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Feb 19, 2024 14:17:39   #
ricardo00
 
vanderhala wrote:
Yes i have already read a number of threads. This will be our first safari, we had organized this twice before, but had to cancel once of back surgery of my wife and once for Covid. We hope third time is a charm.
1. I already know to take two cameras (D7200 and D3200), batteries and SD cards up the kazoo. Still undecided about monopod and type of camera support (window clamp, bean bag or forget it).
2. Taking my Tamron 100-400mm (4.5-6.3) and Tampon 18-400mm (3.5-6.3), have not decided which lens on which camera (question #1 : makes difference? : probably the 100-400 on the D7200)..
3. I do have 2 other lenses Sigma 30mm 1:1.4 and Meike 85mm 1.8 . (question #2 : would this be helpful if you go out early in the morning while it is still dark and the other lenses might simply not hack it in that little light, versus the extra hassle, weight and need to change lenses for which I have been warned).
4. and finally: I might have considered taking my Tokina for the wide views especially when we will be at Victoria Falls, but it was stolen on my last trip returning from Egypt (see my posts). I had not used it that much. Question #3: is my 18-400 wide enough or is a new Tokina too much money and weight to carry anyway ?
Looking forward to the responses.
Yes i have already read a number of threads. This ... (show quote)


Don't forget your phone, takes great pics when the wildlife get close. Or forget taking pictures and enjoy the experience when the wildlife get very close. As others have advised, I wouldn't bother with a tripod or monopod. The advantage of taking both your Tamron 100-400mm (4.5-6.3) and Tamron 18-400mm is redundancy, in case one lens breaks, etc. Just as taking both cameras. Not sure that the 85 mm f/1.8 lens is of much use, it is too short. If you want to "splurge", you could buy a 70-200mm f/4 and take it instead of the 18-400mm lens. It is light, gives you more light and optically sharper than the 18-400mm. Then put that on one camera and the 100-400mm on the other camera. Considering the cost of the trip, it wouldn't be that expensive to buy a used 70-200mm.

Getting close with lions is common on safari:


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Feb 19, 2024 14:19:15   #
MJPerini
 
There is lots of good info above, I would just reenforce both calling your specific tour company, and getting very specific information on the vehicles you will be using and what kind of camera mounting is needed or provided.
Take a quick visit to the RRS website for a great selection of safari specific mounts & clamps.
Some open vehicles have a bar across (because some vehicles are 3 across some are 2 across.
RRS makes a mono pod bracket clamp to secure it to various rails.
But until you know the kind(s) of vehicle it is a guess. PS Small planes have very strict weight restrictions, so you have to pack for the most restrictive rules you will encounter.
Good Luck

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Feb 19, 2024 15:08:58   #
HRoss Loc: Longmont, CO
 
ronichas wrote:
I have been to 3 different Africa countries for safaris. Here are my thoughts on your questions.

1~check with the company you are going with. Some provide window supports, if not we bought bags of rice used a plastic bag to cover & then gave the rice to some people when we left. I don't think you need a monopod, hard to use in a truck. Some trucks you can stand up if it is open on the top.

2~I don't think you need both the Tamron 100-400 and the Tamron 18-400. I think I would go with the 18-400 since sometimes the animals are very close. Don't bring more than you will need. You might consider using the long lens on one camera and the Sigma 30 on the other camera.

3~I think that covers it all. I would suggest bringing a towel to cover your cameras when you are not using them. It gets so dusty so protecting them is the best way to go.

4~Another thought is to think about the Samyang AF 14mm f/2.8 Lens for Nikon. This is great if you want to shoot the night sky & milky way.

Here is an image from I took to Kenya 4 years ago. We all had long lenses on and this beautiful leopard walked right under our window. All we could do at the time was just watch her. Our friends were in another truck and took the image.
The second image was at the Elephant bedroom camp. This huge guy, Obama, was so close we could have touched him. My friend was in the next tent and took this image. That is me with the blue shirt. There was a security guard nearby.

What country are you going to?
I have been to 3 different Africa countries for sa... (show quote)


Of the comments I've read, this sums up the best advise. In addition, if you can take videos as well, you won't be disappointed. Have a great trip.

