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Feb 25, 2024 17:59:21   #
fantom Loc: Colorado
 
terryMc wrote:
My Z8 has at least a half-dozen metering modes and I probably use spot metering and Matrix metering 99.9% of the time and don't even bother with the others. Even the newest most sophisticated meters still just convert your scene to an average gray. It's really all about where in the scene the computer is gathering its information from, but if I post my metering mode with a picture will it give you the info you need to make the same exposure, or do you think you might have to know something else as well?
My Z8 has at least a half-dozen metering modes and... (show quote)


It will tell me what metering mode produced that specific exposure for the pic as a whole.

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Feb 25, 2024 18:20:48   #
terryMc Loc: Arizona's White Mountains
 
fantom wrote:
It will tell me what metering mode produced that specific exposure for the pic as a whole.


For that specific place, that specific time of day, that specific subject, and those specific lighting conditions, you will know what settings the camera chose to recommend. If I say "I spot metered this area on the bird as he sat there" you will know that the meter read and exposed for that tiny spot, but you won't get much useful knowledge from that I'm afraid.

I think that taking a class on how cameras work and then practicing after gaining that knowledge is a more practical way to learn than looking at others' exposure modes.

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Feb 25, 2024 18:45:58   #
daledo Loc: Billings, MT
 
I find the settings, camera and lens information educational and triggers to thought. In seeing the image and considering the settings I am prompted to see the good and bad results of their selection. I often don't pay enough attention to my own settings until the picture is already taken and getting in the habit of looking at the settings of others helps me consider my own before it's to late. I also like knowing what camera and lens was used particularly when it's one of those that I own and can see what others have accomplished with the same equipment.

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Feb 25, 2024 18:46:29   #
RodeoMan Loc: St Joseph, Missouri
 
terryMc wrote:
I know a "professional fine art photographer" who told me he was self-taught—just before asking me which it was, shutter or aperture, that controlled depth of field. "I can never remember that."

I chose to pay for an education but never got a degree, and I have had people laugh at me for wasting that money when the best way to learn is to "just keep shooting a lot of pictures." Then I see what they have accomplished by doing that, and I wonder who really had the best way...
I know a "professional fine art photographer&... (show quote)


Time that you "enjoyed wasting" is not "wasted time".

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Feb 25, 2024 18:50:29   #
Vladimir200 Loc: Beaumont, Ca.
 
Blenheim Orange wrote:
I am interested in knowing the choices the photographer made. What's the harm?


I agree................

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Feb 25, 2024 18:59:34   #
Blenheim Orange Loc: Michigan
 
Vladimir200 wrote:
I agree................


I am surprised by the responses. I would not have expected this to be controversial.

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Feb 25, 2024 19:05:11   #
JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco
 
R.G. wrote:
If the settings were well chosen then they are a good example and worth knowing.

If, on the other hand, the ISO was several stops higher than it needed to be, the choice wasn't a good example and it's potentially misleading and/or confusing.


If there are problems with the settings it can be a learning experience for the person who shot the photos. We have seen many cases where someone gave their settings, or others checked their EXIF and discovered the shutter speed or ISO seems too high, or the aperture seems too small, etc. and advised them based on that.

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Feb 25, 2024 20:05:48   #
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RodeoMan wrote:
Yep, they just hold their hands up with the left thumb down and pointer finger pointing right and the right thumb up with pointer finger pointing left making a viewing square, they look through this and say "click".

Mine has e-shutter, so Im never saying "click". Spray & Pray ! Usually seeing bursts at 75 fps.
Mine has e-shutter, so Im never saying "click". Sp...
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Feb 25, 2024 20:13:28   #
delder Loc: Maryland
 
A basic understanding of the exposure triangle is STILL valuable for the understanding of available light photography.

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Feb 25, 2024 20:51:08   #
fantom Loc: Colorado
 
terryMc wrote:
For that specific place, that specific time of day, that specific subject, and those specific lighting conditions, you will know what settings the camera chose to recommend. If I say "I spot metered this area on the bird as he sat there" you will know that the meter read and exposed for that tiny spot, but you won't get much useful knowledge from that I'm afraid.

I think that taking a class on how cameras work and then practicing after gaining that knowledge is a more practical way to learn than looking at others' exposure modes.
For that specific place, that specific time of day... (show quote)


I think after retaining a library of over 400K photos, virtually all shot in manual mode and almost 60 years of experience, shot on five continents, you might begin to understand why, in certain circumstances, knowledge is good.
Pls, don't bother replying as this silly conversation is going nowhere.
Have a nice rest of the day.

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Feb 25, 2024 20:58:02   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
terryMc wrote:
For that specific place, that specific time of day, that specific subject, and those specific lighting conditions, you will know what settings the camera chose to recommend. If I say "I spot metered this area on the bird as he sat there" you will know that the meter read and exposed for that tiny spot, but you won't get much useful knowledge from that I'm afraid.

I think that taking a class on how cameras work and then practicing after gaining that knowledge is a more practical way to learn than looking at others' exposure modes.
For that specific place, that specific time of day... (show quote)


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Feb 25, 2024 21:01:50   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
fantom wrote:
I think after retaining a library of over 400K photos, virtually all shot in manual mode and almost 60 years of experience, shot on five continents, you might begin to understand why, in certain circumstances, knowledge is good.
Pls, don't bother replying as this silly conversation is going nowhere.
Have a nice rest of the day.

Whoa, bowing down with arms extended....
not.

Just because you have all that behind you doesn't have any relation to the usability of ƒ-stop, speed, ISO, and camera information for someone else's photograph.

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Feb 25, 2024 21:24:21   #
RodeoMan Loc: St Joseph, Missouri
 
You got me there. I can't say "click" at 75 wps/ words per sec/

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Feb 25, 2024 21:41:59   #
terryMc Loc: Arizona's White Mountains
 
Longshadow wrote:
Whoa, bowing down with arms extended....
not.

Just because you have all that behind you doesn't have any relation to the usability of ƒ-stop, speed, ISO, and camera information for someone else's photograph.


Careful, there. He shot 4000000000 pictures in manual mode.

I'll bet he's good.

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Feb 25, 2024 21:43:33   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
Longshadow wrote:
Whoa, bowing down with arms extended....
not.

Just because you have all that behind you doesn't have any relation to the usability of ƒ-stop, speed, ISO, and camera information for someone else's photograph.


Ignorance is bliss!

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