickly.

There is no harm in providing data, only in not properly assessing the data.
It's amazing to me that people try to make a simpl... (show quote)


Totally agree with you. Information is only valuable to people who have a need or interest to use it. There seems to be a lot of people on this forum that know everything they care to know about their hobby or business.

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Feb 26, 2024 08:31:18   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
When I was reading photo mags, I liked seeing how a shot was taken. It helped to put it into perspective.

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Feb 26, 2024 08:40:20   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
jerryc41 wrote:
When I was reading photo mags, I liked seeing how a shot was taken. It helped to put it into perspective.



Me: "I aimed, I shot, I printed."

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Feb 26, 2024 08:55:55   #
Bubbee Loc: Aventura, Florida
 
I definitely like to know as much info as possible, including PP.

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