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Feb 19, 2024 18:11:38   #
joecichjr Loc: Chicago S. Suburbs, Illinois, USA
 
ricardo00 wrote:
Don't forget your phone, takes great pics when the wildlife get close. Or forget taking pictures and enjoy the experience when the wildlife get very close. As others have advised, I wouldn't bother with a tripod or monopod. The advantage of taking both your Tamron 100-400mm (4.5-6.3) and Tamron 18-400mm is redundancy, in case one lens breaks, etc. Just as taking both cameras. Not sure that the 85 mm f/1.8 lens is of much use, it is too short. If you want to "splurge", you could buy a 70-200mm f/4 and take it instead of the 18-400mm lens. It is light, gives you more light and optically sharper than the 18-400mm. Then put that on one camera and the 100-400mm on the other camera. Considering the cost of the trip, it wouldn't be that expensive to buy a used 70-200mm.

Getting close with lions is common on safari:
Don't forget your phone, takes great pics when the... (show quote)


I would have had my life flashing before my eyes were I in the jeep (and probably figuring out ways to defend myself using a camera in each hand)

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Feb 19, 2024 18:37:06   #
joecichjr Loc: Chicago S. Suburbs, Illinois, USA
 
Hip Coyote wrote:
1- Placing your sd cards in your kazoo is not recommended. It can cause pain and may damage the SD cards.


Get a hold of the tour operator and see what kind of vehicles you will be using. That will determine your camera support. And, find out if your safari locations allow off road viewing of the critters. This is KEY. Off road means you could be right up on the animals. Confined to a road means you will be viewing at a distance.

2- I have no idea.

3- For some reason people think an African trip is all about the animals. Then they discover there are people there too! Fascinating cultures and warm people. They saying goes, "one goes to Africa for the animals and returns for the people." I found that to be true. Going to see the Masai or other tribes? Be ready for great people photography. For example, we went to a grade school near Vic Falls. The kids were great.

When we go back to Africa, I have decided to take a few small, cheap point and shoot cameras. When we come across kids, I am going to hand 'em out and tell them to take pics and give me back the cameras. Hopefully I get them back! If not, no biggie... In any event, be ready for people photography. Meaning, you need a more normal lens unless you want to rely on the 18-400.

Low light? Maybe, depending on your location and provider of safari stuff.

4- Yep, I'd take a wide with me. Also, you will see vast expanses of landscape. Be ready.

I could type a lot here, but here are a few things I think are important.

- Don't ever be far from your camera. We were walking to dinner one night and some bush-babies were peeking out at me from a hole in a rotted tree. I had my camera and a flash. Typically flashes are not allowed on safari, but this was in camp and for once in my life, I was ready. I took maybe 20 pics of that critter and it remains one of my favorite photos. I know people cringe when other folks attach a photo, but in this case it does illustrate my point. It captured a nice memory for me.

Remember people photography.

Be as generous as you can. The Africans suffered through Covid like nothing we've experienced here it the US.

I took quite a lot of lens cleaning stuff and it was used. In desert enviorns, I covered my cameras with a nylon bag that was perfect. Each night I cleaned my gear thoroughly.

Unless you are taking astro pics I don't see a reason for a tripod. But it may be a consideration...and maybe the tour operator has a tripod for you to use.

I don't know your cameras, but if they have a custom saving feature, set one up for a potential animal chase..shutter priority, rapid fire, etc. If and when that happens, you want to be prepared by simply switching to C.

If Vic falls is really flowing, your camera is going to get wet. Really wet. Be prepared.

Some tour operators / guides are very accomplished photographers. See if that is true in your case.

Consider getting some photo practice at a zoo. I did't and should have.
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Awesome catch 🎈🎈🎈🎈

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Feb 19, 2024 19:36:46   #
Mickey Jetpur Loc: California
 
ronichas wrote:
I have been to 3 different Africa countries for safaris. Here are my thoughts on your questions.

