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Feb 10, 2024 15:08:28   #
Robertl594 Loc: Bloomfield Hills, Michigan and Nantucket
 
Rick from NY wrote:
Restating it more clearly, i use the monopod to support the weight of a pro body and say a 400/2.8. Camera shake issues don’t affect me since im usually at 1/2000th sec shutter speed.

Most photographers i know rely on sticks to handle weight, not camera shake. To control camera shake, i rely on tripod. No doubt a monopod will offer some help with camera shake at more “normal” shutter speeds, but to me it best used to support the weight.


I agree. I use mine for weight, not shake. I do get more stability however, but I don’t use it for long exposures. That’s the job for a tripod.

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Feb 10, 2024 15:22:24   #
Rick from NY Loc: Sarasota FL
 
Robertl594 wrote:
I am happy to explain. The three feet are on a detachable (quick release) ball head that you can adjust its tension on. There is a knob that you can use your foot to adjust it. The feet also have three positions on each foot. I am very impressed with this unit. I bought the carbon fiber version.

I also put a carbon fiber gimbal on top. I do a lot of birding and between the flexibility of the gimbal and the ability to tilt the entire monopod, it’s very comfortable to use.

Both top (head) and bottom (foot section) sections have quick release units so reconfiguration is instant and easy.

Was not very expensive for what it is. I think I paid <$150. They go on sale frequently. They make some nicely designed stuff.

If you have any more questions, I am happy to help.
I am happy to explain. The three feet are on a det... (show quote)


Pretty impressive flexibility. I had envisioned rigid 3 legs. I admit that ive never tried it, but constantly adjusting heads and legs seem unlikely to work for a sports shooter. I do understand the appeal of the “gimbal” like head for birds and I actually have one (Wimberley) mounted on my stick , but for sports where up and down movement of the lens plane is rather small, more times than not i lock the head and just rock the stick forward and back.


For birding, if im using the stick instead of tripod, i do use the up down motion in the head, but still don’t see three tiny feet working better than one. But would never disagree with others who have used it and love it.

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Feb 10, 2024 15:44:38   #
Robertl594 Loc: Bloomfield Hills, Michigan and Nantucket
 
Rick from NY wrote:
Pretty impressive flexibility. I had envisioned rigid 3 legs. I admit that ive never tried it, but constantly adjusting heads and legs seem unlikely to work for a sports shooter. I do understand the appeal of the “gimbal” like head for birds and I actually have one (Wimberley) mounted on my stick , but for sports where up and down movement of the lens plane is rather small, more times than not i lock the head and just rock the stick forward and back.


For birding, if im using the stick instead of tripod, i do use the up down motion in the head, but still don’t see three tiny feet working better than one. But would never disagree with others who have used it and love it.
Pretty impressive flexibility. I had envisioned ... (show quote)

I think personal style and desire comes into play here. The three feet gives a bit more safety, while it won’t hold my Z9 and 400 2.8 TC upright on its own, I can lean on it a bit and it stabilizes me and the camera. The three foot bottom piece does act as a table top tripod that is stable enough. I used it the other day for an in camera focus shift of 40 shots with my camera attached to it with my RRS ball head. Worked like a charm the quick releases on top and bottom make configuring it very quick and easy.

I know, I sound like a commercial. I’m not on Sirui payroll and I have no affiliation. I am just very impressed with their products.

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Feb 10, 2024 15:50:46   #
OldCADuser Loc: Irvine, CA
 
a6k wrote:
I have a SIRUI P-326 monopod and I'm quite happy with it. However, I'm thinking about adding a 3-feet attachment to the bottom end. Amazon has several at reasonable prices.


While I've used both tripods and monopods, personally I wouldn't waste the money and the space on adding 'feet' to the monopod. After all, unless it allowed the monopod to stand on its own, with an attached camera without tipping over, what's the purpose? Now I've seen people have these 'feet' on a cane, but in those cases, this actually does allow the cane to be free-standing, which would be convenient when setting down somewhere, but I can't see how that would be of any value with a monopod. If you need your rig to stand on its own, use a tripod.

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Feb 10, 2024 16:07:25   #
Rick from NY Loc: Sarasota FL
 
Robertl594 wrote:
I think personal style and desire comes into play here. The three feet gives a bit more safety, while it won’t hold my Z9 and 400 2.8 TC upright on its own, I can lean on it a bit and it stabilizes me and the camera. The three foot bottom piece does act as a table top tripod that is stable enough. I used it the other day for an in camera focus shift of 40 shots with my camera attached to it with my RRS ball head. Worked like a charm the quick releases on top and bottom make configuring it very quick and easy.

