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Feb 20, 2024 13:52:05   #
A. T.
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
A recent change, it seems. The website still retains https://northcoastphoto.com/ , at least for now.


Okay, thanks Brother Paul, I'll make a visit to site shortly.

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Feb 20, 2024 14:13:09   #
Artcameraman Loc: Springfield NH
 
If you decide you don't like the Blad. call me.

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Feb 20, 2024 14:31:34   #
A. T.
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
A recent change, it seems. The website still retains https://northcoastphoto.com/ , at least for now.


Well, I just spoke with the manager who was absolutely fantastic. They can do everything.....whatever I want done. I also went to the website briefly and I will return to spend some time to figure out how to mail my film rolls and what to ask. Thank you so much again for all of this information. As I said before, this is all new for me but I want to learn how to scan my film. I'll need to start with scanning 101and go from there.

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Feb 20, 2024 14:37:33   #
A. T.
 
Artcameraman wrote:
If you decide you don't like the Blad. call me.


Trust me, I'm going to LOVE this camera. I have wanted one for some time but I wanted to find one that was in really good shape and I found one in mint condition.....it cost me but that's okay.

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Feb 20, 2024 16:14:44   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
A. T. wrote:
Hello everyone,

I just purchased a Hasselblad 500CM and wanted to get information on editing the scans in Lightroom. Would the scans be the equivalent of a digital JPG in terms of editing limitations?


It depends on the process.

> If you scan your own using a 16-bits per channel scanner, you can have a TIFF file to import into Lightroom Classic.

> If you use a lab, ask them what options they offer. Some labs provide 8-bit JPEGs or 16-bit TIFFs, with a huge price difference between them.

> If you camera scan your film as I do, you can have a raw file from your camera to import into LrC. If you are scanning negatives, I recommend the absolutely excellent plug-in for Lightroom Classic known as Negative Lab Pro 3.x. It makes the conversions from negatives to positive raw images. You may then refine the camera scan raw files, or export TIFFs, or JPEGs, or both.

Check this out. It's a white paper I wrote a couple of years ago.

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Camera Scanning.pdf opens in your favorite PDF reader.
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Feb 20, 2024 17:36:28   #
A. T.
 
burkphoto wrote:
It depends on the process.

> If you scan your own using a 16-bits per channel scanner, you can have a TIFF file to import into Lightroom Classic.

> If you use a lab, ask them what options they offer. Some labs provide 8-bit JPEGs or 16-bit TIFFs, with a huge price difference between them.

> If you camera scan your film as I do, you can have a raw file from your camera to import into LrC. If you are scanning negatives, I recommend the absolutely excellent plug-in for Lightroom Classic known as Negative Lab Pro 3.x. It makes the conversions from negatives to positive raw images. You may then refine the camera scan raw files, or export TIFFs, or JPEGs, or both.

Check this out. It's a white paper I wrote a couple of years ago.

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Thanks a bunch for that very valuable information. I do have several photo labs that scan so I will need to decide which route I'm going to take.

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Feb 20, 2024 17:40:08   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
A. T. wrote:
Hello everyone,

I just purchased a Hasselblad 500CM and wanted to get information on editing the scans in Lightroom. Would the scans be the equivalent of a digital JPG in terms of editing limitations?


I would say that with editing a good film scan you get about 75% of the editing possibilities of a camera JPEG - which kinda surprised me positively ! - this using Elements 9 - more with Lightroom ? maybe ?

The quality results of shooting 6X6 are, for the most part the same as 6X45. Personally, I would much rather shoot 6X7 or 6X9 from a quality standpoint - with 4X5 the ultimate with a very good lens

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Feb 20, 2024 19:39:20   #
A. T.
 
imagemeister wrote:
I would say that with editing a good film scan you get about 75% of the editing possibilities of a camera JPEG - which kinda surprised me positively ! - this using Elements 9 - more with Lightroom ? maybe ?