1~check with the company you are going with. Some provide window supports, if not we bought bags of rice used a plastic bag to cover & then gave the rice to some people when we left. I don't think you need a monopod, hard to use in a truck. Some trucks you can stand up if it is open on the top.

2~I don't think you need both the Tamron 100-400 and the Tamron 18-400. I think I would go with the 18-400 since sometimes the animals are very close. Don't bring more than you will need. You might consider using the long lens on one camera and the Sigma 30 on the other camera.

3~I think that covers it all. I would suggest bringing a towel to cover your cameras when you are not using them. It gets so dusty so protecting them is the best way to go.

4~Another thought is to think about the Samyang AF 14mm f/2.8 Lens for Nikon. This is great if you want to shoot the night sky & milky way.

Here is an image from I took to Kenya 4 years ago. We all had long lenses on and this beautiful leopard walked right under our window. All we could do at the time was just watch her. Our friends were in another truck and took the image.
The second image was at the Elephant bedroom camp. This huge guy, Obama, was so close we could have touched him. My friend was in the next tent and took this image. That is me with the blue shirt. There was a security guard nearby.

What country are you going to?
I have been to 3 different Africa countries for sa... (show quote)


OMGosh! 1st pic I'd dump the long lens and look for my iPhone!!

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Feb 20, 2024 01:38:36   #
vanderhala Loc: Los Angeles, CA
 
Thank you all very much for the helpful feedback.
!

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Feb 20, 2024 06:16:15   #
ELNikkor
 
18-400, 30 or wider, no monopod

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Feb 20, 2024 06:41:27   #
Robertl594 Loc: Bloomfield Hills, Michigan and Nantucket
 
I will keep this quick, with no eye rolls.
Best things I took were a quick release super clamp and gimbal. I mounted it on top of the vehicle and stood on the back seat with my head out of the vehicle. I could quickly switch sides depending on where the action was. My second camera was a shorter lens.

No use for a monopod or tripod while in the vehicle.

Longest lens you can take, take.

Here are a couple of pics to show.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/252211-REG/Manfrotto_635_635_Quick_Action_Super.html





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Feb 20, 2024 09:03:58   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
vanderhala wrote:
Yes i have already read a number of threads. This will be our first safari, we had organized this twice before, but had to cancel once of back surgery of my wife and once for Covid. We hope third time is a charm.
1. I already know to take two cameras (D7200 and D3200), batteries and SD cards up the kazoo. Still undecided about monopod and type of camera support (window clamp, bean bag or forget it).
2. Taking my Tamron 100-400mm (4.5-6.3) and Tampon 18-400mm (3.5-6.3), have not decided which lens on which camera (question #1 : makes difference? : probably the 100-400 on the D7200)..
3. I do have 2 other lenses Sigma 30mm 1:1.4 and Meike 85mm 1.8 . (question #2 : would this be helpful if you go out early in the morning while it is still dark and the other lenses might simply not hack it in that little light, versus the extra hassle, weight and need to change lenses for which I have been warned).
4. and finally: I might have considered taking my Tokina for the wide views especially when we will be at Victoria Falls, but it was stolen on my last trip returning from Egypt (see my posts). I had not used it that much. Question #3: is my 18-400 wide enough or is a new Tokina too much money and weight to carry anyway ?
Looking forward to the responses.
Yes i have already read a number of threads. This ... (show quote)


I would ditch the 3200 and instead take a Sony RX10m4 and let it also do wide shots. I would take a monopod that collapses to be very short so you could use it while seated or just as a handle against your body. I would take the 100-400 on the 7200.......you will appreciate the sharpness over the 18-400 ! Do to the small/lightweight of the RX10 with IS and the Tamron 100-400, you should not really need auxillary support. ENJOY the trip !
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Feb 20, 2024 09:07:59   #
issa2006.
 
The picture of you guys looking at the leopard is better than any of just an animal could be.What is the critter in the tree.Wonderful shot.

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Feb 20, 2024 09:42:07   #
Hip Coyote
 
This thread is full of excellent advice. A few added thoughts

The notion of using a phone...I should have mentioned it. Great for video and close up shots. Also, in most places we went, even in very remote Namibia, we had excellent cellular service. (As opposed to my being in the middle of Los Angeles and getting one bar...go figure.)

