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Feb 20, 2024 06:31:28   #
nervous2 Loc: Provo, Utah
 
Timmers wrote:
Check your history my friend, for an amendment to the US Consultation can be enacted it must be ratified by a simple majority of the existing sates. It failed to be ratified by the states, twice.

And so, off we go to the attic.

Don't drag your ignorant political argument into our photography forum, please.


Hmm . . . I always thought it was a 75% majority of the states rather than a simple majority. But it's been a long time since high school civics.

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Feb 20, 2024 06:33:01   #
nervous2 Loc: Provo, Utah
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
Huh? Argument? This topic was created by user Bridges in General Chit Chat (not photography). I supplied a direct quote from a website, which I linked. A simple factual statement of history, which answered the OP's question.

Like this one better? From the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library:

"The most significant long-term impact of the Sixteenth Amendment was the shift in the way the federal government received funding for its works. What was originally conceived as a system that depended largely on tariffs at a level just slightly above the many states, transformed into a more powerful, centralized institution that sourced vast quantities of funding through the many incomes of individuals and the states."

Click here for source


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Huh? Argument? This topic was created by user Brid... (show quote)


Thanks, Linda.

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Feb 20, 2024 07:26:29   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
SteveR wrote:
What code?

Mac wrote:
I would like to know how to do that.

Wyantry wrote:
I think many would like to know about the ‘long-link’ posting code!

What is this ‘secret’ code procedure?

Please?
Click quote reply to my first posting to this topic, look at my quote and you'll see the format of how I entered the link.

Also, when you click reply or quote reply, note that below the text box where you will be typing is a link titled "show tags." Those tags show how to insert a url, along with how to make a word or section bold, italic, in color etc.

The steps for inserting a url are:

1. Type an open-bracket character, then the letters url=

2. Then add your address (link) immediately following the = sign

3. Then type the close bracket symbol.

4. Now type what you want people to see, such as "click here" or however you want to describe the embedded link

5. Now place an open bracket, then /url, then the close bracket.

It's pretty easy once you've done it a few times

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Feb 20, 2024 07:30:09   #
BebuLamar
 
(url=https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/)TheUHH(/url)

What did I do wrong?

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Feb 20, 2024 07:54:07   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
BebuLamar wrote:
(url=https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/)TheUHH(/url)

What did I do wrong?
You used parentheses. The brackets are these guys: [ ]

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Feb 20, 2024 08:49:18   #
Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
Click quote reply to my first posting to this topic, look at my quote and you'll see the format of how I entered the link.

Also, when you click reply or quote reply, note that below the text box where you will be typing is a link titled "show tags." Those tags show how to insert a url, along with how to make a word or section bold, italic, in color etc.

The steps for inserting a url are:

1. Type an open-bracket character, then the letters url=

2. Then add your address (link) immediately following the = sign

3. Then type the close bracket symbol.

4. Now type what you want people to see, such as "click here" or however you want to describe the embedded link

5. Now place an open bracket, then /url, then the close bracket.

It's pretty easy once you've done it a few times
Click quote reply to my first posting to this topi... (show quote)


Thank you Linda.

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Feb 20, 2024 09:19:40   #
pendennis
 
nervous2 wrote:
Hmm . . . I always thought it was a 75% majority of the states rather than a simple majority. But it's been a long time since high school civics.


It may have been a long time, but you are correct.

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Feb 20, 2024 10:15:54   #
JBRIII
 
Before tax law:
No IRS
No Fed: depressions called panics happened about every 20 yrs and no Fed to bail out anyone
No Federal deposit insurance
No SS, no Medicare
Much smaller military
No EPA, etc.
No interstates
Don't need my money if you don't do much or have many responsibilities

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Feb 20, 2024 10:37:44   #
Tommg
 
There was an income tax enacted in 1861 after the Civil War, a flat 3% tax on all incomes over $800.00, the tax was repealed in 1872. Congress passed an income tax on July 2, 1909, and it was ratified Feb 3, 1913.

I have tried to obtain a copy of the budget for a few years now without success, the national media reports on the stupidity of some of the budget items that are placed in the budget these days, if true it seems as though congress has gone bat shit crazy and we are forced to pay for this crazy stuff (cleaned this up a little). At the rate the budget mess is going, the US will be bankrupt in the not-too-distant future!

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Feb 20, 2024 11:11:45   #
Wyantry Loc: SW Colorado
 
Timmers wrote:
Check your history my friend, for an amendment to the US Consultation can be enacted it must be ratified by a simple majority of the existing sates. It failed to be ratified by the states, twice.

And so, off we go to the attic.

Don't drag your ignorant political argument into our photography forum, please.


Check the CONSTITUTION itself “my friend” prior to making “your ignorant political argument”.

“Article. V. [of the U.S. Constitution]

“The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as Part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, . . .”

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Feb 20, 2024 15:05:20   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
wmurnahan wrote:
No income tax led to Robber Barons like our tax cuts for the rich are taking us there again. Tax codes like we had in the 60’s, where excess wealth was taxed at a rate that made factories put money back into the business instead of the owners pocket. Spending the money on R&D, better wages, improved equipment etc. Today that money is going for a second yacht or a third mansion.


Look at how the middle class lives today compared to the fifties and sixties. You really wanna go back?

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Feb 20, 2024 15:11:14   #
Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
 
wmurnahan wrote:
No income tax led to Robber Barons like our tax cuts for the rich are taking us there again. Tax codes like we had in the 60’s, where excess wealth was taxed at a rate that made factories put money back into the business instead of the owners pocket. Spending the money on R&D, better wages, improved equipment etc. Today that money is going for a second yacht or a third mansion.



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Feb 20, 2024 15:53:10   #
dwmoar Loc: Oregon, Willamette Valley
 
pendennis wrote:
Government funding came generally from tariffs, excise taxes, and customs duty fees. There weren't the demands for government services like there is today. There was no centralized welfare funding, Social Security, etc. Most welfare funding was done at the local and state levels, and by charitable organizations such as churches, etc.


Some of the first words in the constitution say

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare

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Feb 20, 2024 15:54:43   #
wmurnahan Loc: Bloomington IN
 
SteveR wrote:
Look at how the middle class lives today compared to the fifties and sixties. You really wanna go back?


Yes we had the strongest middle class in the 1960’s. The unions were strong, a family could buy a house and send their kids to college on one persons income. A kid could pay for college by working a Summer job. 12% interest on a credit card was only for the worst credit risks. Bank CD’s paid over 5% on their deposits.

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Feb 20, 2024 16:04:56   #
dwmoar Loc: Oregon, Willamette Valley
 
BebuLamar wrote:
(url=https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/)TheUHH(/url)

What did I do wrong?


you need to use the [ ] instead of ( )

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