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Feb 25, 2024 09:22:26   #
JW from PA
 
Just curious as to the canon users on this site their thoughts on which one you would purchase if you were wanting a new wildlife lenses. Just so you all know, I have watched several reviews and I already own the 100-500 and converter. I am however considering buying the 200-800. Thanks for your input.

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Feb 25, 2024 09:30:16   #
JW from PA
 
Title correction. Canon 200-800 F9 vs Canon 100-500 W/ 1.4 Converter

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Feb 25, 2024 11:06:02   #
MountainDave
 
I've used the 100-500 for a couple of years. If I were making the choice now, I'd still go with the 100-500. It's better made, has higher quality elements, a little better IQ and is a lot lighter. I've watched a number of reviews of the 200-800 (including head-to-head comapros) and it looks pretty impressive for the bucks for those who really want the extra reach. Bird shooting season is at hand I'll be assessing how much I might use a 200-800. It's possible I would buy one as an addition if I think I'll use it enough to justify adding it. I think I'm less than 50-50.

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Feb 25, 2024 12:05:17   #
Scruples Loc: Brooklyn, New York
 
JW from PA wrote:
Just curious as to the canon users on this site their thoughts on which one you would purchase if you were wanting a new wildlife lenses. Just so you all know, I have watched several reviews and I already own the 100-500 and converter. I am however considering buying the 200-800. Thanks for your input.


To me, having both lenses may be excessive. Perhaps, sell the 100-500mm lens because of the redundancy. I might keep the converter but I don’t know the f-stop on either lens. Perhaps you could give a little more info about the lenses and converter. If you intend on selling a lens a photo may be helpful. If not for the money,you may wish to donate the lens to a photography club or High School. You can get a decent tax donation!

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Feb 25, 2024 12:06:36   #
Scruples Loc: Brooklyn, New York
 
JW from PA wrote:
Just curious as to the canon users on this site their thoughts on which one you would purchase if you were wanting a new wildlife lenses.


A donation of a lens can really benefit a bunch of high school students just learning to photograph wildlife. You could challenge these kids to getting a photo from a specific animal or flower from a zoo, aviary or botanic garden.

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Feb 25, 2024 12:28:29   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
Scruples wrote:
To me, having both lenses may be excessive. Perhaps, sell the 100-500mm lens because of the redundancy. I might keep the converter but I don’t know the f-stop on either lens. Perhaps you could give a little more info about the lenses and converter. If you intend on selling a lens a photo may be helpful. If not for the money,you may wish to donate the lens to a photography club or High School. You can get a decent tax donation!


I was using the 100-400 Z lens with a 1.4 TC before I got the 180-600 Z. The 180-600 is great but there’s no way I’d get rid of my 100-400. It’s my go to if I’m shooting some place like a garden. It gives me more flexibility if I need reach and the close focusing ability gets me to almost macro.

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Feb 25, 2024 14:08:11   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
JW from PA wrote:
Just curious as to the canon users on this site their thoughts on which one you would purchase if you were wanting a new wildlife lenses. Just so you all know, I have watched several reviews and I already own the 100-500 and converter. I am however considering buying the 200-800. Thanks for your input.


Which ever one has the best AF with YOUR particular camera model - the odds are therefore stacked against using the 1.4X which by default slows the AF.

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Feb 25, 2024 14:49:16   #
JW from PA
 
Sorry, folks if you misunstood what I was asking. Please re-read the post. I also put the F Stop in the description. To set the record straight I have no intention of selling my 100-500. Thanks for your responses. Joe W.

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Feb 25, 2024 16:49:59   #
Scruples Loc: Brooklyn, New York
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
I was using the 100-400 Z lens with a 1.4 TC before I got the 180-600 Z. The 180-600 is great but there’s no way I’d get rid of my 100-400. It’s my go to if I’m shooting some place like a garden. It gives me more flexibility if I need reach and the close focusing ability gets me to almost macro.


My wife keeps yelling and nagging me. Why do I want to buy “another” lens? Why do I need to lift all that weight onto my shoulder?

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Feb 25, 2024 18:23:28   #
MountainDave
 
If you are concerned about the small aperture, don't be, there are noise reduction tools from several companies, including PS, that work great. I need the small aperture for DOF reasons if I'm close to a small bird.