The quality results of shooting 6X6 are, for the most part the same as 6X45. Personally, I would much rather shoot 6X7 or 6X9 from a quality standpoint - with 4X5 the ultimate with a very good lens


75% is more than good enough for me. My digital editing is very minimal. My goal is to get everything right in camera to minimize editing.

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Feb 21, 2024 04:09:40   #
User ID
 
imagemeister wrote:
I would say that with editing a good film scan you get about 75% of the editing possibilities of a camera JPEG - which kinda surprised me positively ! - this using Elements 9 - more with Lightroom ? maybe ?

The quality results of shooting 6X6 are, for the most part the same as 6X45. Personally, I would much rather shoot 6X7 or 6X9 from a quality standpoint - with 4X5 the ultimate with a very good lens

There are workflow reasons that favor 4x5 over 6x9. There are however no IQ reasons. IQ for both formats is exxxxxceedingly close.

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Feb 21, 2024 12:39:38   #
GreenReaper
 
User ID wrote:
Making your own conversions you can produce raw files, but an outside service isnt going to do that. If you can fund a service that scans to tiffs youll be be somewhat less limited than working on jpegs.

To get raw files youll hafta be a bit inventive and need some new camera accessories: lens, light source, support device. Youre switching to a semi-obsolete medium so you hafta take some initiative to deal with it.

You might find a service willing to scan to a few bracketed exposures. Even if those are jpegs youll still have an enormous range of density data and then you can HDR them in your editor.

Otherwise, you do the simplest thing and wind up with jpegs, which makes toting a rollfilm outfit hardly worthwhile. Youd be better of with a 40 to 80MP camera that shoots raw files instead of film. Such a camera costs less than a Blad outfit with lenses and a few bricks of film (with develop and scan service).
Making your own conversions you can produce raw fi... (show quote)


Seems to be the topic de jour. I have had success digitizing my 120 and 4x5 negs using my digital camera. You end up with a RAW file, but thats ok. I'v used Photoshop to convert my color negs to very acceptable color positives. B&W is not a problem. Good luck!

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Feb 21, 2024 12:48:13   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
GreenReaper wrote:
Seems to be the topic de jour. I have had success digitizing my 120 and 4x5 negs using my digital camera. You end up with a RAW file, but thats ok. I'v used Photoshop to convert my color negs to very acceptable color positives. B&W is not a problem. Good luck!


If you have the subscription Photoshop, you have access to Lightroom Classic at no additional cost. If that is the case, you can use Negative Lab Pro (NLP). It is the best $99 I ever spent on imaging software. NLP is a plug-in for Lightroom Classic that acts like professional scanner software to invert B&W and color negatives, with dozens of creative features. Check it out here:

https://www.negativelabpro.com

I've converted thousands of raw files of old negatives to positives with NLP for further editing as raw files in Lightroom Classic.

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Feb 21, 2024 16:15:12   #
A. T.
 
GreenReaper wrote:
Seems to be the topic de jour. I have had success digitizing my 120 and 4x5 negs using my digital camera. You end up with a RAW file, but thats ok. I'v used Photoshop to convert my color negs to very acceptable color positives. B&W is not a problem. Good luck!


Okay thanks for responding and the advice.

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Feb 21, 2024 16:16:17   #
A. T.
 
burkphoto wrote:
If you have the subscription Photoshop, you have access to Lightroom Classic at no additional cost. If that is the case, you can use Negative Lab Pro (NLP). It is the best $99 I ever spent on imaging software. NLP is a plug-in for Lightroom Classic that acts like professional scanner software to invert B&W and color negatives, with dozens of creative features. Check it out here:

https://www.negativelabpro.com

I've converted thousands of raw files of old negatives to positives with NLP for further editing as raw files in Lightroom Classic.
If you have the subscription Photoshop, you have a... (show quote)


That's exactly what I intend to use....it came highly recommended by several.

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