I know, I sound like a commercial. I’m not on Sirui payroll and I have no affiliation. I am just very impressed with their products.
I think personal style and desire comes into play ... (show quote)


Interesting discussion. At the end of the day, we use what works for us. Regretably, too many members here refuse to accept that their opinion is NOT the gospel. Like “filter/non filter” nonsense.

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Feb 10, 2024 16:38:52   #
frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.
 
Rick from NY wrote:
Restating it more clearly, i use the monopod to support the weight of a pro body and say a 400/2.8. Camera shake issues don’t affect me since im usually at 1/2000th sec shutter speed.

Most photographers i know rely on sticks to handle weight, not camera shake. To control camera shake, i rely on tripod. No doubt a monopod will offer some help with camera shake at more “normal” shutter speeds, but to me it best used to support the weight.



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Feb 10, 2024 18:24:17   #
joecichjr Loc: Chicago S. Suburbs, Illinois, USA
 
Robertl594 wrote:
I am happy to explain. The three feet are on a detachable (quick release) ball head that you can adjust its tension on. There is a knob that you can use your foot to adjust it. The feet also have three positions on each foot. I am very impressed with this unit. I bought the carbon fiber version.

I also put a carbon fiber gimbal on top. I do a lot of birding and between the flexibility of the gimbal and the ability to tilt the entire monopod, it’s very comfortable to use.

Both top (head) and bottom (foot section) sections have quick release units so reconfiguration is instant and easy.

Was not very expensive for what it is. I think I paid <$150. They go on sale frequently. They make some nicely designed stuff.

If you have any more questions, I am happy to help.
I am happy to explain. The three feet are on a det... (show quote)


A beautiful set depicting Mission Control at your place

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Feb 10, 2024 18:30:00   #
a6k Loc: Detroit & Sanibel
 
Thank you to all who tried to help. Here is an update.

1. My monopod, it turns out, does not have a common bolt thread on the point. Rather, it has, from Sirui, a proprietary kit that includes an adapter and a sturdy looking tripod that can double as a tabletop tripod. One of you showed pictures of the same thing but on a different model. So I if I want to add a 3 footed adapter I have to spend about twice as much money. The large, flat, circular foot looked interesting, too, but it would not work on my gear. That's a shame.

2. All who point out that a monopod with feet is not a tripod and should not be used that way are correct. Obvious, but true. I have a tripod - two or three, actually - but carrying them around and getting them in and out of the car and then quickly setting up is not what I want right now.

3. When shooting birds, even in good sunshine, I use F8 for DOF and, besides, that is all my reflex lens offers. For the obvious reasons, I use at least 1/000 shutter speed. That means that I'm at ISO 200 already. I am thus already in the corner of the envelope. I'm simply not as steady as I was when young. I use trees, railing, car windows, etc. when available. But the monopod could offer another method. Another stop of shutter speed would help but can introduce noise in the image. I've experimented with this and found that sharpness is reduced from 1/000 to 1/2000 for that reason.

4. My 500 mm reflex lens offers AF and is very sharp. But it doesn't have any image stabilization of its own. My camera, a Sony 𝜶6500 has in-body stabilization but that's much less effective than when the lens also has it. When I rented a Tamron 150-500 the net effect was greater stability. But I haven't made up my mind to spend $1400 quite yet.

4. When shooting with a monopod some axes of motion (such as vertical) are stopped or steadied but some aren't. For example, yaw (left-right motion) is not affected. With a foot such as a little tripod device and a friction-set ball, more of the possible motions are either eliminated or slowed. Pitch is another that can be better. Some of you agree and some of you don't. I lean toward increased resistance to camera motion. The physics and geometry are easy. Real life is sometimes more complicated. At an equivalent of 750 mm, even the tiniest motions are detrimental to sharpness.

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Feb 10, 2024 19:19:51   #
Robertl594 Loc: Bloomfield Hills, Michigan and Nantucket
 
joecichjr wrote:
A beautiful set depicting Mission Control at your place

Haha! Thank you. You should see some of my other stuff! I do love my gear.

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Feb 10, 2024 19:26:22   #
Robertl594 Loc: Bloomfield Hills, Michigan and Nantucket
 
a6k wrote:
Thank you to all who tried to help. Here is an update.

1. My monopod, it turns out, does not have a common bolt thread on the point. Rather, it has, from Sirui, a proprietary kit that includes an adapter and a sturdy looking tripod that can double as a tabletop tripod. One of you showed pictures of the same thing but on a different model. So I if I want to add a 3 footed adapter I have to spend about twice as much money. The large, flat, circular foot looked interesting, too, but it would not work on my gear. That's a shame.

