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Feb 11, 2024 05:53:23   #
philmurfin Loc: Bakewell, Derbyshire UK
 
RodeoMan wrote:
Isn't your question much like asking what is a writer? Is it someone with a pencil or perhaps a pen or perhaps a typist? Do the words have to reach a certain level; is Shakespeare a scribe while I a mere scribbler? A long lost image of my grandparents would be a photograph for me, but perhaps only an old picture for you. In general, a good photographer can "capture" the image they intend to. I suppose any photograph could be rated on several categories and yet have some sort of "intangible" about it that sets it apart. Perhaps an image that causes more people than usual to pause longer than usual to view it or to come back to it to peruse it again, would be considered a "superior" image and the photographer who can produce such images on a somewhat regular basis a would be a "good", "better" (you pick the adjective) photographer. Your post opens a can of worms that will very hard to disentangle. There will be many opinions and most no more valid than others offered.
Isn't your question much like asking what is a wri... (show quote)


An excellent well considered answer!

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Feb 11, 2024 05:58:17   #
alawry Loc: Timaru New Zealand
 
Hi Paul greetings from Timaru, I always sit up and take notice when I encounter another Kiwi here. I do like the question, what makes a good photo? It's hard to define, but I know it when I see it. I like photos of derelict buildings, barns etc, but often they are just a snapshot of the building. When I see a photo I like, I try to work out why do I like it. Things like composition, foreground, background, leading lines, context, all so easy to see when it's done right but damned if I can do it myself.
On our TV recently we had a series, country house hunters, a local version of the English Location Location program. I know it's subjective but to me it was a flop, just missing something I couldn't put my finger on it. And photos are like that. What makes it great is almost indefinable. My photo will be technically perfect but just not quite the right angle or POV or something. And my culminating observation is, some people have got it and some people havn't and you can't really change that.
Anyhow, I'll keep on daily going thru UHH and try to learn.

Take care. Andrew.

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Feb 11, 2024 06:00:24   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
My humble take on this. A photographer could be anyone shooting with a camera but a real photographer is that one that knows what he or she is doing. A professional photographer is someone that shoots to make a living, understanding that that person knows the trade.
What is a good photograph? For a photographer his image could be a good photograph but unless there is a good visual design, good exposure and a strong main subject in a photographic competition judges will not consider it a good photograph.

You are absolutely right, there will be here and in other photo forums different opinions and it is not because we live in this country but because we are all different. What I could consider a work of art could be a total disaster for others.

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Feb 11, 2024 07:34:46   #
wham121736 Loc: Long Island, New York
 
You forgot to mention those who have been taking (not making) pictures for som.e time but are still bad photographers

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Feb 11, 2024 07:44:03   #
alberio Loc: Casa Grande AZ
 
paulrnzpn wrote:
As a New Zealander I am finding UHH a rather fun forum to be a member of.
We have the friendly members and we have the knowledgeable members.
And then there are the other members who are neither.
We also have members who're keen to learn from other members of UHH, whilst at the same time there are some members who appear to be on here more because they love to pick a fight.
I guess 'US of A' is a large country full of diverse people, and with a diverse range of 'photographers', and most of UHH's members are based in USA.

So!...
What is a photographer? Someone with a camera, or even someone with a phone that has a camera, or is a photographer someone who makes good photos?
And what makes a photo a good photo?
Opinions on that question will be very diverse I imagine.
As a New Zealander I am finding UHH a rather fun f... (show quote)


Sounds like you're trying to pick a fight πŸ˜€πŸ˜€πŸ˜€

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Feb 11, 2024 07:47:44   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Perception, interpretation, we're all different...

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Feb 11, 2024 08:23:50   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
paulrnzpn wrote:
As a New Zealander I am finding UHH a rather fun forum to be a member of.
We have the friendly members and we have the knowledgeable members.
And then there are the other members who are neither.
We also have members who're keen to learn from other members of UHH, whilst at the same time there are some members who appear to be on here more because they love to pick a fight.
I guess 'US of A' is a large country full of diverse people, and with a diverse range of 'photographers', and most of UHH's members are based in USA.

So!...
What is a photographer? Someone with a camera, or even someone with a phone that has a camera, or is a photographer someone who makes good photos?
And what makes a photo a good photo?
Opinions on that question will be very diverse I imagine.
As a New Zealander I am finding UHH a rather fun f... (show quote)


To me, a good photo is one I would like to look at again, or maybe for a longer period of time that I normally spend glancing at photos.

A good photo is something I would like to hang on my wall if I had any space on my wall.

A good photo shows something of interest, maybe a family member that is long gone (or newly arrived).

A good photo shows something that jogs my memory of something I enjoyed.

A good photo shows me the way something was but isn't any more.

A good photo can make me laugh.

None of these things is significantly influenced by the technical qualities of the photo.

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Feb 11, 2024 08:28:16   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
DirtFarmer wrote:
To me, a good photo is one I would like to look at again, or maybe for a longer period of time that I normally spend glancing at photos.

A good photo is something I would like to hang on my wall if I had any space on my wall.

