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Feb 9, 2024 11:41:58   #
Lucian Loc: From Wales, living in Ohio
 
dbrugger25 wrote:
I was referring to MPH in my car.


You did not state ground speed, we all know a GPS can give you ground speed. However you firmly told us more than once and I quote from you "Yes, you absolutely can measure airspeed with GPS. I was a licensed private pilot until I got too old. I used GPS for coordinates, altitude, speed and direction. I also had a Pitot tube and autopilot. The autopilot relied on GPS and the display would calculate my time of arrival based on destination input, air speed and direction of travel and current location. For that matter, the GPS in my cars and my smart phones can do all that as well. "

And again, at the end, you stated that your car's GPS can do all that as well, which you listed above. As you can see you did state that your car GPS can give you airspeed. You never mentioned ground speed. I'll assume you no longer believe your GPS can give you airspeed. I rest my case.

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Feb 13, 2024 21:45:52   #
goofybruce
 
BebuLamar wrote:
Or quality control


...OR NONE OF THE ABOVE!!!!
Just spit-balling here, but.... the wheel falling off was not the fault of the builder (unless this was the first flight of that airplane which I highly doubt), what about the mechanic/inspection staff of the airline? I know if a wheel falls off my Jeep, that Chrysler is not to blame.

As to the door issue.... can't lay all the blame on Boeing unless, again, that was the first flight of that airplane. It was --and much better now --- known that some of the airplanes had door "plugs" installed so it should have been a part of the routine inspection to look. And, again, why the use of plugs? Does that mean the people on the plane have one less "emergency exit" because what was designed and expected to be a door, was covered over?

Boeing isn't innocent here, but the company's hiring practices have nothing to do with a front wheel falling off nor with a change in federal regs, airline company policy, changing loading/unloading procedures at airports, all playing a part in this.

Of course, mention DEI and a certain segment of our population responds to the dog whistle, even if they won't get a treat because they performed a trick.

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Feb 13, 2024 22:20:52   #
marine73 Loc: Modesto California
 
goofybruce wrote:
...OR NONE OF THE ABOVE!!!!
Just spit-balling here, but.... the wheel falling off was not the fault of the builder (unless this was the first flight of that airplane which I highly doubt), what about the mechanic/inspection staff of the airline? I know if a wheel falls off my Jeep, that Chrysler is not to blame.

As to the door issue.... can't lay all the blame on Boeing unless, again, that was the first flight of that airplane. It was --and much better now --- known that some of the airplanes had door "plugs" installed so it should have been a part of the routine inspection to look. And, again, why the use of plugs? Does that mean the people on the plane have one less "emergency exit" because what was designed and expected to be a door, was covered over?

Boeing isn't innocent here, but the company's hiring practices have nothing to do with a front wheel falling off nor with a change in federal regs, airline company policy, changing loading/unloading procedures at airports, all playing a part in this.

Of course, mention DEI and a certain segment of our population responds to the dog whistle, even if they won't get a treat because they performed a trick.
...OR NONE OF THE ABOVE!!!! br Just spit-ballin... (show quote)


As to the tire falling off it sound like a spacer was missed and the wheel was not properly torqued. On stretched aircraft such as the 737-9 max and 737-9ER plug doors are used to conserve weight and to fill the hole. An airline has to request a seating capacity of more then 193 before a full fledged emergency exit door is installed.

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Feb 14, 2024 08:01:18   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
goofybruce wrote:
...OR NONE OF THE ABOVE!!!!
Just spit-balling here, but.... the wheel falling off was not the fault of the builder (unless this was the first flight of that airplane which I highly doubt), what about the mechanic/inspection staff of the airline? I know if a wheel falls off my Jeep, that Chrysler is not to blame.

As to the door issue.... can't lay all the blame on Boeing unless, again, that was the first flight of that airplane. It was --and much better now --- known that some of the airplanes had door "plugs" installed so it should have been a part of the routine inspection to look. And, again, why the use of plugs? Does that mean the people on the plane have one less "emergency exit" because what was designed and expected to be a door, was covered over?

Boeing isn't innocent here, but the company's hiring practices have nothing to do with a front wheel falling off nor with a change in federal regs, airline company policy, changing loading/unloading procedures at airports, all playing a part in this.

Of course, mention DEI and a certain segment of our population responds to the dog whistle, even if they won't get a treat because they performed a trick.
...OR NONE OF THE ABOVE!!!! br Just spit-ballin... (show quote)


The builder delivered the plane without those four essential bolts.

The number of exit doors depends on the number of seats in the plane. This plan had enough exits for the number of seats.

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