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Feb 25, 2024 18:36:38   #
Scruples Loc: Brooklyn, New York
 
JW from PA wrote:
Just curious as to the canon users on this site their thoughts on which one you would purchase if you were wanting a new wildlife lenses. Just so you all know, I have watched several reviews and I already own the 100-500 and converter. I am however considering buying the 200-800. Thanks for your input.


I am trying to lessen my glass burden. That is why I texted my response. Seeing that you are not interested in loosing or selling I think that I would make an exclusive body and lens bag. Specifically use the new lens for a particular body. That way, you can get better photos from a specific gear set-up. I suggested the donation because when I was in high school, I had no money to buy gear and relied on gear that was donated. It made a big difference in photographing!

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Feb 26, 2024 06:11:00   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
JW from PA wrote:
Just curious as to the canon users on this site their thoughts on which one you would purchase if you were wanting a new wildlife lenses. Just so you all know, I have watched several reviews and I already own the 100-500 and converter. I am however considering buying the 200-800. Thanks for your input.


Lets go from worst to best
Worst: 100-500 with 1.4
Better: 100-500 without 1.4
Best: 200-800 for reach
Bestest: Sony 200-600

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Feb 26, 2024 06:14:15   #
DRM Loc: NC
 
JW from PA wrote:
Just curious as to the canon users on this site their thoughts on which one you would purchase if you were wanting a new wildlife lenses. Just so you all know, I have watched several reviews and I already own the 100-500 and converter. I am however considering buying the 200-800. Thanks for your input.


I have the RF 100-500 and RF 1.4x. I also have the RF 200-800 on order. With the teleconverter attached, the 100-500 gets you to 700mm at f/10. The 200-800 gains 100mm of focal length and 1/3 stop of light. When the extra reach is needed--such as for distant and/or dangerous wildlife or the upcoming solar eclipse--the 200-800 would be my choice. Otherwise, I expect the 100-500, an L lens (the 200-800 is not an L model), without teleconverter to see more use.

If you order the 200-800, be prepared to wait awhile. Mine has been backordered since late November (B&H).

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Feb 26, 2024 07:25:08   #
cmceagle
 
DRM wrote:
I have the RF 100-500 and RF 1.4x. I also have the RF 200-800 on order. With the teleconverter attached, the 100-500 gets you to 700mm at f/10. The 200-800 gains 100mm of focal length and 1/3 stop of light. When the extra reach is needed--such as for distant and/or dangerous wildlife or the upcoming solar eclipse--the 200-800 would be my choice. Otherwise, I expect the 100-500, an L lens (the 200-800 is not an L model), without teleconverter to see more use.

If you order the 200-800, be prepared to wait awhile. Mine has been backordered since late November (B&H).
I have the RF 100-500 and RF 1.4x. I also have th... (show quote)


I'm also waiting for the 200-800 from B&H since November. I have the 100-500 L and the backorder for the 200-800 doesn't have any end in sight, I considered getting the RF 1.4 teleconverter for the 100-500. However, I read the 1.4 can only be attached when the 100-500 is extended to 300 or more. I learned with a 1.4 teleconverter and the 100-400 II L the number of focus points were dramatically reduced. Assuming a similar result on the 100-500 and the restriction of greater than 300, I decided to pass on the teeconverter idea and continue to wait for the 200-800.

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Feb 26, 2024 07:47:38   #
DRM Loc: NC
 
cmceagle wrote:
I'm also waiting for the 200-800 from B&H since November. I have the 100-500 L and the backorder for the 200-800 doesn't have any end in sight, I considered getting the RF 1.4 teleconverter for the 100-500. However, I read the 1.4 can only be attached when the 100-500 is extended to 300 or more. I learned with a 1.4 teleconverter and the 100-400 II L the number of focus points were dramatically reduced. Assuming a similar result on the 100-500 and the restriction of greater than 300, I decided to pass on the teeconverter idea and continue to wait for the 200-800.
I'm also waiting for the 200-800 from B&H sinc... (show quote)


You're correct regarding the teleconverter being impossible to attach unless the lens is extended to at least 300mm. An odd design perhaps, but not a practical limitation since a teleconverter adds no benefit over the native focal length range at any focal length less than about 357mm (250mm if one is using a 2x teleconverter). Just a quirk one has to remember when using the 100-500.

Access to fewer focus points, however, could hamper results, particularly for certain types of wildlife photography.

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