A good photo shows something of interest, maybe a family member that is long gone (or newly arrived).

A good photo shows something that jogs my memory of something I enjoyed.

A good photo shows me the way something was but isn't any more.

A good photo can make me laugh.

None of these things is significantly influenced by the technical qualities of the photo.
To me, a good photo is one I would like to look at... (show quote)



Relative to you of course.
My tastes may differ.

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Feb 11, 2024 09:10:24   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
Longshadow wrote:


Relative to you of course.
My tastes may differ.


We are all different, but some of us are more different (adapted from Animal Farm, Orwell, 1945)

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Feb 11, 2024 10:03:21   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
DirtFarmer wrote:
We are all different, but some of us are more different (adapted from Animal Farm, Orwell, 1945)


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Feb 11, 2024 10:03:46   #
Picture Taker Loc: Michigan Thumb
 
A good photographer. Not the equipment.

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Feb 11, 2024 10:19:08   #
Strodav Loc: Houston, Tx
 
Excellent discussion. It's the Art and Science of photography. As I became relatively competent with the Science part, I started focusing on the Art and it took me down a completely different path. On the surface, what makes a good photo is lines, shapes, form, color, texture, composition, lighting, how to set a mood and tell a story. Easy, right, but you post what you think is a good photo and you get few or no likes, or worse, harsh criticism, why?

A photo is a transaction between the photographer's work and the viewer. Viewers are a huge random variable. An image that resonates with one group may actually offend another group, yet there are some iconic images that are universally liked. For example, a lone tree on hill as the sun sets or with the moon in the background. A happy child or children playing, ... When taking a Psyc class we read a research paper studying the differences between men and women. A series of photos with a wide variety of subjects were shown to the participants who were asked to rate the photos. The only photo both men and women liked was picture of a pretty young mom holding a baby. It turns out the men liked the mom and the girls liked the baby. Did you know that in addition to red, green, and blue cones, women have cones that are sensitive to orange? So viewers don't even see the same way.

Sometimes I take snapshots to remember a place or event, but that's not the topic of this post. I came to the conclusion that I will capture images of subjects I like, that I find interesting. Do a competent job technically with the camera, and a competent job in Post. Different photographers find different things that are interesting. Some like, shapes, form and texture, but I like very colorful subjects and I love a beautiful flesh tone. I love photographing animals, especially water birds. If others like them - fine, if not, I don't care. Certainly, I don't change my photos to satisfy photographers on social media who think photography is about their cameras and glass. Cameras and glass are tools, not photography. Photographers have taken phenomenal images over the years with far less capable cameras than we have access to today. While I have a Z9, I am not at a disadvantage with my D7200 doing street photography.

If you want to become a better photographer, follow Alex Kilbee on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@ThePhotographicEye He does not talk about gear, he talks about the Art of Photography.

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Feb 11, 2024 10:22:39   #
Retired CPO Loc: Travel full time in an RV
 
paulrnzpn wrote:
As a New Zealander I am finding UHH a rather fun forum to be a member of.
We have the friendly members and we have the knowledgeable members.
And then there are the other members who are neither.
We also have members who're keen to learn from other members of UHH, whilst at the same time there are some members who appear to be on here more because they love to pick a fight.
I guess 'US of A' is a large country full of diverse people, and with a diverse range of 'photographers', and most of UHH's members are based in USA.

So!...
What is a photographer? Someone with a camera, or even someone with a phone that has a camera, or is a photographer someone who makes good photos?
And what makes a photo a good photo?
Opinions on that question will be very diverse I imagine.
As a New Zealander I am finding UHH a rather fun f... (show quote)


You could ask the same question, substituting Author or any number of other nouns. Is an author someone who writes award winning books? Does that include people who write guidebooks for using digital cameras? Or do they have to write lurid romances, or histories of the world wars? Science fiction? Autobiographies?
What is a good book?? It's an un-answerable question!
Uh Oh. I see Rodeoman beat me to it! Fine minds think alike!

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Feb 11, 2024 10:57:04   #
pithydoug Loc: Catskill Mountains, NY
 
paulrnzpn wrote:
As a New Zealander I am finding UHH a rather fun forum to be a member of.
We have the friendly members and we have the knowledgeable members.
And then there are the other members who are neither.
We also have members who're keen to learn from other members of UHH, whilst at the same time there are some members who appear to be on here more because they love to pick a fight.
I guess 'US of A' is a large country full of diverse people, and with a diverse range of 'photographers', and most of UHH's members are based in USA.

So!...
What is a photographer? Someone with a camera, or even someone with a phone that has a camera, or is a photographer someone who makes good photos?
And what makes a photo a good photo?
Opinions on that question will be very diverse I imagine.
As a New Zealander I am finding UHH a rather fun f... (show quote)


Actually unanswerable - ask 100 get 100 different answers. If you want to be competitive or to discover "better" photograpy, join an upscale camera club that offers critiques.

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Feb 11, 2024 11:07:08   #
gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast
 
Anyone who uses a camera is a photographer. Some do it to impress only themselves. Some do it to impress others. That’s the long and the short of it.

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