Having a photo back up plan is advisable. I now use the LR cloud or a RAV device that backs up my SD cards to a small SSD. It is a very good system, but does add weight. For Adobe users the LR cloud is amazing for back up. I wont hijack the thread, but if someone wants to know the work flow, pm me and I will advise.

On a more geo-political front, if you're interested:

If you ever travel through Johannesburg, consider staying for a few days. It is a dangerous city, but by using a guide, you can get around ok. There are some significant things there such as the Apartheid Museum, Mandela's house, a farm in Lillies Leaf (sic) where the Apartheid movement was somewhat coordinated. To me, it was important to see this stuff. Keep in mind, Apartheid occurred up into the 1990...not the 1890s.

If going to Cape Town, the wineries are spectacular...this from a Californian. if we go back, we're spending a few days there. Opulent. And going to Robben Island is a must. A historic prison where African royalty were imprisoned and Mandela was imprisoned for something like 25 years. The guides are former inmates of the prison. I had a long conversation with one guy who was very active in the Apartheid movement. He actually was trained in Angola by Cubans on various terrorist tactics. It was an amazing discussion.

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Feb 20, 2024 10:01:02   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
vanderhala wrote:
Yes i have already read a number of threads. This will be our first safari, we had organized this twice before, but had to cancel once of back surgery of my wife and once for Covid. We hope third time is a charm.
1. I already know to take two cameras (D7200 and D3200), batteries and SD cards up the kazoo. Still undecided about monopod and type of camera support (window clamp, bean bag or forget it).
2. Taking my Tamron 100-400mm (4.5-6.3) and Tampon 18-400mm (3.5-6.3), have not decided which lens on which camera (question #1 : makes difference? : probably the 100-400 on the D7200)..
3. I do have 2 other lenses Sigma 30mm 1:1.4 and Meike 85mm 1.8 . (question #2 : would this be helpful if you go out early in the morning while it is still dark and the other lenses might simply not hack it in that little light, versus the extra hassle, weight and need to change lenses for which I have been warned).
4. and finally: I might have considered taking my Tokina for the wide views especially when we will be at Victoria Falls, but it was stolen on my last trip returning from Egypt (see my posts). I had not used it that much. Question #3: is my 18-400 wide enough or is a new Tokina too much money and weight to carry anyway ?
Looking forward to the responses.
Yes i have already read a number of threads. This ... (show quote)


I guess spellcheckers don't need proofreading. Kazoo = comical musical instrument. Wazoo, when Grand, was a Frank Zappa jazz album. Tampon 18-400mm would be a GIANT adjustable feminine hygiene product!

Sorry, couldn't resist! I got a great laugh from it, considering our furnace is out and the Microwave just died. BUT, now for some two cent opinions:

1. Monopod and beanbag. They serve different purposes. Bean bags are great for shooting from a vehicle window or a fence post. Monopods are best when parked in the dirt.

2. Take your BEST lenses. An 18-400 is a compromise travel zoom. It's good for quick composition, but full of optical disappointments. If it were me, I'd take the 100-400 and the two primes, or pick up a short zoom (10-24, or 17-70).

3. Take the Sigma 30mm for low light, indoor work.

4. An alternative would be to rely on a high-end smartphone for the wide scenes. I am generally as happy with output from my iPhone 15 Pro Max as with the output from my wife's D3300. Plus, I like having all the other things it does.

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Feb 20, 2024 10:39:57   #
Nancysc
 
East Africa is about way more than the amazing animals. You will be surrounded by other photographers, all pushing for position, none seeing what you can see with two eyes, not the camera. You can buy images, but you can't buy the experience if you're not really "there".

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Feb 20, 2024 10:40:10   #
vanderhala Loc: Los Angeles, CA
 
[quote=Hip Coyote]This thread is full of excellent advice. A few added thoughts

The notion of using a phone... yes we are taking our iphone15's of course.

Re: Johannesburg: we are staying one day (buffer in order not to miss the start of tour.
Is it not the Anti-Apartheid movement ? :)

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