2. All who point out that a monopod with feet is not a tripod and should not be used that way are correct. Obvious, but true. I have a tripod - two or three, actually - but carrying them around and getting them in and out of the car and then quickly setting up is not what I want right now.

3. When shooting birds, even in good sunshine, I use F8 for DOF and, besides, that is all my reflex lens offers. For the obvious reasons, I use at least 1/000 shutter speed. That means that I'm at ISO 200 already. I am thus already in the corner of the envelope. I'm simply not as steady as I was when young. I use trees, railing, car windows, etc. when available. But the monopod could offer another method. Another stop of shutter speed would help but can introduce noise in the image. I've experimented with this and found that sharpness is reduced from 1/000 to 1/2000 for that reason.

4. My 500 mm reflex lens offers AF and is very sharp. But it doesn't have any image stabilization of its own. My camera, a Sony 𝜶6500 has in-body stabilization but that's much less effective than when the lens also has it. When I rented a Tamron 150-500 the net effect was greater stability. But I haven't made up my mind to spend $1400 quite yet.

4. When shooting with a monopod some axes of motion (such as vertical) are stopped or steadied but some aren't. For example, yaw (left-right motion) is not affected. With a foot such as a little tripod device and a friction-set ball, more of the possible motions are either eliminated or slowed. Pitch is another that can be better. Some of you agree and some of you don't. I lean toward increased resistance to camera motion. The physics and geometry are easy. Real life is sometimes more complicated. At an equivalent of 750 mm, even the tiniest motions are detrimental to sharpness.
Thank you to all who tried to help. Here is an upd... (show quote)


It might be cheaper to buy the monopod that comes with the feet and the quick release head. The aluminum version is $89. The carbon fiber one is $179.

https://store.sirui.com/collections/am-compact-series-monopods/products/sirui-am-404fl-3-in-1-with-qr-system-monopod

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Feb 10, 2024 19:28:02   #
paulrnzpn Loc: New Zealand
 
Longshadow wrote:
Well, the only thing I can think of against the little feet thingy would be on sloped/uneven ground.
To get/keep the monopod vertical, all the feet would not be on the ground at the same time.
Seems a monopod foot would would just be easier to work with in that case.
And easier to tote or store.

It will be interesting to see why people like them. I wouldn't put a set of feet on my monopod.


I was thinking that exact same thing.
To me, it makes no sense to have more than one foot on a monopod.
When I want to use a monopod, I use my monopod. And when I need to use my tripod, that's what I use.

What do you call a monopod that has three feet anyway? A tripod?

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Feb 10, 2024 19:35:58   #
paulrnzpn Loc: New Zealand
 
User ID wrote:
I agree. A mini tripod at the tip of a monopod is a solution seeking a problem.

The OP asks us not to suggest a tripod, so I wont do that. Instead I would recommend stamp collecting.


Excellent suggestion.

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Feb 10, 2024 19:46:06   #
paulrnzpn Loc: New Zealand
 
Rick from NY wrote:
I must disagree, at least as it concerns action photography. Sure a monopod may indeed reduce camera shake, but I (and I suspect most) action photographers use a monopod because hand holding a heavy pro body and long tele lens for long periods of time is too tiring for all of us. I consider my monopod as a tool to allow me to physically hold heavy gear. When shooting moving subjects, most action shooters are at high shutter speeds so camera shake isn’t much of a problem.


I agree 100%, and that is exactly what I use my monopod for.

My Tamron 150-60mm is a big heavy beast, so unless I am shooting with it from down low on the ground (which I do do) then I prop my gear onto my monopod (monopod with 'one' leg, plus my two legs) to take action shots of moving cars, sports and wildlife, etc.
For anything else, and when I need stability (such as for long exposures, portraits, and macro), then I use my tripod.

To want three legs on a monopod simply makes no sense at all to me.

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Feb 10, 2024 20:02:23   #
a6k Loc: Detroit & Sanibel
 
Robertl594 wrote:
It might be cheaper to buy the monopod that comes with the feet and the quick release head. The aluminum version is $89. The carbon fiber one is $179.

https://store.sirui.com/collections/am-compact-series-monopods/products/sirui-am-404fl-3-in-1-with-qr-system-monopod


I already have the carbon fiber monopod so the economics favor the attachment. But thanks for the suggestion.

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Feb 10, 2024 20:08:59   #
a6k Loc: Detroit & Sanibel
 
Those who say it makes no sense to them to add feet to a monopod will not be persuaded. I am OK with that.

However, the freedom of motion with a monopod that has a friction-adjustable ball joint at the bottom and then three feet beats a tripod's. That should be obvious.

Just to be clear, I'm not talking about the slimmer dimensions or the lower weight. I'm talking about being able to aid the camera while still having some support and some steadying forces.

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