dennis2146 wrote:
All well and good but FIRST there must be someone to actually give Trump his Due Process in order to find him to be an insurrectionist. For my money, as I have explained and posted, that someone is ONLY Congress as I pointed out. A State Attorney General is not at liberty to simply say they feel Trump is an insurrectionist without any trial, judge or jury, with nothing but that person deciding on their own for the entire state.
Show us where Trump has had his Due Process where a judge or anybody has questioned him, spoken with witnesses, SOMETHING where he has been found guilty by ANYBODY other than simply a group of Left Wingers who hate Trump. Surely our Constitution would require more than that bullshit kangaroo court to make a decision that a person can be barred from running for the office of President. Grow up and face facts. Nobody has given Trump any Due Process have they? This is nothing more than a very small group of people with their panties in a wad doing their best to CONTROL the election process but without any official standing.
I am a voter. I and Millions of other Conservative voters will definitely cast a vote for President Trump as opposed to the dumb ass POS Biden for the office of POTUS. Most likely Millions of voters in Colorado will also vote for President Trump no matter what the LEFT WING AG says or does. That person is overstepping their bounds and have no right to ban Trump from being elected by any means just because you think he was involved in Insurrection.
Dennis
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https://www.coloradopolitics.com/courts/dissenting-justices-in-trump-case-raise-due-process-concerns-but-offer-slim-details/article_74eb0a8a-a052-11ee-8115-bb72bbc9fe5f.htmlhttps://constitutioncenter.org/the-constitution/articles/amendment-xiv/clauses/701Listen to SCOTUS discussion from yesterday to see how they addressed due process. When you have that knowledge then we can discuss on the same level of information.
From your angry tone, it appears you believe SCOTUS will uphold CO ruling. That's not the consensus of most.
dennis2146 wrote:
As USUAL and ALWAYS you miss the fine points of the BS you are peddling. IF Trump's name is not on the ballot for even the primaries in a state that would present a handicap to him being elected. Most voters are not going to write in his name. And why should they? Give us one good reason Trump's name should not be on the ballot, EVERY ballot?
Tell us why Trump should have the onus on him. He has been proven guilty of nothing and still has every right the rest of us have. The Left has no right to deprive him of anything UNTIL he is proven guilty in a court of law and sentenced. Other than that happening nobody can deprive him of any rights. Surely you and your sisters on the Left are aware of that but in your level of corruption try to get away with it.
Dennis
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Colorado has also stated that they will refuse write ins for Trump.
DennyT wrote:
What does conviction. Have to do with the matter?
Everyone is focused on the word “ insurrection. But the last clause says”…… given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. ””
Referring to the constitution . Trump by doing nothing for hours to uphold the constitution in accordance with the oath he took violated that.
Even in his follow up speech yesterday he bragged about what he said before and and the end but omitted that he did nothing. “ during” .
In any case this is not about holding office is about running in a “ primary “ which is purely a state issue. Heck some states don’t even have primaries. The Republican Party doesn’t even need a primary to nominate a person. In fact I don’t believe there were any primaries until the early party of the 20th century.
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The folks who participated in the 1/6 riots are not enemies of the United States nor of the constitution, they wrongly thought that the election was stolen and felt that they were actually standing for constitutional governance no matter that they were misguided.
Geez Denny, what are you going to do if Trump wins reelection, hope that you don't go any further over the deep end than you already have.
DennyT
Loc: Central Missouri woods
Racmanaz wrote:
Where in the constitution does it say anything about the president being disqualified under the 14th amendment section 3? Is it true that the US Constitution takes precedent over a state constitution? I don’t know I’m not certain.
Well at least you know the difference between an “amendment “ and and @ article “. Apparently some don’t.
To answer your question I believe the U.S. constitution does if state law violate the U.S. Constitution which is the “supreme law of land.
But no where in the the US constitution is any authority over state primaries is there ? Even in general election the federal government actions are limited to time and place and nothing else.
And 10 amendment is pretty clear isn’t it
“” The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the peop
“”
Blurryeyed wrote:
The folks who participated in the 1/6 riots are not enemies of the United States nor of the constitution, they wrongly thought that the election was stolen and felt that they were actually standing for constitutional governance no matter that they were misguided.
Geez Denny, what are you going to do if Trump wins reelection, hope that you don't go any further over the deep end than you already have.
"Misguided"? Not exactly.
DennyT
Loc: Central Missouri woods
Blurryeyed wrote:
The folks who participated in the 1/6 riots are not enemies of the United States nor of the constitution, they wrongly thought that the election was stolen and felt that they were actually standing for constitutional governance no matter that they were misguided.
Geez Denny, what are you going to do if Trump wins reelection, hope that you don't go any further over the deep end than you already have.
Don’t be dumb. My issue is that it is a state by state decision in the primaries .
DennyT
Loc: Central Missouri woods
Truth Seeker wrote:
What is then?
Whether Colorado can remove trump from the ballot.
Have we all forgotten that Presidential Primaries are different from state and local ones. The outcome of the Presidential primary decides a party candidate and not a state candidate. Barring all write in votes against any candidate is surely unconstitutional as it would be denial of constitutional rights. I trust the SCOTUS will hand down the proper ruling.
DennyT wrote:
Well at least you know the difference between an “amendment “ and and @ article “. Apparently some don’t.
To answer your question I believe the U.S. constitution does if state law violate the U.S. Constitution which is the “supreme law of land.
But no where in the the US constitution is any authority over state primaries is there ? Even in general election the federal government actions are limited to time and place and nothing else.
And 10 amendment is pretty clear isn’t it
“” The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the peop
“”
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States can legislate how they hold their primaries and set rules surrounding their primaries but they can't decide who can run for office in their primaries. Colorado is going to get bitch slapped by the SCOTUS, then what will you have to say Denny?
DennyT wrote:
Don’t be dumb. My issue is that it is a state by state decision in the primaries .
The state has no Constitutional right to tell it's citizens whom to vote for or against, or to chose to arbitrarily remove some one from the ballot. Colorado is not North Korea, or is it?
DennyT
Loc: Central Missouri woods
letmedance wrote:
The state has no Constitutional right to tell it's citizens whom to vote for or against, or to chose to arbitrarily remove some one from the ballot. Colorado is not North Korea, or is it?
I don’t know state law’s eligibility do you.
Blurryeyed wrote:
States can legislate how they hold their primaries and set rules surrounding their primaries but they can't decide who can run for office in their primaries. Colorado is going to get bitch slapped by the SCOTUS, then what will you have to say Denny?
The idea of SCOTUS bitch slapping anyone is very unpatriotic and lacks democratic rules of decorum.
Triple G wrote:
The idea of SCOTUS bitch slapping anyone is very unpatriotic and lacks democratic rules of decorum.
So, you are taking my statement literally, how about an 8-1 or a 9-0 decision, you may not consider it a bitch slap but it sure will send a message to the Colorado Supreme Court as well as to the rest of the nation.
Not angry at all but simply tired of trying to explain over and over to people who seem to have no understanding even though the Constitution is quite clear.
Let’s just wait and see.
Dennis
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